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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,114
    A Jewish friend has stood down his move to Switzerland. He is now in the process of getting "totally wasted".
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    ByronicByronic Posts: 3,578
    WE HAVE NO RESULTS YET
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,191

    Layla is going to make a great leader.

    I don’t think even she is guaranteed to hang on in this situation, although Oxford is of course very Remainy.
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    EPGEPG Posts: 6,006
    Andy_JS said:

    There must have been a last minute swing to the SNP. Not sure why.

    Two useless rival campaigns on the non-Tory side?
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    Kate Hoey vindicated.
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    glwglw Posts: 9,549
    HaroldO said:

    I'm watching Mark Francois and thinking....I can be an MP if he can.

    If he can be an MP I should be the bloody PM.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    If blythe valley is close...Labour are buggered, surely?

    Utterly fucked.

    Hope the 'Oh Jeremy Corbyn' crowd are very proud of themselves tonight.

    Who will comfort the Momentum kids crying tonight?
    My son reports in Colchester they still expect a Labour minority government - the polls are wrong innit!!!
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    BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 7,989
    IanB2 said:

    I know the BBC seat projections are the only data we have to play with, but I think people are taking their predictions too seriously. They only sample 144 constituencies and only one polling station in each constituency.

    The rest is guesswork.

    One of the constituencies is Richmond Park and the single polling station sampled is in Barnes in the ex-local authority estate (RA). It used to be full of LibDems but it is also full of the left behind leavers may of whom have deserted the LDs. The rest of Barnes are wealthy remainers who have embraced the LibDems but weren't in the sample.
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    speedy2speedy2 Posts: 981

    SNP saying NE Fife far from certain.

    ie. Exit Poll *IS* pants.

    In Scotland there is a credible chance that indeed it is.
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    'Life comes at you reasonably quickly' or something.
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    ArtistArtist Posts: 1,882
    Seems like no one other than Blyth Valley are counting
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,114

    Layla is going to make a great leader.

    Hmm. Very unsure of that.

    I predict she is going to have the same issues as Jo Swinson - but more so. Women won't warm to her.
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    I think Labour will just hold Blyth Valley.
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    I can fully believe the exit poll for the SNP in Scotland. They were right in 2015 and 2017.

    I just hope the Tories retain B,R&S or I’m going to the poor house.
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    AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900

    Presumably one minor point here is that the BXP vote was vapourised?

    Same as UKIP last election. Ended up <2%
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    MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 44,376
    nunu2 said:

    Ave_it said:

    Blyth Valley recount shows Exit poll bang on

    Who ordered the recount?
    People who were going WTAF?
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    edited December 2019
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,274
    edited December 2019
    nunu2 said:

    Ave_it said:

    Blyth Valley recount shows Exit poll bang on

    Who ordered the recount?
    The ERO, on the request of the agent for the candidate who is probably somewhere less than a thousand or so behind.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    Speculation that the (ahem) “creative” Lib Dem bar charts and... errr... supporting letters from... errr election expert... may have damaged them.

    I would have to say good - I gave my Lib Dem candidate here some stick over the misleading crap they pulled
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    BUNDLE! :lol:
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,859
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Norfolk North 91% chance LD hold. Allegedly.

    I was mocked last week for forecasting NN as a LD hold :)
    If they're holding practically everything south of the border *AND* the exit poll is right, then that implies very few gains. Maybe it will just be Richmond Park, St Albans, Sheffield Hallam and... Finchley?! Apparently Luciana has a 6/10 chance of getting home. There's also a 6/10 chance of the Tories losing CoLaW - to Labour. There's some weird stuff going on at individual constituency level in this projection!
    I think there will be more than 13 LDs tommorow.
    A few million surely.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,599
    Andrew said:

    Someone put a gag in Mark Francois.

    Thank christ he has no influence now. Watch as Johnson throws the ERG under the bus immediately and tacks towards the centre.

    I don't see that happening. BoZo purged his cabinet, deselected the moderates as his first acts, before trashing the constitution. He will not tack centrally.
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    FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195

    BUNDLE! :lol:

    ??
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    I can fully believe the exit poll for the SNP in Scotland. They were right in 2015 and 2017.

    I just hope the Tories retain B,R&S or I’m going to the poor house.

    It is SO unlikely that they will lose, I'm in in the east of the constituency which is more SNP leaning, and it is FULL of Tories.
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    nichomarnichomar Posts: 7,483
    The exit poll is only wrong at the edges we’re talking + or - ten seats for each party, irrelevant for lab con but maybe interesting for lib dems
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    Owen Jones still doesn't get it.
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    Layla is going to make a great leader.

    Hmm. Very unsure of that.

    I predict she is going to have the same issues as Jo Swinson - but more so. Women won't warm to her.
    More charisma I think.
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    Alistair said:

    Ultra-marginal North East Fife (SNP Maj 2) is predicted to be “one of the safest seats in Scotland “ (BBC)

    I’m beginning to think that this Exit Poll is pants.

    That's bollocks. On the BBC website it is too close to call.
    That was a direct quote from a BBC journalist. Don’t shoot the messenger.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,191
    Justine Greening dismissing the idea that this was a Brexit election. She’s suggesting Johnson had a better domestic agenda.
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    ydoethur said:

    Layla is going to make a great leader.

    I don’t think even she is guaranteed to hang on in this situation, although Oxford is of course very Remainy.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-47686844

    I think this will hang over her, fairly or not, because we know it would not have been accepted for a man to have physically assaulted his partner and been arrested for it, and "if you're all about equality, why doesn't that apply to women too" is the kind of argument that has an attractive moral clarity to it to many people, even if it doesn't acknowledge nuances such as the asymmetry in male/female domestic violence.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,189

    I can fully believe the exit poll for the SNP in Scotland. They were right in 2015 and 2017.

    I just hope the Tories retain B,R&S or I’m going to the poor house.

    But at least Jezza won't be stealing your actual house! :smiley:
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    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    EPG said:

    Ultra-marginal North East Fife (SNP Maj 2) is predicted to be “one of the safest seats in Scotland “ (BBC)

    I’m beginning to think that this Exit Poll is pants.

    It would make sense if 2017's tactical-to-LD votes have evaporated.
    "Bollocks to Brexit" has likely resulted in the LDs losing Conservative tactical voters.

    Perhaps more SLDs and SLAB voters are less keen on a Union with Tory English Nationalists, than a social democrat inclined Independent Scotland in the EU. Perhaps Unionism doesn't trump everything.

    Certainly If I were a Scot, I would back Yes.
    It s people posting shit like this that makes a National socialist Scotland more likely
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    Nail...head...hit...on...
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,960
    ydoethur said:

    Layla is going to make a great leader.

    I don’t think even she is guaranteed to hang on in this situation, although Oxford is of course very Remainy.
    She's 99+% chance of holding on according to the Beeb exit poll. So I reckon she's probably safe.
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,599

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Norfolk North 91% chance LD hold. Allegedly.

    I was mocked last week for forecasting NN as a LD hold :)
    If they're holding practically everything south of the border *AND* the exit poll is right, then that implies very few gains. Maybe it will just be Richmond Park, St Albans, Sheffield Hallam and... Finchley?! Apparently Luciana has a 6/10 chance of getting home. There's also a 6/10 chance of the Tories losing CoLaW - to Labour. There's some weird stuff going on at individual constituency level in this projection!
    I think there will be more than 13 LDs tommorow.
    A few million surely.
    LDs will net gain seats, Lab net lose them.

    This is either the end of Corbynism or the end of the Labour Party.
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    If that's accurate, it's not that big a majority. Around 8% I reckon? That might give the tories a chance to retain some of their safer Scottish seats (like Dumfires & Galloway, West Aberdeenshire or Moray).
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,815
    Wonder what's happening in Sunderland?
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    El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 3,870
    rcs1000 said:

    Layla is going to make a great leader.

    You mean Luciana.
    I don’t, but no-one for the next five years is ever going to doubt your predictions!
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,588
    First result about to come through from Newcastle Central.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,191
    NUTC declares first.
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    Alistair said:

    Oof, SNP seat line bet is now down to 52.5

    Hope you all got on while you had the chance.

    Thanks for the heads up - it was a real goody.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,189

    Nail...head...hit...on...
    But Tory Islamaphobia or something.

    Actually, I don't think it is AS. It's Brexit. These voters believed Labour in 2017. They didn't make the same mistake in 2019.
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    nunu2nunu2 Posts: 1,453
    IanB2 said:

    nunu2 said:

    Ave_it said:

    Blyth Valley recount shows Exit poll bang on

    Who ordered the recount?
    The ERO, on the request of the agent for the candidate who is probably somewhere less than a thousand or so behind.
    I mean which party?
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    ParistondaParistonda Posts: 1,819
    Owen Jones on ITV coverage right now, babbling and clearly doesn't know what to say. They are already starting the blame game saying it's not Corbyn's fault.
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    Some classic bullshit artists have just been found out on ITV.
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    Newcastle Central!
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    speedy2 said:

    Ultra-marginal North East Fife (SNP Maj 2) is predicted to be “one of the safest seats in Scotland “ (BBC)

    I’m beginning to think that this Exit Poll is pants.

    In Scotland indeed I have the same doubts.
    The Exit Poll was a bit off last time in Scotland.
    No it wasn’t. It was out by one! Exit Poll had 34 SNP Seats. We won 35, including NE Fife by 2 votes!
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    AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 19,979
    I hate to break it to the Good Lord but there’s one in less than five years!
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    Time_to_LeaveTime_to_Leave Posts: 2,547
    edited December 2019
    So it the money in unlikely Labour London gains?
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,588
    edited December 2019
    Newcastle Central:

    Lab 21,568 (57.6%)
    Con 9,290 (24.8%)
    LD 2,709 (7.2%)
    BRX 2,542 (6.8%)
    Grn 1,365 (3.6%)
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Swing quite low Newcastle C - exit poll might be out!
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,287
    Newcastle Upon Central declaring. 21K Lab - Con 9K.
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    Alistair said:

    Oof, SNP seat line bet is now down to 52.5

    Hope you all got on while you had the chance.

    Thanks for the heads up - it was a real goody.
    I couldn’t get on fast enough.

    Stuck on trains and tube 😡
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,114
    Newcastle Central:

    2,709 LD
    2,542 Brexit
    21,568 Labour
    9,290 Conservative
    1,365 Greens
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,744

    ydoethur said:

    Layla is going to make a great leader.

    I don’t think even she is guaranteed to hang on in this situation, although Oxford is of course very Remainy.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-47686844

    I think this will hang over her, fairly or not, because we know it would not have been accepted for a man to have physically assaulted his partner and been arrested for it, and "if you're all about equality, why doesn't that apply to women too" is the kind of argument that has an attractive moral clarity to it to many people, even if it doesn't acknowledge nuances such as the asymmetry in male/female domestic violence.
    This isn't the age of equality, it's the age of fairness. Trump grasped this, and so does Boris. She would have easily rode it out.
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    WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 8,503
    edited December 2019
    dr_spyn said:

    Newcastle Upon Central declaring. 21K Lab - Con 9K.

    Hmm.

    Results also seem a bit slower to come in.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,114
    65% turnout
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    Hoping that's the last time I ever see Mark francois on telly again....
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    paulyork64paulyork64 Posts: 2,461
    bet365 10/11 SNP gain East Dunbartonshire. not sure how LibDem get only 13 and SNP get 55 without them winning this one.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,274
    Ave_it said:

    Swing quite low Newcastle C - exit poll might be out!

    A very studenty constituency
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    Lab hold Newkie central by 12K
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    Labour have an MP! stop the counts!
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,191
    Labour hold the first declared seat. Down about 10% if my maths is right.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,859
    3.5% swing Newcastle Central
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    speedy2speedy2 Posts: 981
    Small swing in the first result.
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    StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146
    edited December 2019
    LAB Hold With 65%: better than predicted! Newcastle C
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    glwglw Posts: 9,549
    GIN1138 said:

    Can't believe we've not had a result yet! :open_mouth:

    Presumably there's a lot of "this can't be right" going on.
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    That doesn't look like quite I was expecting, if the exit poll is completely right.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,260
    That's not a spectacular result for the Tories.
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    HaroldOHaroldO Posts: 1,185

    Hoping that's the last time I ever see Mark francois on telly again....

    Very much agree.
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    Andy_JS said:
    I did point out that the Welsh valleys offered the Brexit party its best chance of a seat. I’d like to hear about some of the others in the region.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Andy_JS said:

    There must have been a last minute swing to the SNP. Not sure why.

    Differential turnout.

    The final Survation hinted at it. OAP and Conservative certainty to vote down.

    2017 was SCons being more certain to vote, SNP voters being lazy.

    The 2016 holyrood election was really clear, increased Constituency turnout mapped to increased Con vote very linearly.

    This time is the reverse.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,960

    bet365 10/11 SNP gain East Dunbartonshire. not sure how LibDem get only 13 and SNP get 55 without them winning this one.

    The BBC forecasts the LDs lose all four of their Scottish seats, but make up for it by winning seats in English Remainia.
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    MyBurningEarsMyBurningEars Posts: 3,651
    edited December 2019
    Floater said:

    BUNDLE! :lol:

    ??

    https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/8226814.mums-plea-to-stop-playground-bundling-after-girl-injured/

    Given that I "got" Sunil's reference immediately, I wondered if this was a battlecry and subsequent activity common in playgrounds and school corridors across the land, or just geographically and temporally limited to grammar schools of a certain locality and era. I'm sort of glad to learn it's more widespread and ongoing, though bone surgeons across the land will almost certainly disagree with me...
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,588
    Houghton:

    Lab 16,210
    Con 13,095
    BRX 6,165
    LD 2,319
    Grn 1,125
    UKIP 897

    Lab maj 3,115
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    Big swing in Sunderland to Tories!
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    LOL Bridget Phillipson hair goes frizzy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,960
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,191
    edited December 2019
    Ouch for UKIP - joke figure.

    Sunderland Central stays Labour, but a savage cut in the majority.

    Edit - sorry, that was Houghton.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,114
    Sunderland

    Green 1,125
    LD 2,319
    UKIP 897
    Cons 13,095
    Labour 16,210
    Brexit 6,175
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    ByronicByronic Posts: 3,578
    Fucking Farage!!
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    Leave vote split in Sunderland.
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    AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    DavidL said:

    That's not a spectacular result for the Tories.

    Marginally remain area.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,114
    Sunderland: In line with exit poll....
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    Lab hold Houghton and Sunderland S by 3,115. Over 6,000 for BXP.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,859
    7.5% swing Sunderland
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    Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,411
    Don't forget Newcastle C is quite remain
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,923
    3000 off in Houghton lol
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    AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    19% L>C swing in H & S south.
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    EPGEPG Posts: 6,006

    King Bongo, that's a useful comment, though, as it suggests that this may be why the EU didn't take the referendum all that seriously beforehand and offered Cameron sod all in his renegotiation (which ended up harming rather than helping him).

    It's simpler than that, mere self-interest: The EU did not want to open the floodgates to an a la carte union. Lose something the UK doesn't like, and the others take away something the UK likes, and the cycle goes on. People who actually work in the institutions think the UK is foolish to leave, but not a blow to the project, and a price worth paying.
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    ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 4,971
    Brexit Party save Labour in Houghton.
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    WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 8,503
    edited December 2019
    Looking at these first ones, you'd have to think the exit poll may at least have exaggerated the Tories a bit, and possibly slightly more than that. A strong majority looks very likely, though.
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    El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 3,870
    edited December 2019
    ydoethur said:

    Layla is going to make a great leader.

    I don’t think even she is guaranteed to hang on in this situation, although Oxford is of course very Remainy.
    She will. 100% guaranteed.

    The Conservative candidate was beyond terrible. They passed up a superb county councillor who would have given Layla a good run.

    I will eat the hat of any Liberal Democrat of your choice if Layla loses.
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    Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Newcastle Central comfortable Lab hold
    Majority slashed in Sunderland South
    Blyth Valley goes Con!
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