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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,105
    Damn. I'll be back with an FPT.....
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    CookieCookie Posts: 11,423
    Have we settled on a pronunciation yet? Butty-geeg? With two hard g sounds (as in 'great'?
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,105
    FPT....

    That Con 49%, Labour 30% poll earlier....

    When were the seats last contested that come up in May? I'd assumed that local elections in May will be thirds from those elected in May 2017? Which was Con 38%, Labour 27% LibDems 18%

    But I can't see those Metropolitan thirds for 2017. Did thirds only kick in later?

    (2018 thirds were when the result was 35% Labour, 35% Cons,16% Libem.

    2019 thirds were 28% Labour, 28% Cons, 19% Libdem.)
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    edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,150
    Cookie said:

    Have we settled on a pronunciation yet? Butty-geeg? With two hard g sounds (as in 'great'?

    Boot edge
    Boot edge
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    rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787
    edited February 2020
    Cookie said:

    Have we settled on a pronunciation yet? Butty-geeg? With two hard g sounds (as in 'great'?

    "Buh-ti-gee-egg"
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    NorthernPowerhouseNorthernPowerhouse Posts: 557
    edited February 2020
    MarqueeMark said:

    FPT....

    That Con 49%, Labour 30% poll earlier....

    When were the seats last contested that come up in May? I'd assumed that local elections in May will be thirds from those elected in May 2017? Which was Con 38%, Labour 27% LibDems 18%

    But I can't see those Metropolitan thirds for 2017. Did thirds only kick in later?

    (2018 thirds were when the result was 35% Labour, 35% Cons,16% Libem.

    2019 thirds were 28% Labour, 28% Cons, 19% Libdem.)

    Not all councils elect in thirds. 2017 was county elections, which are single member divisions. These will be seats last up in 2016.
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    StockyStocky Posts: 9,718
    Cookie said:

    Have we settled on a pronunciation yet? Butty-geeg? With two hard g sounds (as in 'great'?

    I think it`s Butty-cheek
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    TheGreenMachineTheGreenMachine Posts: 1,043
    Anyone watching the snooker?
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    Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Stocky said:

    Cookie said:

    Have we settled on a pronunciation yet? Butty-geeg? With two hard g sounds (as in 'great'?

    I think it`s Butty-cheek
    it's -- Boot edge edge
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,576
    Is Betfair determining the Iowa caucus winner based on votes or delegates?
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,105
    Stocky said:

    Cookie said:

    Have we settled on a pronunciation yet? Butty-geeg? With two hard g sounds (as in 'great'?

    I think it`s Butty-cheek
    To be Frank.... Sheikh Your Booty-gig.

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    IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Tim_B said:

    Stocky said:

    Cookie said:

    Have we settled on a pronunciation yet? Butty-geeg? With two hard g sounds (as in 'great'?

    I think it`s Butty-cheek
    it's -- Boot edge edge
    Sort of, but that doesn't convey that the first edge is unstressed. Boot-uh-jedge.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    I have seen Labour Party investigations into antisemitism concluded faster than this Iowa shit show.
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    TGOHF666TGOHF666 Posts: 2,052
    https://twitter.com/chrismusson/status/1225193146881052673?s=21
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    GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,079
    TGOHF666 said:

    https://twitter.com/chrismusson/status/1225193146881052673?s=21

    What is wrong with these people?
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    MarqueeMark said:

    FPT....

    That Con 49%, Labour 30% poll earlier....

    When were the seats last contested that come up in May? I'd assumed that local elections in May will be thirds from those elected in May 2017? Which was Con 38%, Labour 27% LibDems 18%

    But I can't see those Metropolitan thirds for 2017. Did thirds only kick in later?

    (2018 thirds were when the result was 35% Labour, 35% Cons,16% Libem.

    2019 thirds were 28% Labour, 28% Cons, 19% Libdem.)

    If I may, I assume May 2017 may be the relevant date too, which was peak May bubble before May crashed in June.
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    TGOHF666TGOHF666 Posts: 2,052
    Gallowgate said:

    TGOHF666 said:

    https://twitter.com/chrismusson/status/1225193146881052673?s=21

    What is wrong with these people?
    Read the twitter thread - total wrong un..
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    edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,150
    edited February 2020
    I wasn't that impressed by Buttigieg who didn't seem to have a lot of accomplishments but the Bernie people in my twitter feed have convinced me he's a man to be reckoned with. Not only can he bring off an immense conspiracy, I like the stylish way he hid it in plain sight by calling his election-rigging company Shadow.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edmundintokyo said:

    I wasn't that impressed by Buttigieg who didn't seem to have a lot of accomplishments but the Bernie people in my twitter feed have convinced me he's a man to be reckoned with. Not only can he bring off an immense conspiracy, I like the stylish way he hid it in plain sight by calling his election-rigging company Shadow.

    The Bernie mob do seem to have gone completely nutso over this conspiracy theory.
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    BluestBlueBluestBlue Posts: 4,556
    When Mayor Pete is 97% likely to win Iowa, it can only be...

    ... the Butti-Call! :wink:
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    TGOHF666TGOHF666 Posts: 2,052
    Salmond protege ?

    https://twitter.com/chrismusson/status/1225195776835493888?s=21
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,105
    TGOHF666 said:

    https://twitter.com/chrismusson/status/1225193146881052673?s=21

    Answer: No, they are not between us.....
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    TheGreenMachineTheGreenMachine Posts: 1,043
    Welcome to Britain, where all the crime comes from the top.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    This surely isn't a sustainable for the whole area...

    New Silicon Valley extreme: The 2:30 a.m. tech bus from Salida

    https://www.protocol.com/silicon-valley-tech-shuttles
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    TGOHF666TGOHF666 Posts: 2,052
    TheGreenMachine said:

    Welcome to Britain, where all the crime comes from the top.

    SNPae ?
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    CookieCookie Posts: 11,423
    Tim_B said:

    Stocky said:

    Cookie said:

    Have we settled on a pronunciation yet? Butty-geeg? With two hard g sounds (as in 'great'?

    I think it`s Butty-cheek
    it's -- Boot edge edge
    Huh - say what you like about Trump: his name might be a source of great hilarity to the under 7s, but at least you can pronounce it.
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    TGOHF666TGOHF666 Posts: 2,052
    Budget day in Holyrood tomorrow...
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    rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787
    Correction, if CBS is reliable it's "Booty-jedge"
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Kirk Douglas has died.
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    NorthernPowerhouseNorthernPowerhouse Posts: 557
    Philip_Thompson said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    FPT....

    That Con 49%, Labour 30% poll earlier....

    When were the seats last contested that come up in May? I'd assumed that local elections in May will be thirds from those elected in May 2017? Which was Con 38%, Labour 27% LibDems 18%

    But I can't see those Metropolitan thirds for 2017. Did thirds only kick in later?

    (2018 thirds were when the result was 35% Labour, 35% Cons,16% Libem.

    2019 thirds were 28% Labour, 28% Cons, 19% Libdem.)

    If I may, I assume May 2017 may be the relevant date too, which was peak May bubble before May crashed in June.
    Yes... peak may, the GE was called while the local elections were taking place. When it seemed a 200 seat majority might even happen.
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    EPGEPG Posts: 6,006
    edited February 2020
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    This surely isn't a sustainable for the whole area...

    New Silicon Valley extreme: The 2:30 a.m. tech bus from Salida

    https://www.protocol.com/silicon-valley-tech-shuttles

    A 1h30 commute? Not unheard of in the USA, rich or poor. As the article notes, local housing costs and wage are half what you get by bussing it in to that early shift.

    It is notable that the people who have taken this option, portrayed as victims of Bay Area NIMBY, themselves believe too much housing is now being built in their new home towns, to serve other people who have had the same ideas that they had.
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    NorthernPowerhouseNorthernPowerhouse Posts: 557
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Kirk Douglas has died.

    “I’m Spartacus”
    ;(
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    EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    I have seen Labour Party investigations into antisemitism concluded faster than this Iowa shit show.

    Just wait till California. Oh, and Florida.

    I wonder how movable the convention is? Would be deeply embarrassing if not all the delegates have actually been agreed upon in time.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,269
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Kirk Douglas has died.

    I am SeanT Spartacus!
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,814
    Can someone explain how the hell this absolute fruitcake was Speaker of HoC for a decade?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POqBMqi1k_E
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,576
    Is there any point in putting a small bet on Bernie at 20/1?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited February 2020
    GIN1138 said:

    Can someone explain how the hell this absolute fruitcake was Speaker of HoC for a decade?

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=POqBMqi1k_E

    What an absolute beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.....Lets hope the new speaker continues to be more Betty than Bell-End.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited February 2020
    Andy_JS said:

    Is there any point in putting a small bet on Bernie at 20/1?

    Haven't you heard the DNC and the deep state establishment are fixing the primaries to ensure he won't be on the ticket. At least that's what twitter / some of the more whacky lefty YouTubers are saying.
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    TheGreenMachineTheGreenMachine Posts: 1,043


    One of the greatest, you'll be sadly missed.
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    Gabs3Gabs3 Posts: 836
    Tim_B said:

    Stocky said:

    Cookie said:

    Have we settled on a pronunciation yet? Butty-geeg? With two hard g sounds (as in 'great'?

    I think it`s Butty-cheek
    it's -- Boot edge edge
    Except Americans can't pronounce Ts at the end of words, so Bood edge edge
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    Gabs3Gabs3 Posts: 836
    TGOHF666 said:

    https://twitter.com/chrismusson/status/1225193885930004480?s=21

    I think 16 is too young an age of consent when it's irregardless of the age of the other party. I think it should be staggered to prevent grooming.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,614
    edited February 2020
    TGOHF666 said:

    https://twitter.com/chrismusson/status/1225193146881052673?s=21

    Website down: http://www.derekmackaysnp.org

    https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/derekmackaysnp.org
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    MJWMJW Posts: 1,347
    CarlottaVance said:

    TGOHF666 said:

    https://twitter.com/chrismusson/status/1225193146881052673?s=21

    Website down: http://www.derekmackaysnp.org

    https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/derekmackaysnp.org
    no it ain't.
    http://www.derekmackaymsp.org/
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,734
    Gabs3 said:

    Tim_B said:

    Stocky said:

    Cookie said:

    Have we settled on a pronunciation yet? Butty-geeg? With two hard g sounds (as in 'great'?

    I think it`s Butty-cheek
    it's -- Boot edge edge
    Except Americans can't pronounce Ts at the end of words, so Bood edge edge
    And also cannot pronounce "Daniel Craig": they consistently pronounce it as "Daniel Creg".
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    TGOHF666TGOHF666 Posts: 2,052
    Will Mr Mackay present the budget tomorrow ?

    Next SNP leader market just got blown wide open - if only there was one..
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,614
    edited February 2020
    (Half) Hooray!

    https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1225208772534177792?s=20

    Also Ruth.....
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,962
    CarlottaVance said:

    (Half) Hooray!

    https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1225208772534177792?s=20

    Will be good to see Clarke in ermine.

    But where's our JohnO's hereditary dukedom?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    CarlottaVance said:

    (Half) Hooray!

    twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1225208772534177792?s=20

    Also he has nominated Ruth Davidson (not exactly best of buddies with Boris), Iain Austin and John Woodcock.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,576
    How about this as an idea for the BBC:

    (a) Reduce the licence fee to around £50 (from £154).
    (b) Put commercial adverts on prime time BBC1 programmes.
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    TGOHF666TGOHF666 Posts: 2,052
    Clarke and Ruth : yes.

    Hammond ? Why ?
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,614
    edited February 2020
    MJW said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    TGOHF666 said:

    https://twitter.com/chrismusson/status/1225193146881052673?s=21

    Website down: http://www.derekmackaysnp.org

    https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/derekmackaysnp.org
    no it ain't.
    http://www.derekmackaymsp.org/
    Was when I checked...Silly me! I followed the link from his Twitter Profile - which clearly hasn't been updated.

    https://twitter.com/DerekMackaySNP
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,962
    TGOHF666 said:

    Budget day in Holyrood tomorrow...

    How long has the Sun sat on this for? :D
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    edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,150
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    edmundintokyo said:

    I wasn't that impressed by Buttigieg who didn't seem to have a lot of accomplishments but the Bernie people in my twitter feed have convinced me he's a man to be reckoned with. Not only can he bring off an immense conspiracy, I like the stylish way he hid it in plain sight by calling his election-rigging company Shadow.

    The Bernie mob do seem to have gone completely nutso over this conspiracy theory.
    It's a reason to think Elizabeth Warren might get the VP spot. They're going to have to give the left something, and nobody can work with Bernie. More so if the race makes it to the convention and they need to buy her off.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited February 2020
    TGOHF666 said:

    Clarke and Ruth : yes.

    Hammond ? Why ?

    It is generally convention that former chancellor gets it. And unlike Bercow, I don't think there are any suggestions that boring Brian liked to go around bullying staff.
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    TheGreenMachineTheGreenMachine Posts: 1,043
    The thing is, he didn't actually do anything physical and he's a MP, therefore not much will happen he'll give the child a few thousand or something..
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edmundintokyo said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    edmundintokyo said:

    I wasn't that impressed by Buttigieg who didn't seem to have a lot of accomplishments but the Bernie people in my twitter feed have convinced me he's a man to be reckoned with. Not only can he bring off an immense conspiracy, I like the stylish way he hid it in plain sight by calling his election-rigging company Shadow.

    The Bernie mob do seem to have gone completely nutso over this conspiracy theory.
    It's a reason to think Elizabeth Warren might get the VP spot. They're going to have to give the left something, and nobody can work with Bernie. More so if the race makes it to the convention and they need to buy her off.
    But don't the Bernie mob dislike Warren though? As they see her as a faker and not genuine on many of the issues that matter to them. One of the big reasons many of them love Bernie is the fact, like Jezza, that he basically hasn't changed his views on anything for 50 years.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,614
    https://twitter.com/ChrisMusson/status/1225205876061020162?s=20
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,734
    TGOHF666 said:

    Clarke and Ruth : yes.

    Hammond ? Why ?

    They might need a draught excluder and he's the right shape and consistency.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,960
    Andy_JS said:

    Is Betfair determining the Iowa caucus winner based on votes or delegates?

    State Delegate Equivalents.

    Which is why Buttigieg was always in with a good shout. He flooded the rural areas with workers, while Sanders worked on maximizing his turnout at the University of Iowa.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited February 2020
    Andy_JS said:

    How about this as an idea for the BBC:

    (a) Reduce the licence fee to around £50 (from £154).
    (b) Put commercial adverts on prime time BBC1 programmes.

    That seems like the worst of both worlds. Still an mandatory telly tax, the BBC will claim even with ads it is no where near enough to sustain quality / programmes that wouldn't be commercially viable / yadda yadda yadda, and also remember that licence fee also ends up with other outlets not just the BBC tv.

    The reality is that a) the telly tax is now totally unenforceable and b) the way especially the young consume media doesn't revolve around the live telly or radio.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,960
    Andy_JS said:

    How about this as an idea for the BBC:

    (a) Reduce the licence fee to around £50 (from £154).
    (b) Put commercial adverts on prime time BBC1 programmes.

    How about get rid of the BBC (for television), except as a commissioning mechanism for programs - history or art or science-related - that might not otherwise get made.

    This wouldn't have to cost the taxpayer anything, because it could be entirely funded by the sale of existing BBC intellectual property.
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    Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 26,576
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Andy_JS said:

    How about this as an idea for the BBC:

    (a) Reduce the licence fee to around £50 (from £154).
    (b) Put commercial adverts on prime time BBC1 programmes.

    That seems like the worst of both worlds. Still an mandatory telly tax, the BBC will claim even with ads it is no where near enough to sustain quality / programmes that wouldn't be commercially viable / yadda yadda yadda, and also remember that licence fee also ends up with other outlets not just the BBC tv.
    I sort of agree, but it's possibly the only way to avoid the BBC becoming a subscription-only service — which may well be the best solution. I was just trying to think of alternatives.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,962
    TheGreenMachine said:

    The thing is, he didn't actually do anything physical and he's a MP, therefore not much will happen he'll give the child a few thousand or something..

    I think he'll be sacked pretty soon. His career in politics is over.
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886
    Gabs3 said:

    TGOHF666 said:

    https://twitter.com/chrismusson/status/1225193885930004480?s=21

    I think 16 is too young an age of consent when it's irregardless of the age of the other party. I think it should be staggered to prevent grooming.
    I'd agree with that. 16 & 20 is dodgy, but probably okay. 16 and 23, 24, 25? No way
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,614
    TheGreenMachine said:

    The thing is, he didn't actually do anything physical and he's a MP, therefore not much will happen he'll give the child a few thousand or something..

    Isn't "grooming" an offence?
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited February 2020
    Andy_JS said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Andy_JS said:

    How about this as an idea for the BBC:

    (a) Reduce the licence fee to around £50 (from £154).
    (b) Put commercial adverts on prime time BBC1 programmes.

    That seems like the worst of both worlds. Still an mandatory telly tax, the BBC will claim even with ads it is no where near enough to sustain quality / programmes that wouldn't be commercially viable / yadda yadda yadda, and also remember that licence fee also ends up with other outlets not just the BBC tv.
    I sort of agree, but it's possibly the only way to avoid the BBC becoming a subscription-only service — which may well be the best solution. I was just trying to think of alternatives.
    The reality is that a) the telly tax is now totally unenforceable and b) the way especially the young consume media doesn't revolve around the live telly or radio.

    The big problem the BBC has is that the likes of YouTube is the go to outlet for the youngsters and Netflix for young adults. And for example the likes of BBC Three YouTube channel does absolutely appalling numbers compared to most successful / popular channels on that platform, shows they don't really have much appeal to those using the YouTube platform i.e. the next generation.
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    edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,150
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    edmundintokyo said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    edmundintokyo said:

    I wasn't that impressed by Buttigieg who didn't seem to have a lot of accomplishments but the Bernie people in my twitter feed have convinced me he's a man to be reckoned with. Not only can he bring off an immense conspiracy, I like the stylish way he hid it in plain sight by calling his election-rigging company Shadow.

    The Bernie mob do seem to have gone completely nutso over this conspiracy theory.
    It's a reason to think Elizabeth Warren might get the VP spot. They're going to have to give the left something, and nobody can work with Bernie. More so if the race makes it to the convention and they need to buy her off.
    But don't the Bernie mob dislike Warren though? As they see her as a faker and not genuine on many of the issues that matter to them. One of the big reasons many of them love Bernie is the fact, like Jezza, that he basically hasn't changed his views on anything for 50 years.
    Yes, the core of Bernie's support hate everyone except Bernie, Cenk Uygur and Michael Moore. But there aren't that many of them, the problem is that they influence a broader group on the left.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,960
    From Slate:

    As of Wednesday morning, Buttigieg was winning 60 of Iowa’s 99 counties. Sanders had 18 counties. Biden had seven.

    Buttigieg did well in nearly every demographic. He was the first choice among women and the second (behind Sanders) among men. He was the first choice among people ages 45 to 64, the second choice among those ages 30 to 44, and—contrary to expectations—the second choice among those ages 17 to 29. He came in first among caucusgoers who had college degrees and second among those who didn’t. He also performed better than expected among nonwhites. Sanders won that constituency easily, but Buttigieg, at 15 percent, led the pack of candidates who trailed behind.

    On issue after issue, Buttigieg was either the favorite or second favorite candidate. Among caucusgoers who cared most about health care, he tied for the lead with Sanders. Among those who cared most about foreign policy, he came in second to Biden. Among those who focused on electability, he tied for the lead, drawing 24 percent to Biden’s 23 percent. Sanders got 31 percent of first-time caucusgoers, but Buttigieg was next with 25 percent. In precincts where supporters of marginal candidates had to disband and move to a second choice, the candidate they chose—twice as often as any other candidate—was Buttigieg. He won by being broadly acceptable.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,614
    Even the CyberNats are worried:

    https://twitter.com/DeesideCybernat/status/1225213813999443969?s=20
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,986
    edited February 2020
    https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1225183222297976834?s=20
    https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1225182802624294915?s=20
    https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1225181037262708736?s=20
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edmundintokyo said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    edmundintokyo said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    edmundintokyo said:

    I wasn't that impressed by Buttigieg who didn't seem to have a lot of accomplishments but the Bernie people in my twitter feed have convinced me he's a man to be reckoned with. Not only can he bring off an immense conspiracy, I like the stylish way he hid it in plain sight by calling his election-rigging company Shadow.

    The Bernie mob do seem to have gone completely nutso over this conspiracy theory.
    It's a reason to think Elizabeth Warren might get the VP spot. They're going to have to give the left something, and nobody can work with Bernie. More so if the race makes it to the convention and they need to buy her off.
    But don't the Bernie mob dislike Warren though? As they see her as a faker and not genuine on many of the issues that matter to them. One of the big reasons many of them love Bernie is the fact, like Jezza, that he basically hasn't changed his views on anything for 50 years.
    Yes, the core of Bernie's support hate everyone except Bernie, Cenk Uygur and Michael Moore. But there aren't that many of them, the problem is that they influence a broader group on the left.
    If Bloomberg got the nomination, I think you could probably power the US national grid for the next 4 years on the amount of heat they would produce from all their outrage.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,614
    RobD said:

    TGOHF666 said:

    Budget day in Holyrood tomorrow...

    How long has the Sun sat on this for? :D
    The most recent text was 5 days ago and the mother only found out last week - so not long, it would appear.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,986
    TheGreenMachine said:



    One of the greatest, you'll be sadly missed.

    Yes, death of an icon no doubt
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,986
    CarlottaVance said:

    Even the CyberNats are worried:

    https://twitter.com/DeesideCybernat/status/1225213813999443969?s=20

    Should keep Sturgeon busy for a but dealing with the fallout
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    TGOHF666TGOHF666 Posts: 2,052
    HYUFD said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Even the CyberNats are worried:

    https://twitter.com/DeesideCybernat/status/1225213813999443969?s=20

    Should keep Sturgeon busy for a but dealing with the fallout
    Gordon Brown endured by seeing off potential successors.

    The void behind Sturgeon just got bigger.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,986
    edited February 2020
    Some reaction to Mitt Romney's decision to vote with the unsuccessful Senate attempt to convict Trump today
    https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1225215277811617792?s=20
    https://twitter.com/Scaramucci/status/1225212756342845441?s=20
    https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/1225213956089884674?s=20
    https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/1225145923464040448?s=20
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    TheGreenMachineTheGreenMachine Posts: 1,043
    CarlottaVance said:

    TheGreenMachine said:

    The thing is, he didn't actually do anything physical and he's a MP, therefore not much will happen he'll give the child a few thousand or something..

    Isn't "grooming" an offence?
    You clearly didn't read my comment.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,614
    Up to a point, Lord Copper

    It's a budget, but not as we know it. Derek Mackay will get to his feet on Thursday afternoon, with a lot of pencilling, and the hope of ink next month.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-51394748
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    TGOHF666TGOHF666 Posts: 2,052
    TheGreenMachine said:

    The thing is, he didn't actually do anything physical and he's a MP, therefore not much will happen he'll give the child a few thousand or something..

    Eh ? This isn’t the Catholic Church - This is career ending.
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    TheGreenMachineTheGreenMachine Posts: 1,043
    BBC licence is a scam. They need to abolish it.
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    TheGreenMachineTheGreenMachine Posts: 1,043
    TGOHF666 said:

    TheGreenMachine said:

    The thing is, he didn't actually do anything physical and he's a MP, therefore not much will happen he'll give the child a few thousand or something..

    Eh ? This isn’t the Catholic Church - This is career ending.
    Is that an insult to Catholic church?

    Make sure they don't see you typing that.
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    EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976
    edmundintokyo said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    edmundintokyo said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    edmundintokyo said:

    I wasn't that impressed by Buttigieg who didn't seem to have a lot of accomplishments but the Bernie people in my twitter feed have convinced me he's a man to be reckoned with. Not only can he bring off an immense conspiracy, I like the stylish way he hid it in plain sight by calling his election-rigging company Shadow.

    The Bernie mob do seem to have gone completely nutso over this conspiracy theory.
    It's a reason to think Elizabeth Warren might get the VP spot. They're going to have to give the left something, and nobody can work with Bernie. More so if the race makes it to the convention and they need to buy her off.
    But don't the Bernie mob dislike Warren though? As they see her as a faker and not genuine on many of the issues that matter to them. One of the big reasons many of them love Bernie is the fact, like Jezza, that he basically hasn't changed his views on anything for 50 years.
    Yes, the core of Bernie's support hate everyone except Bernie, Cenk Uygur and Michael Moore. But there aren't that many of them, the problem is that they influence a broader group on the left.
    AOC, Rashida Tlaib, and the other new far left Democrat reps?
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,614
    He was the future, once.

    So the battle to be the next leader of the party will not just be about who appears the pre-eminent candidate. It will also be about differing views on policy, positioning and strategy. Alternative approaches will be advanced and debated, in public — the SNP will show its workings. There are likely to be fall-outs and rows.

    The current leadership’s favoured successor is said to be Derek Mackay, the Finance Secretary at Holyrood. Mackay is wily, able and energetic, and has overseen progressive changes to the Scottish tax system in recent years. He may, however, be seen as too close to Sturgeon.

    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2019/09/who-will-succeed-nicola-sturgeon-snp-leader
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,614
    edited February 2020
    TheGreenMachine said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    TheGreenMachine said:

    The thing is, he didn't actually do anything physical and he's a MP, therefore not much will happen he'll give the child a few thousand or something..

    Isn't "grooming" an offence?
    You clearly didn't read my comment.
    You think this is consequence-free for Mackay?

    "not much will happen"
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    stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,779
    Mitt Romney. Respect.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,962
    538 have updated their forecast with Sanders storming ahead:

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast
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    rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787
    I usually strongly prefer cock-up over conspiracy, but the Iowa Democratic Party don’t seem to be doing much to reassure me

    https://twitter.com/lib_crusher/status/1225167351617712128
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,269
    TheGreenMachine said:

    BBC licence is a scam. They need to abolish it.

    It's a TV Poll Tax.

    No one is arrested for not paying a Sky sub or Netflix.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,962
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    TheGreenMachine said:

    BBC licence is a scam. They need to abolish it.

    It's a TV Poll Tax.

    No one is arrested for not paying a Sky sub or Netflix.
    You can't watch those without an account though.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,269
    RobD said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    TheGreenMachine said:

    BBC licence is a scam. They need to abolish it.

    It's a TV Poll Tax.

    No one is arrested for not paying a Sky sub or Netflix.
    You can't watch those without an account though.
    Yes, but you're not arrested for not paying, silly!
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,614
    Courier profile of Derek MacKay;

    https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/1124587/profile-ahead-of-his-scottish-budget-we-ask-is-the-snps-finance-chief-derek-mackay-the-real-deal/

    And not long after...

    The Scottish Government’s budget has been thrown into chaos after the Finance Secretary was rocked by serious allegations.

    https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/1125748/scottish-politics-rocked-by-derek-mackay-text-message-allegations-ahead-of-budget-announcement/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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    speedy2speedy2 Posts: 981
    With 92% in Buttigieg's lead with SDE's is down to 0.9%.
    https://edition.cnn.com/election/2020/state/iowa

    I'm uncalling it on SDE's.

    It's just getting to close with all these reports about tabulating errors to say that Buttigieg has won the SDE's right now.

    It's like Florida in 2000 but at the start of a Presidential Race not the End of it.

    Anyway it's not the first time that the wrong Winner could be announced, in 2012 it was Santorum that won the corrected count instead of Romney who was initially declared the winner.
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    speedy2speedy2 Posts: 981
    And I'm still seeing tabulating errors in Iowa myself, like in Emmet County Steyer is getting 10%.

    I have to uncall Iowa Sate Delegates for Buttigieg, his lead is down to less than 1% with all this uncertainty about the results.
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    brokenwheelbrokenwheel Posts: 3,352
    edited February 2020
    ^^^
    Especially as the satellite caucuses have begun reporting, and they're generally going heavily Sanders with zip for Boot Edge Edge Mayor Pete.
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    speedy2speedy2 Posts: 981
    brokenwheel said:

    ^^^
    Especially as the satellite caucuses have begun reporting, and they're generally going heavily Sanders with zip for Boot Edge Edge Mayor Pete.

    Yep.
    The TV Networks are catching up on it too:

    https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1225242125144596480

    There is the possibility now that Sanders may win the Iowa State Delegates by a margin of 3 Delegates.

    That's why I uncalled it.
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    edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,150
    Endillion said:

    edmundintokyo said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    edmundintokyo said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    edmundintokyo said:

    I wasn't that impressed by Buttigieg who didn't seem to have a lot of accomplishments but the Bernie people in my twitter feed have convinced me he's a man to be reckoned with. Not only can he bring off an immense conspiracy, I like the stylish way he hid it in plain sight by calling his election-rigging company Shadow.

    The Bernie mob do seem to have gone completely nutso over this conspiracy theory.
    It's a reason to think Elizabeth Warren might get the VP spot. They're going to have to give the left something, and nobody can work with Bernie. More so if the race makes it to the convention and they need to buy her off.
    But don't the Bernie mob dislike Warren though? As they see her as a faker and not genuine on many of the issues that matter to them. One of the big reasons many of them love Bernie is the fact, like Jezza, that he basically hasn't changed his views on anything for 50 years.
    Yes, the core of Bernie's support hate everyone except Bernie, Cenk Uygur and Michael Moore. But there aren't that many of them, the problem is that they influence a broader group on the left.
    AOC, Rashida Tlaib, and the other new far left Democrat reps?
    Fair point
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    TheGreenMachineTheGreenMachine Posts: 1,043
    CarlottaVance said:

    TheGreenMachine said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    TheGreenMachine said:

    The thing is, he didn't actually do anything physical and he's a MP, therefore not much will happen he'll give the child a few thousand or something..

    Isn't "grooming" an offence?
    You clearly didn't read my comment.
    You think this is consequence-free for Mackay?

    "not much will happen"
    Prince Andrew was / is.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,614
    TheGreenMachine said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    TheGreenMachine said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    TheGreenMachine said:

    The thing is, he didn't actually do anything physical and he's a MP, therefore not much will happen he'll give the child a few thousand or something..

    Isn't "grooming" an offence?
    You clearly didn't read my comment.
    You think this is consequence-free for Mackay?

    "not much will happen"
    Prince Andrew was / is.
    Whataboutery.....to confirm, you think "not much will happen" to Mackay?
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,614
    Good pull together on Coronavirus:

    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
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    TheGreenMachineTheGreenMachine Posts: 1,043
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    TheGreenMachine said:

    BBC licence is a scam. They need to abolish it.

    It's a TV Poll Tax.

    No one is arrested for not paying a Sky sub or Netflix.
    I know but anyone who has sky or Netflix should have their head's checked, both complete nonsense.
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