Can anyone suggest a link to the data slides for today's briefing? I thought it was a right mess today. No slides full screen, only one bigwig with Sharma. Incomplete data onscreen. We can't blame it all on Zoom, surely?
I've noticed that, despite all the caterwauling about a spike in public transport use in London after the Boris broadcast last weekend (and OMFG the virus will spread like wildfire and we're all going to die,) the trend line for the Tube appears to show no increase in passengers at all.
The TfL bus numbers are no longer available, presumably because they have stopped charging passengers, so I suppose that it is theoretically possible that some huge increase in demand for them isn't being picked up - but the national railway and bus graphs are also completely flat.
There was some video shot at North Acton which was used by the anti-lock down media as evidence said lock down was collapsing and should be eased.
North Acton is where Central Line trains from Ealing Broadway meet those coming from West Ruislip so it's not surprising you see people getting off one Central Line onto another (the same happens at Leytonstone). What the video doesn't show is how full or empty the trains were but that wasn't the point - the image was aimed to illustrate the lock down in London was collapsing and people in their hordes were returning to work.
As you say, passenger number and other anecdotal evidence suggests tubes and trains are and remain very quiet. Buses will be charging again from tomorrow as part of the "deal" Sadiq Khan was forced to make with the Government to keep any kind of service going.
The Government take over of Transport for London (akin to what happened in Northamptonshire) hasn't yet been mirrored among the rail operators but they too are running almost empty trains and must be suffering financially.
I likes the forces perspective shots across the length of a train.
The important thing is the statistics on usage - In God we trust. All others bring data.
All being well I’m going home tomorrow 24 days is a long time in hospital. Spanish health service excellent despite how it was three weeks ago. Very relaxed now with visiting now allowed although there are still some covid patients left I believe.
Labour is drawing up ambitious proposals to rescue the post-coronavirus economy with a radical green recovery plan focused on helping young people who lose their jobs by retraining them in green industries.
Recovery plan, yes. Good ideas are welcome. Unfortunately radical and green are likely to be synonyms for total BS that would finish off the economy given the ideologies dominant in the LP at present.
Isn't much of this just the gibberish from Richard Murphy warmed-over a little?
Golly. I am all for pointing at lefty anti-semites and laughing, but I haven't seen a weaker claim than this. It is a completely pathetic "Foreign names are hilarious, especially when they accidentally contain proper English words" gag, but who knew Tugendhat was a Jewish name, if it is?
Imagine that someone wrote an article in the Daily Mail, using the comic possibilities of the name of (say) a Muslim advisor to Lord Keith Starmer?
I always find it a reasonable measure to rotate such things through a sequence of alternates (replace religions, political allegiance etc etc) - if it causes offence in one case, it should cause offence in all.
It is worth noting that "Sir Keir" sounds a lot like "bell end" in Farsi.
Labour is drawing up ambitious proposals to rescue the post-coronavirus economy with a radical green recovery plan focused on helping young people who lose their jobs by retraining them in green industries.
Recovery plan, yes. Good ideas are welcome. Unfortunately radical and green are likely to be synonyms for total BS that would finish off the economy given the ideologies dominant in the LP at present.
Isn't much of this just the gibberish from Richard Murphy warmed-over a little?
Golly. I am all for pointing at lefty anti-semites and laughing, but I haven't seen a weaker claim than this. It is a completely pathetic "Foreign names are hilarious, especially when they accidentally contain proper English words" gag, but who knew Tugendhat was a Jewish name, if it is?
Imagine that someone wrote an article in the Daily Mail, using the comic possibilities of the name of (say) a Muslim advisor to Lord Keith Starmer?
I always find it a reasonable measure to rotate such things through a sequence of alternates (replace religions, political allegiance etc etc) - if it causes offence in one case, it should cause offence in all.
It is worth noting that "Sir Keir" sounds a lot like "bell end" in Farsi.
I likes the forces perspective shots across the length of a train.
The important thing is the statistics on usage - In God we trust. All others bring data.
Tomorrow will be interesting - TfL intend to run a 70% tube service including re-opening the Circle Line and a number of stations.
As it remains our "civic duty" not to use public transport, that will mean the taxpayer will be paying for empty trains to travel round and up and down the network that we aren't supposed to be using.
This is grade A lunacy and part of a silly political point Boris Johnson and Grant Shapps are trying to make at Khan's expense. Forcing him to run empty trains and wasting taxpayers' money so doing is part of the reason I could never support the current bunch of nunbskulls running the country.
I presume this is part of London's "punishment" for having the temerity to back Khan rather than Zac Goldsmith in 2016.
I likes the forces perspective shots across the length of a train.
The important thing is the statistics on usage - In God we trust. All others bring data.
Tomorrow will be interesting - TfL intend to run a 70% tube service including re-opening the Circle Line and a number of stations.
As it remains our "civic duty" not to use public transport, that will mean the taxpayer will be paying for empty trains to travel round and up and down the network that we aren't supposed to be using.
This is grade A lunacy and part of a silly political point Boris Johnson and Grant Shapps are trying to make at Khan's expense. Forcing him to run empty trains and wasting taxpayers' money so doing is part of the reason I could never support the current bunch of nunbskulls running the country.
I presume this is part of London's "punishment" for having the temerity to back Khan rather than Zac Goldsmith in 2016.
It is to increase the carrying capacity of the Tube systems while allowing for social distancing. The suggested numbers are that the services can run at 10-15% of capacity while preserving the distancing.
Capacity increase has to lead any increase in usage.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
I don't know about anyone else, but I veer between three different attitudes to the Plague:
1. Optimism - either it turns out that this disease has a lower than expected threshold for herd immunity, or a vaccination or drug treatment trial tames it at some point in the next few months 2. Pessimism - we're going to be stuck with the misery of social distancing for years, it's going to destroy the economy and make everyone's lives unbearable. Mass cliff-jumping and wrist-slitting will commence by Christmas at the latest 3. Fatalism - the disease will take off again but attempts to reimpose lockdown will fail because people will have lost all faith in it. Best efforts will be made to protect the vulnerable and will hopefully do some good; much of the rest of the population will get it, and it'll burn itself out by the end of the year
I've the personal aspect and the societal aspect. Personally, I'm scared of this virus and have adapted how I live and interact with people to avoid catching it until a vaccine becomes available.
At a wider level, once it became clear this wasn't an extinction-level pandemic, it was inevitable human ingenuity would rapidly seek to understand and find solutions to the problem. Changes have and will continue to be made but we are in a better place than we were two months ago.
This is why I'm absolutely confident climate change can and will be addressed - human ingenuity and adaptability are infinite - we will change how we live and adapt while technology is harnessed to save the planet.
Short of a global nuclear war or an artificial pandemic of extinction-level proportions and assuming astronomical events don't intervene, I view the future with cautious optimism.
Stodge, the biggest difference between a pandemic and climate change are that a pandemic is rapid onset with visible effects which potentially affect everyone living now; climate change is slow onset, with mainly invisible effects at this point, and which are much more likely to affect those currently young and their kids than the majority of the current population.
What this means is that we over-estimate the risks of a pandemic and underestimate those of global warming; and we over-react in our responses to the former, and under-react in our responses to the latter.
Labour is drawing up ambitious proposals to rescue the post-coronavirus economy with a radical green recovery plan focused on helping young people who lose their jobs by retraining them in green industries.
Recovery plan, yes. Good ideas are welcome. Unfortunately radical and green are likely to be synonyms for total BS that would finish off the economy given the ideologies dominant in the LP at present.
Isn't much of this just the gibberish from Richard Murphy warmed-over a little?
Golly. I am all for pointing at lefty anti-semites and laughing, but I haven't seen a weaker claim than this. It is a completely pathetic "Foreign names are hilarious, especially when they accidentally contain proper English words" gag, but who knew Tugendhat was a Jewish name, if it is?
Imagine that someone wrote an article in the Daily Mail, using the comic possibilities of the name of (say) a Muslim advisor to Lord Keith Starmer?
I always find it a reasonable measure to rotate such things through a sequence of alternates (replace religions, political allegiance etc etc) - if it causes offence in one case, it should cause offence in all.
It is worth noting that "Sir Keir" sounds a lot like "bell end" in Farsi.
All being well I’m going home tomorrow 24 days is a long time in hospital. Spanish health service excellent despite how it was three weeks ago. Very relaxed now with visiting now allowed although there are still some covid patients left I believe.
@nichomar Great news, hope you are back to 100% soon.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
First they went after Michael Foot for his donkey jacket, now they're crucifying Sir Keir Starmer over his donkey sanctuary. It should be obvious by now that the right wing establishment have some weird donkey hatred thing going on. Probably some sexual hangup from their boarding school days. Or are they simply in the pocket of the dog food industry, and hate the thought of another Benjamin saved from the knacker's yard?
Labour is drawing up ambitious proposals to rescue the post-coronavirus economy with a radical green recovery plan focused on helping young people who lose their jobs by retraining them in green industries.
Recovery plan, yes. Good ideas are welcome. Unfortunately radical and green are likely to be synonyms for total BS that would finish off the economy given the ideologies dominant in the LP at present.
Isn't much of this just the gibberish from Richard Murphy warmed-over a little?
Golly. I am all for pointing at lefty anti-semites and laughing, but I haven't seen a weaker claim than this. It is a completely pathetic "Foreign names are hilarious, especially when they accidentally contain proper English words" gag, but who knew Tugendhat was a Jewish name, if it is?
Imagine that someone wrote an article in the Daily Mail, using the comic possibilities of the name of (say) a Muslim advisor to Lord Keith Starmer?
I always find it a reasonable measure to rotate such things through a sequence of alternates (replace religions, political allegiance etc etc) - if it causes offence in one case, it should cause offence in all.
It is worth noting that "Sir Keir" sounds a lot like "bell end" in Farsi.
I likes the forces perspective shots across the length of a train.
The important thing is the statistics on usage - In God we trust. All others bring data.
Tomorrow will be interesting - TfL intend to run a 70% tube service including re-opening the Circle Line and a number of stations.
As it remains our "civic duty" not to use public transport, that will mean the taxpayer will be paying for empty trains to travel round and up and down the network that we aren't supposed to be using.
This is grade A lunacy and part of a silly political point Boris Johnson and Grant Shapps are trying to make at Khan's expense. Forcing him to run empty trains and wasting taxpayers' money so doing is part of the reason I could never support the current bunch of nunbskulls running the country.
I presume this is part of London's "punishment" for having the temerity to back Khan rather than Zac Goldsmith in 2016.
It is to increase the carrying capacity of the Tube systems while allowing for social distancing. The suggested numbers are that the services can run at 10-15% of capacity while preserving the distancing.
Capacity increase has to lead any increase in usage.
I take the Piccadily line in from Heathrow around six-thirty during the week. Starting in Hounslow, the trains certainly weren't empty. And as has been reported, social distancing went out the window.
I don't know. If you're reintroducing the congestion charge - while keeping capacity down to 15 percent - it seems like an unplanned or planned cash grab.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
I forgot about Labour's manifesto promise to abolish all private property and crush the donkey sanctuary owning kulaks, but thanks for reminding us. With this kind of attention to detail in the Tory ranks, no wonder we have one of the lowest Coronavirus death rates in Europe!
But the likes of Stewart Lee show that however tolerant the vast majority of us may be, there will always be a subset of bigots for whom the Jew remains an outsider - an object of scorn and derision for their otherness.
And, it seems, they will always have a home in the Guardian.
Labour is drawing up ambitious proposals to rescue the post-coronavirus economy with a radical green recovery plan focused on helping young people who lose their jobs by retraining them in green industries.
Recovery plan, yes. Good ideas are welcome. Unfortunately radical and green are likely to be synonyms for total BS that would finish off the economy given the ideologies dominant in the LP at present.
Isn't much of this just the gibberish from Richard Murphy warmed-over a little?
Golly. I am all for pointing at lefty anti-semites and laughing, but I haven't seen a weaker claim than this. It is a completely pathetic "Foreign names are hilarious, especially when they accidentally contain proper English words" gag, but who knew Tugendhat was a Jewish name, if it is?
Imagine that someone wrote an article in the Daily Mail, using the comic possibilities of the name of (say) a Muslim advisor to Lord Keith Starmer?
I always find it a reasonable measure to rotate such things through a sequence of alternates (replace religions, political allegiance etc etc) - if it causes offence in one case, it should cause offence in all.
It is worth noting that "Sir Keir" sounds a lot like "bell end" in Farsi.
I don't know about anyone else, but I veer between three different attitudes to the Plague:
1. Optimism - either it turns out that this disease has a lower than expected threshold for herd immunity, or a vaccination or drug treatment trial tames it at some point in the next few months 2. Pessimism - we're going to be stuck with the misery of social distancing for years, it's going to destroy the economy and make everyone's lives unbearable. Mass cliff-jumping and wrist-slitting will commence by Christmas at the latest 3. Fatalism - the disease will take off again but attempts to reimpose lockdown will fail because people will have lost all faith in it. Best efforts will be made to protect the vulnerable and will hopefully do some good; much of the rest of the population will get it, and it'll burn itself out by the end of the year
I've the personal aspect and the societal aspect. Personally, I'm scared of this virus and have adapted how I live and interact with people to avoid catching it until a vaccine becomes available.
At a wider level, once it became clear this wasn't an extinction-level pandemic, it was inevitable human ingenuity would rapidly seek to understand and find solutions to the problem. Changes have and will continue to be made but we are in a better place than we were two months ago.
This is why I'm absolutely confident climate change can and will be addressed - human ingenuity and adaptability are infinite - we will change how we live and adapt while technology is harnessed to save the planet.
Short of a global nuclear war or an artificial pandemic of extinction-level proportions and assuming astronomical events don't intervene, I view the future with cautious optimism.
Stodge, the biggest difference between a pandemic and climate change are that a pandemic is rapid onset with visible effects which potentially affect everyone living now; climate change is slow onset, with mainly invisible effects at this point, and which are much more likely to affect those currently young and their kids than the majority of the current population.
What this means is that we over-estimate the risks of a pandemic and underestimate those of global warming; and we over-react in our responses to the former, and under-react in our responses to the latter.
True, except that we have just had the warmest winter ever which was 1.4°C warmer than the previous warmest winter ever which was in 2015-16. And I heard on the radio the other day that the highest French ski resorts are only guaranteed snow until 2050. It is all looking a bit here and nowish.
Labour is drawing up ambitious proposals to rescue the post-coronavirus economy with a radical green recovery plan focused on helping young people who lose their jobs by retraining them in green industries.
Recovery plan, yes. Good ideas are welcome. Unfortunately radical and green are likely to be synonyms for total BS that would finish off the economy given the ideologies dominant in the LP at present.
Isn't much of this just the gibberish from Richard Murphy warmed-over a little?
Golly. I am all for pointing at lefty anti-semites and laughing, but I haven't seen a weaker claim than this. It is a completely pathetic "Foreign names are hilarious, especially when they accidentally contain proper English words" gag, but who knew Tugendhat was a Jewish name, if it is?
Imagine that someone wrote an article in the Daily Mail, using the comic possibilities of the name of (say) a Muslim advisor to Lord Keith Starmer?
I always find it a reasonable measure to rotate such things through a sequence of alternates (replace religions, political allegiance etc etc) - if it causes offence in one case, it should cause offence in all.
It is worth noting that "Sir Keir" sounds a lot like "bell end" in Farsi.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
I forgot about Labour's manifesto promise to abolish all private property and crush the donkey sanctuary owning kulaks, but thanks for reminding us. With this kind of attention to detail in the Tory ranks, no wonder we have one of the lowest Coronavirus death rates in Europe!
The expropriation of private wealth was explicitly included in the Labour manifesto, and all their 'I'm a communist, you idiot' outriders were absolutely salivating over it. No point trying to re-write history now.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
The fun will start if someone accidentally builds houses on it.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
The fun will start if someone accidentally builds houses on it.
I bought a 4 acre field some years ago, as it backs onto my garden. £10 000 per acre is the going rate here, but 20-40 times that with planning permission. No one builds on it but me. I have a few sheep on it at present.
At the moment planning permission is a windfall. If councils charged £100k an acre, everyone would be happy and a good source of revenue.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
I forgot about Labour's manifesto promise to abolish all private property and crush the donkey sanctuary owning kulaks, but thanks for reminding us. With this kind of attention to detail in the Tory ranks, no wonder we have one of the lowest Coronavirus death rates in Europe!
The expropriation of private wealth was explicitly included in the Labour manifesto, and all their 'I'm a communist, you idiot' outriders were absolutely salivating over it. No point trying to re-write history now.
Can I come round to yours? You clearly have some exceptional drugs.
Eh? Hasn't R4 news done 2 longish interviews with him recently? Must admit hearing the 'political correctness' cliché made me switch off a bit during the last one.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
Where can these goons go after their 'greedy lefty hypocrite' ploy was such a massive fail? Gratuitous virtue signalling perhaps, showing off with his orphan donkeys and disabled mum schtick?
Eh? Hasn't R4 news done 2 longish interviews with him recently? Must admit hearing the 'political correctness' cliché made me switch off a bit during the last one.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
The fun will start if someone accidentally builds houses on it.
I bought a 4 acre field some years ago, as it backs onto my garden. £10 000 per acre is the going rate here, but 20-40 times that with planning permission. No one builds on it but me. I have a few sheep on it at present.
At the moment planning permission is a windfall. If councils charged £100k an acre, everyone would be happy and a good source of revenue.
I recall a farmer of my aquitance - dirt poor, but owned his small farm outright. Made dole money from it, pretty much
He accidentally acquired planning permission for a field. Some said it had something to do with a friend from nursery who became a planning inspector...
Turned up in the pub one night buying drinks... I can still feel the headache. He was so happy to have money to be generous with.
Eh? Hasn't R4 news done 2 longish interviews with him recently? Must admit hearing the 'political correctness' cliché made me switch off a bit during the last one.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
Where can these goons go after their 'greedy lefty hypocrite' ploy was such a massive fail? Gratuitous virtue signalling perhaps, showing off with his orphan donkeys and disabled mum schtick?
I would have though many MoS readers would very much like a paddock next to their house for donkeys and the like. It is a very middle England sort of dream. Looks like a backfire to me.
He’s a judge and historian. He is of the highest quality in both, but neither are conspicuous qualifications for his views about Covid-19 to get airtime. And since they got airtime anyway, this does seem to be a manufactured grievance.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
The fun will start if someone accidentally builds houses on it.
I bought a 4 acre field some years ago, as it backs onto my garden. £10 000 per acre is the going rate here, but 20-40 times that with planning permission. No one builds on it but me. I have a few sheep on it at present.
At the moment planning permission is a windfall. If councils charged £100k an acre, everyone would be happy and a good source of revenue.
Love the ridge and furrow. Never been ploughed. A relic of the middle ages.
He’s a judge and historian. He is of the highest quality in both, but neither are conspicuous qualifications for his views about Covid-19 to get airtime. And since they got airtime anyway, this does seem to be a manufactured grievance.
Malmesbury's 15th Law - When an expert in one field pronounces on another, the probability that he is talking bollocks is a function of the distance from one discipline to another and his/her personal level of insanity. The said level of insanity is suppressed in the case of his/her expertise.
But the likes of Stewart Lee show that however tolerant the vast majority of us may be, there will always be a subset of bigots for whom the Jew remains an outsider - an object of scorn and derision for their otherness.
And, it seems, they will always have a home in the Guardian.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
The fun will start if someone accidentally builds houses on it.
I bought a 4 acre field some years ago, as it backs onto my garden. £10 000 per acre is the going rate here, but 20-40 times that with planning permission. No one builds on it but me. I have a few sheep on it at present.
At the moment planning permission is a windfall. If councils charged £100k an acre, everyone would be happy and a good source of revenue.
Love the ridge and furrow. Never been ploughed. A relic of the middle ages.
Ridge and furrow is quite common in Leics still. The heavy clay benefits from a bit of drainage. Rich soil but slow to warm up in Spring.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
The fun will start if someone accidentally builds houses on it.
I bought a 4 acre field some years ago, as it backs onto my garden. £10 000 per acre is the going rate here, but 20-40 times that with planning permission. No one builds on it but me. I have a few sheep on it at present.
At the moment planning permission is a windfall. If councils charged £100k an acre, everyone would be happy and a good source of revenue.
Love the ridge and furrow. Never been ploughed. A relic of the middle ages.
Assume ridge and furrow is similar to lazybeds? Sometimes they're the only evidence of what must have been very old settlements in the Hebrides and Highlands.
He’s a judge and historian. He is of the highest quality in both, but neither are conspicuous qualifications for his views about Covid-19 to get airtime. And since they got airtime anyway, this does seem to be a manufactured grievance.
Ultimately it is unqualified politicians who have to make the decisions so I think he has as much right to comment on the political decisions being taken.
The interviewer overstepped the mark by suggesting how long she thinks COVID-19 is knocking off people's lives. Undoubtedly it's knocking off a lot of years in some cases, but I think it remains to be seen what the mean/median impact is.
All being well I’m going home tomorrow 24 days is a long time in hospital. Spanish health service excellent despite how it was three weeks ago. Very relaxed now with visiting now allowed although there are still some covid patients left I believe.
Sorry you are still in hospital but very pleased you are on the mend and about to go home. To have had another type of medical problem in the middle of all this must have been very scary, particularly with your wife's problems on top. Sincerely hope things pick up for you from here on.
Eh? Hasn't R4 news done 2 longish interviews with him recently? Must admit hearing the 'political correctness' cliché made me switch off a bit during the last one.
There were also a couple of pieces on the the Parliament channel.
As a young man he helped Keith Joseph write his infamous Edgbaston speech (the one where he said the lower orders shouldn't breed). Since that is now government policy it's not surprising he's getting so much airtime these days.
But the likes of Stewart Lee show that however tolerant the vast majority of us may be, there will always be a subset of bigots for whom the Jew remains an outsider - an object of scorn and derision for their otherness.
And, it seems, they will always have a home in the Guardian.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
The fun will start if someone accidentally builds houses on it.
I bought a 4 acre field some years ago, as it backs onto my garden. £10 000 per acre is the going rate here, but 20-40 times that with planning permission. No one builds on it but me. I have a few sheep on it at present.
At the moment planning permission is a windfall. If councils charged £100k an acre, everyone would be happy and a good source of revenue.
Love the ridge and furrow. Never been ploughed. A relic of the middle ages.
Assume ridge and furrow is similar to lazybeds? Sometimes they're the only evidence of what must have been very old settlements in the Hebrides and Highlands.
The R & f strips are much wider than feannagan - the latter were hand-dug to scrape up othe soilt into something that would grow potatoes. IIRC from what I have seen/read the R & F is more like 10 yards wide - Wikiepedia says 5-22 yards. Individual strips to be allocated to different people but also to allow drainage, the ox and plough going alternately along the length to mound up in the middle.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
The fun will start if someone accidentally builds houses on it.
I bought a 4 acre field some years ago, as it backs onto my garden. £10 000 per acre is the going rate here, but 20-40 times that with planning permission. No one builds on it but me. I have a few sheep on it at present.
At the moment planning permission is a windfall. If councils charged £100k an acre, everyone would be happy and a good source of revenue.
Love the ridge and furrow. Never been ploughed. A relic of the middle ages.
It was ploughed to create the r & f - you mean, no modern tractor ploughing I assume. But I agree, it;'s lovely.
Eh? Hasn't R4 news done 2 longish interviews with him recently? Must admit hearing the 'political correctness' cliché made me switch off a bit during the last one.
There were also a couple of pieces on the the Parliament channel.
As a young man he helped Keith Joseph write his infamous Edgbaston speech (the one where he said the lower orders shouldn't breed). Since that is now government policy it's not surprising he's getting so much airtime these days.
Technically, given the terms of social distancing, it's the policy of Government that nobody not already cohabiting should be breeding until this is all over. However many years that takes.
All being well I’m going home tomorrow 24 days is a long time in hospital. Spanish health service excellent despite how it was three weeks ago. Very relaxed now with visiting now allowed although there are still some covid patients left I believe.
Sorry you are still in hospital but very pleased you are on the mend and about to go home. To have had another type of medical problem in the middle of all this must have been very scary, particularly with your wife's problems on top. Sincerely hope things pick up for you from here on.
It’s been an experience just need to find out how I handle future cycles of chemo. Was lucky to have some one who could put in place 24*7 care for Denise. Whilst not wanting to linger on it I was never tested for covid that I know although they did a. Chest x ray within two hours of admission. Thanks for the best wishes
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
Where can these goons go after their 'greedy lefty hypocrite' ploy was such a massive fail? Gratuitous virtue signalling perhaps, showing off with his orphan donkeys and disabled mum schtick?
I would have though many MoS readers would very much like a paddock next to their house for donkeys and the like. It is a very middle England sort of dream. Looks like a backfire to me.
I've looked for land, seems almost impossible to find a straight up field for sale.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
The fun will start if someone accidentally builds houses on it.
I bought a 4 acre field some years ago, as it backs onto my garden. £10 000 per acre is the going rate here, but 20-40 times that with planning permission. No one builds on it but me. I have a few sheep on it at present.
At the moment planning permission is a windfall. If councils charged £100k an acre, everyone would be happy and a good source of revenue.
Love the ridge and furrow. Never been ploughed. A relic of the middle ages.
Assume ridge and furrow is similar to lazybeds? Sometimes they're the only evidence of what must have been very old settlements in the Hebrides and Highlands.
The R & f strips are much wider than feannagan - the latter were hand-dug to scrape up othe soilt into something that would grow potatoes. IIRC from what I have seen/read the R & F is more like 10 yards wide - Wikiepedia says 5-22 yards. Individual strips to be allocated to different people but also to allow drainage, the ox and plough going alternately along the length to mound up in the middle.
Ah, an ox, beyond the wildest dreams of a humble bodach! Were the lazybeds introduced with the potato or did they predate them?
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
The fun will start if someone accidentally builds houses on it.
I bought a 4 acre field some years ago, as it backs onto my garden. £10 000 per acre is the going rate here, but 20-40 times that with planning permission. No one builds on it but me. I have a few sheep on it at present.
At the moment planning permission is a windfall. If councils charged £100k an acre, everyone would be happy and a good source of revenue.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
The fun will start if someone accidentally builds houses on it.
I bought a 4 acre field some years ago, as it backs onto my garden. £10 000 per acre is the going rate here, but 20-40 times that with planning permission. No one builds on it but me. I have a few sheep on it at present.
At the moment planning permission is a windfall. If councils charged £100k an acre, everyone would be happy and a good source of revenue.
Love the ridge and furrow. Never been ploughed. A relic of the middle ages.
Assume ridge and furrow is similar to lazybeds? Sometimes they're the only evidence of what must have been very old settlements in the Hebrides and Highlands.
The R & f strips are much wider than feannagan - the latter were hand-dug to scrape up othe soilt into something that would grow potatoes. IIRC from what I have seen/read the R & F is more like 10 yards wide - Wikiepedia says 5-22 yards. Individual strips to be allocated to different people but also to allow drainage, the ox and plough going alternately along the length to mound up in the middle.
Ah, an ox, beyond the wildest dreams of a humble bodach! Were the lazybeds introduced with the potato or did they predate them?
I think the ridge and furrow dates from pre enclosure strip farming on the 3 field system, our village was enclosed quite late. The ridges are too wide for potato farming, mostly sheep pasture since.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
The fun will start if someone accidentally builds houses on it.
I bought a 4 acre field some years ago, as it backs onto my garden. £10 000 per acre is the going rate here, but 20-40 times that with planning permission. No one builds on it but me. I have a few sheep on it at present.
At the moment planning permission is a windfall. If councils charged £100k an acre, everyone would be happy and a good source of revenue.
Love the ridge and furrow. Never been ploughed. A relic of the middle ages.
Assume ridge and furrow is similar to lazybeds? Sometimes they're the only evidence of what must have been very old settlements in the Hebrides and Highlands.
The R & f strips are much wider than feannagan - the latter were hand-dug to scrape up othe soilt into something that would grow potatoes. IIRC from what I have seen/read the R & F is more like 10 yards wide - Wikiepedia says 5-22 yards. Individual strips to be allocated to different people but also to allow drainage, the ox and plough going alternately along the length to mound up in the middle.
Ah, an ox, beyond the wildest dreams of a humble bodach! Were the lazybeds introduced with the potato or did they predate them?
IIRC they were also used for oats, soi presumably that might have predated the introduction of the tattie. Difficult to see how otherwise people could have existed there.
"Keir Starmer critics ridiculed for trying to make him look bad for owning a 'donkey sanctuary'"
Including some who spend their spare time resident on PB.
The next step of this Tory disinformation campaign of genius will be a revelation on Monday that Starmer tried to dodge his taxes, substantiated only by a claim that he made a substantial donation to the Dogs Trust when adopting a three legged elderly golden retriever from a rescue centre, accompanied by photos of said dog wagging its tail and specifically targeted for the attention of the over 60s female demographic still distraught from the death of Monty Don's Nigel.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
Where can these goons go after their 'greedy lefty hypocrite' ploy was such a massive fail? Gratuitous virtue signalling perhaps, showing off with his orphan donkeys and disabled mum schtick?
I would have though many MoS readers would very much like a paddock next to their house for donkeys and the like. It is a very middle England sort of dream. Looks like a backfire to me.
I've looked for land, seems almost impossible to find a straight up field for sale.
I agree. By chance I inherited a small field in a historically sensitive landscape - a pain to get it valued for probate as the surveyors fee was out of proportion - but I get an annual rate of return from the tenant farmer on the nominal value of about 5%. I'd buy more like a shot if I oculd ...
Eh? Hasn't R4 news done 2 longish interviews with him recently? Must admit hearing the 'political correctness' cliché made me switch off a bit during the last one.
There were also a couple of pieces on the the Parliament channel.
As a young man he helped Keith Joseph write his infamous Edgbaston speech (the one where he said the lower orders shouldn't breed). Since that is now government policy it's not surprising he's getting so much airtime these days.
Technically, given the terms of social distancing, it's the policy of Government that nobody not already cohabiting should be breeding until this is all over. However many years that takes.
Conception from 2m distance would be a good party trick.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
Where can these goons go after their 'greedy lefty hypocrite' ploy was such a massive fail? Gratuitous virtue signalling perhaps, showing off with his orphan donkeys and disabled mum schtick?
These kind of posts let me remember why I loathe Tories....just when I let my guard down a bit....
Eh? Hasn't R4 news done 2 longish interviews with him recently? Must admit hearing the 'political correctness' cliché made me switch off a bit during the last one.
There were also a couple of pieces on the the Parliament channel.
As a young man he helped Keith Joseph write his infamous Edgbaston speech (the one where he said the lower orders shouldn't breed). Since that is now government policy it's not surprising he's getting so much airtime these days.
Technically, given the terms of social distancing, it's the policy of Government that nobody not already cohabiting should be breeding until this is all over. However many years that takes.
Conception from 2m distance would be a good party trick.
Eh? Hasn't R4 news done 2 longish interviews with him recently? Must admit hearing the 'political correctness' cliché made me switch off a bit during the last one.
There were also a couple of pieces on the the Parliament channel.
As a young man he helped Keith Joseph write his infamous Edgbaston speech (the one where he said the lower orders shouldn't breed). Since that is now government policy it's not surprising he's getting so much airtime these days.
Technically, given the terms of social distancing, it's the policy of Government that nobody not already cohabiting should be breeding until this is all over. However many years that takes.
Conception from 2m distance would be a good party trick.
The footballer Nayim could lob Seaman from 50 yards.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
The fun will start if someone accidentally builds houses on it.
I bought a 4 acre field some years ago, as it backs onto my garden. £10 000 per acre is the going rate here, but 20-40 times that with planning permission. No one builds on it but me. I have a few sheep on it at present.
At the moment planning permission is a windfall. If councils charged £100k an acre, everyone would be happy and a good source of revenue.
Love the ridge and furrow. Never been ploughed. A relic of the middle ages.
Assume ridge and furrow is similar to lazybeds? Sometimes they're the only evidence of what must have been very old settlements in the Hebrides and Highlands.
The R & f strips are much wider than feannagan - the latter were hand-dug to scrape up othe soilt into something that would grow potatoes. IIRC from what I have seen/read the R & F is more like 10 yards wide - Wikiepedia says 5-22 yards. Individual strips to be allocated to different people but also to allow drainage, the ox and plough going alternately along the length to mound up in the middle.
Ah, an ox, beyond the wildest dreams of a humble bodach! Were the lazybeds introduced with the potato or did they predate them?
I think the ridge and furrow dates from pre enclosure strip farming on the 3 field system, our village was enclosed quite late. The ridges are too wide for potato farming, mostly sheep pasture since.
Eh? Hasn't R4 news done 2 longish interviews with him recently? Must admit hearing the 'political correctness' cliché made me switch off a bit during the last one.
There were also a couple of pieces on the the Parliament channel.
As a young man he helped Keith Joseph write his infamous Edgbaston speech (the one where he said the lower orders shouldn't breed). Since that is now government policy it's not surprising he's getting so much airtime these days.
Technically, given the terms of social distancing, it's the policy of Government that nobody not already cohabiting should be breeding until this is all over. However many years that takes.
Conception from 2m distance would be a good party trick.
Whilst achieving that kind of distance and accuracy would indeed be a remarkable feat, any exchange of bodily fluids would strike one as being, at the very least, outside the spirit of the rules.
Eh? Hasn't R4 news done 2 longish interviews with him recently? Must admit hearing the 'political correctness' cliché made me switch off a bit during the last one.
There were also a couple of pieces on the the Parliament channel.
As a young man he helped Keith Joseph write his infamous Edgbaston speech (the one where he said the lower orders shouldn't breed). Since that is now government policy it's not surprising he's getting so much airtime these days.
Technically, given the terms of social distancing, it's the policy of Government that nobody not already cohabiting should be breeding until this is all over. However many years that takes.
Conception from 2m distance would be a good party trick.
Whilst achieving that kind of distance and accuracy would indeed be a remarkable feat, any exchange of bodily fluids would strike one as being, at the very least, outside the spirit of the rules.
And would probably be frowned upon in a public park too.
Golly. I am all for pointing at lefty anti-semites and laughing, but I haven't seen a weaker claim than this. It is a completely pathetic "Foreign names are hilarious, especially when they accidentally contain proper English words" gag, but who knew Tugendhat was a Jewish name, if it is?
The point is that if it were in a right wing paper and the butt of the joke were a left winger's foreign sounding name, I think O'Brien would be up in arms.
We frequently see such double standards on here.
I was told that Boris "literally just said" 'People of Colour', in a sentence that confirmed his White Supremacism, by someone who is now warning Tory MPs to expect to be done for libelling Keir Starmer because they fell for fake news the same as he did!
Tom Tugendhat's father attended the same Private Boarding school as James O'Brien
Eh? Hasn't R4 news done 2 longish interviews with him recently? Must admit hearing the 'political correctness' cliché made me switch off a bit during the last one.
There were also a couple of pieces on the the Parliament channel.
As a young man he helped Keith Joseph write his infamous Edgbaston speech (the one where he said the lower orders shouldn't breed). Since that is now government policy it's not surprising he's getting so much airtime these days.
Technically, given the terms of social distancing, it's the policy of Government that nobody not already cohabiting should be breeding until this is all over. However many years that takes.
Conception from 2m distance would be a good party trick.
Whilst achieving that kind of distance and accuracy would indeed be a remarkable feat, any exchange of bodily fluids would strike one as being, at the very least, outside the spirit of the rules.
And would probably be frowned upon in a public park too.
Oh I don't know, the police would probably be thrilled. After weeks of pestering people for sunbathing, chastising people using park benches for not being in constant motion, and causing tiny girls on pink tricycles to burst into floods of tears after telling them off for only keeping 1.83m distance from pedestrians, at last: an opportunity to make a proper arrest!
Mine is a slightly more even length, although I did miss a bit at the back so had a bit of a rat's tail until I chopped it off.
I have cut my own hair for years. The style I'm sporting in my av is a self-topiary effort. I'm usually cutting extra bits I've missed for several days.
If an Iranian newspaer made a joke about this, would it be racist towards the English?
Why is it "worth noting" at all?
Its at least as worth noting as the fact he bought a field for his mum for £15,000 which apparently is massively newsworthy.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
One of them is a Tory who unashamedly celebrates financial success, the other purports to lead a socialist party that rails against it and in recent years tried to crush it entirely.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
£15k for a field that size shows astute financial acumen to me. Quite a bargain, and a kind gesture for his mum to keep donkeys in.
The fun will start if someone accidentally builds houses on it.
I bought a 4 acre field some years ago, as it backs onto my garden. £10 000 per acre is the going rate here, but 20-40 times that with planning permission. No one builds on it but me. I have a few sheep on it at present.
At the moment planning permission is a windfall. If councils charged £100k an acre, everyone would be happy and a good source of revenue.
Lovely. Are they Leicester Blueface?
I think they are Hardwick sheep. I sub-let the field to keep it grazed. No charge, but the farmer maintains the hedges etc.
I never particularly aspired to buy a field, but when it came up for sale, I wanted it to stay agricultural.
Golly. I am all for pointing at lefty anti-semites and laughing, but I haven't seen a weaker claim than this. It is a completely pathetic "Foreign names are hilarious, especially when they accidentally contain proper English words" gag, but who knew Tugendhat was a Jewish name, if it is?
The point is that if it were in a right wing paper and the butt of the joke were a left winger's foreign sounding name, I think O'Brien would be up in arms.
We frequently see such double standards on here.
I was told that Boris "literally just said" 'People of Colour', in a sentence that confirmed his White Supremacism, by someone who is now warning Tory MPs to expect to be done for libelling Keir Starmer because they fell for fake news the same as he did!
Tom Tugendhat's father attended the same Private Boarding school as James O'Brien
Christ. They’re all posho c*nts, aren’t they? All of them
Isn't this is Catholic thing? Ampleforth?
I’m really REALLY bored of being governed by, or lectured by, or hectored by, anyone who has been to private school. I want a revolution, I want a culling of the Kulaks. They are, above all, useless fuckwits who lost the Empire, so they’re not even very good at what they are meant to do.
It was Attlee, Haileybury and Eden and Macmillan, Eton who gave up most of the Empire in terms of India and Africa. Lord North, Eton also was PM when GB lost the War of Independence and the American colonies.
Golly. I am all for pointing at lefty anti-semites and laughing, but I haven't seen a weaker claim than this. It is a completely pathetic "Foreign names are hilarious, especially when they accidentally contain proper English words" gag, but who knew Tugendhat was a Jewish name, if it is?
The point is that if it were in a right wing paper and the butt of the joke were a left winger's foreign sounding name, I think O'Brien would be up in arms.
We frequently see such double standards on here.
I was told that Boris "literally just said" 'People of Colour', in a sentence that confirmed his White Supremacism, by someone who is now warning Tory MPs to expect to be done for libelling Keir Starmer because they fell for fake news the same as he did!
Tom Tugendhat's father attended the same Private Boarding school as James O'Brien
Christ. They’re all posho c*nts, aren’t they? All of them
Isn't this is Catholic thing? Ampleforth?
I’m really REALLY bored of being governed by, or lectured by, or hectored by, anyone who has been to private school. I want a revolution, I want a culling of the Kulaks. They are, above all, useless fuckwits who lost the Empire, so they’re not even very good at what they are meant to do.
It was Attlee, Haileybury and Eden and Macmillan, Eton who gave up most of the Empire in terms of India and Africa.
Churchill, Harrow wanted to keep the Empire
The die was a bit cast by then. The decline of the Empire (if having an 'Empire' in itself is such a desirable thing) was due to WW1. Which schools did the architects of our WW1 participation attend?
I don't know about anyone else, but I veer between three different attitudes to the Plague:
1. Optimism - either it turns out that this disease has a lower than expected threshold for herd immunity, or a vaccination or drug treatment trial tames it at some point in the next few months 2. Pessimism - we're going to be stuck with the misery of social distancing for years, it's going to destroy the economy and make everyone's lives unbearable. Mass cliff-jumping and wrist-slitting will commence by Christmas at the latest 3. Fatalism - the disease will take off again but attempts to reimpose lockdown will fail because people will have lost all faith in it. Best efforts will be made to protect the vulnerable and will hopefully do some good; much of the rest of the population will get it, and it'll burn itself out by the end of the year
Any evidence supporting (1) gets filed in the "too good to be true" folder, because I'm a glass half empty kind of a character. I spend most of the time pitching between (2) and (3). Whilst my personal circumstances are better than a lot of other people's, this still isn't very much fun.
Top post. That’s pretty much me to a Tee
I don’t think this virus will kill 1% of us. Right now I m terrified of the economic sequelae.
eg 60% of Greek hotels are technically bankrupt, 50,000 Italian restaurants likewise, half of the UK’s pubs and so on. I fear a tsunami of bad debt around the world which will make the Great Depression look like the Anglo-Zanzibar War of 27th August, 1896.
You know, a tsunami of bad debt sucks. People lose money.
But that's life.
The owners of capital make out like bandits when things are going well, and should be first against the wall when things aren't. That's not a bug of capitalism, that's a feature. We allow people to make money, because they are accepting the risks.
Golly. I am all for pointing at lefty anti-semites and laughing, but I haven't seen a weaker claim than this. It is a completely pathetic "Foreign names are hilarious, especially when they accidentally contain proper English words" gag, but who knew Tugendhat was a Jewish name, if it is?
The point is that if it were in a right wing paper and the butt of the joke were a left winger's foreign sounding name, I think O'Brien would be up in arms.
We frequently see such double standards on here.
I was told that Boris "literally just said" 'People of Colour', in a sentence that confirmed his White Supremacism, by someone who is now warning Tory MPs to expect to be done for libelling Keir Starmer because they fell for fake news the same as he did!
Tom Tugendhat's father attended the same Private Boarding school as James O'Brien
Christ. They’re all posho c*nts, aren’t they? All of them
Isn't this is Catholic thing? Ampleforth?
I’m really REALLY bored of being governed by, or lectured by, or hectored by, anyone who has been to private school. I want a revolution, I want a culling of the Kulaks. They are, above all, useless fuckwits who lost the Empire, so they’re not even very good at what they are meant to do.
It was Attlee, Haileybury and Eden and Macmillan, Eton who gave up most of the Empire in terms of India and Africa.
Churchill, Harrow wanted to keep the Empire
The die was a bit cast by then. The decline of the Empire (if having an 'Empire' in itself is such a desirable thing) was due to WW1. Which schools did the architects of our WW1 participation attend?
Even in 1945 the British Empire still included India and most of Africa and most of the Middle East.
Keeping it may have been morally wrong passed then and economically difficult post Suez but it was still going well passed WW1
Golly. I am all for pointing at lefty anti-semites and laughing, but I haven't seen a weaker claim than this. It is a completely pathetic "Foreign names are hilarious, especially when they accidentally contain proper English words" gag, but who knew Tugendhat was a Jewish name, if it is?
The point is that if it were in a right wing paper and the butt of the joke were a left winger's foreign sounding name, I think O'Brien would be up in arms.
We frequently see such double standards on here.
I was told that Boris "literally just said" 'People of Colour', in a sentence that confirmed his White Supremacism, by someone who is now warning Tory MPs to expect to be done for libelling Keir Starmer because they fell for fake news the same as he did!
Tom Tugendhat's father attended the same Private Boarding school as James O'Brien
Christ. They’re all posho c*nts, aren’t they? All of them
Isn't this is Catholic thing? Ampleforth?
I’m really REALLY bored of being governed by, or lectured by, or hectored by, anyone who has been to private school. I want a revolution, I want a culling of the Kulaks. They are, above all, useless fuckwits who lost the Empire, so they’re not even very good at what they are meant to do.
It was Attlee, Haileybury and Eden and Macmillan, Eton who gave up most of the Empire in terms of India and Africa.
Churchill, Harrow wanted to keep the Empire
The die was a bit cast by then. The decline of the Empire (if having an 'Empire' in itself is such a desirable thing) was due to WW1. Which schools did the architects of our WW1 participation attend?
Even in 1945 the British Empire still includes India and most of Africa and most of the Middle East.
Keeping it may have been morally wrong passed then and economically difficult post Suez but it was still going well passed WW1
Yes, absolutely. It was actually at its largest ever geographical extent. But it was no longer (imo) economically viable or politically sustainable. And then WW2 finished it off totally.
I don't know about anyone else, but I veer between three different attitudes to the Plague:
1. Optimism - either it turns out that this disease has a lower than expected threshold for herd immunity, or a vaccination or drug treatment trial tames it at some point in the next few months 2. Pessimism - we're going to be stuck with the misery of social distancing for years, it's going to destroy the economy and make everyone's lives unbearable. Mass cliff-jumping and wrist-slitting will commence by Christmas at the latest 3. Fatalism - the disease will take off again but attempts to reimpose lockdown will fail because people will have lost all faith in it. Best efforts will be made to protect the vulnerable and will hopefully do some good; much of the rest of the population will get it, and it'll burn itself out by the end of the year
Any evidence supporting (1) gets filed in the "too good to be true" folder, because I'm a glass half empty kind of a character. I spend most of the time pitching between (2) and (3). Whilst my personal circumstances are better than a lot of other people's, this still isn't very much fun.
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I don’t think this virus will kill 1% of us. Right now I m terrified of the economic sequelae.
eg 60% of Greek hotels are technically bankrupt, 50,000 Italian restaurants likewise, half of the UK’s pubs and so on. I fear a tsunami of bad debt around the world which will make the Great Depression look like the Anglo-Zanzibar War of 27th August, 1896.
The failure to protect the aged in general and care homes in particular looks like turning into the most expensive public policy blunder in the whole of human history - here and in much of the rest of the world. I've been reviewing a recent ONS publication on the mortality stats for England and fully 83% of all deaths were in those aged over 70. The death rate for those under 70 contracting the disease peaks at 0.7% of all identified cases for the 65-69 cohort, declining to below 0.1% for all age groups under 50.
Basically if we'd told all the nation's pensioners to self-isolate at the start of all this, arranged to have them supplied with free groceries for the entire course of the pandemic, and sealed off the care homes and done likewise, and also bunged every member of staff who works in them £100k each to stay put and not leave for the duration, then the pandemic really would've been no worse than a bad flu season for everybody else and we could've got to herd immunity and been over it by the Summer - all for a sum that, compared to the bill now confronting the Government, would be trivial.
Golly. I am all for pointing at lefty anti-semites and laughing, but I haven't seen a weaker claim than this. It is a completely pathetic "Foreign names are hilarious, especially when they accidentally contain proper English words" gag, but who knew Tugendhat was a Jewish name, if it is?
The point is that if it were in a right wing paper and the butt of the joke were a left winger's foreign sounding name, I think O'Brien would be up in arms.
We frequently see such double standards on here.
I was told that Boris "literally just said" 'People of Colour', in a sentence that confirmed his White Supremacism, by someone who is now warning Tory MPs to expect to be done for libelling Keir Starmer because they fell for fake news the same as he did!
Tom Tugendhat's father attended the same Private Boarding school as James O'Brien
Christ. They’re all posho c*nts, aren’t they? All of them
Isn't this is Catholic thing? Ampleforth?
I’m really REALLY bored of being governed by, or lectured by, or hectored by, anyone who has been to private school. I want a revolution, I want a culling of the Kulaks. They are, above all, useless fuckwits who lost the Empire, so they’re not even very good at what they are meant to do.
It was Attlee, Haileybury and Eden and Macmillan, Eton who gave up most of the Empire in terms of India and Africa.
Churchill, Harrow wanted to keep the Empire
The die was a bit cast by then. The decline of the Empire (if having an 'Empire' in itself is such a desirable thing) was due to WW1. Which schools did the architects of our WW1 participation attend?
Even in 1945 the British Empire still included India and most of Africa and most of the Middle East.
Keeping it may have been morally wrong passed then and economically difficult post Suez but it was still going well passed WW1
The writing was on the wall after WW2.
It became hard to justify having our own undemocratic racist empire, having spent 6 years mobilising those countries to defeat another undemocratic racist empire.
Attlee, Eden MacMillan etc were just recognising the reality that empire was no longer tenable.
I don't know about anyone else, but I veer between three different attitudes to the Plague:
1. Optimism - either it turns out that this disease has a lower than expected threshold for herd immunity, or a vaccination or drug treatment trial tames it at some point in the next few months 2. Pessimism - we're going to be stuck with the misery of social distancing for years, it's going to destroy the economy and make everyone's lives unbearable. Mass cliff-jumping and wrist-slitting will commence by Christmas at the latest 3. Fatalism - the disease will take off again but attempts to reimpose lockdown will fail because people will have lost all faith in it. Best efforts will be made to protect the vulnerable and will hopefully do some good; much of the rest of the population will get it, and it'll burn itself out by the end of the year
Any evidence supporting (1) gets filed in the "too good to be true" folder, because I'm a glass half empty kind of a character. I spend most of the time pitching between (2) and (3). Whilst my personal circumstances are better than a lot of other people's, this still isn't very much fun.
Top post. That’s pretty much me to a Tee
I don’t think this virus will kill 1% of us. Right now I m terrified of the economic sequelae.
eg 60% of Greek hotels are technically bankrupt, 50,000 Italian restaurants likewise, half of the UK’s pubs and so on. I fear a tsunami of bad debt around the world which will make the Great Depression look like the Anglo-Zanzibar War of 27th August, 1896.
The failure to protect the aged in general and care homes in particular looks like turning into the most expensive public policy blunder in the whole of human history - here and in much of the rest of the world. I've been reviewing a recent ONS publication on the mortality stats for England and fully 83% of all deaths were in those aged over 70. The death rate for those under 70 contracting the disease peaks at 0.7% of all identified cases for the 65-69 cohort, declining to below 0.1% for all age groups under 50.
Basically if we'd told all the nation's pensioners to self-isolate at the start of all this, arranged to have them supplied with free groceries for the entire course of the pandemic, and sealed off the care homes and done likewise, and also bunged every member of staff who works in them £100k each to stay put and not leave for the duration, then the pandemic really would've been no worse than a bad flu season for everybody else and we could've got to herd immunity and been over it by the Summer - all for a sum that, compared to the bill now confronting the Government, would be trivial.
Still, hindsight's a wonderful thing, eh?
It was fairly obvious from the beginning that only elderly people and people with serious health conditions should have been subject to the lockdown.
Golly. I am all for pointing at lefty anti-semites and laughing, but I haven't seen a weaker claim than this. It is a completely pathetic "Foreign names are hilarious, especially when they accidentally contain proper English words" gag, but who knew Tugendhat was a Jewish name, if it is?
The point is that if it were in a right wing paper and the butt of the joke were a left winger's foreign sounding name, I think O'Brien would be up in arms.
We frequently see such double standards on here.
I was told that Boris "literally just said" 'People of Colour', in a sentence that confirmed his White Supremacism, by someone who is now warning Tory MPs to expect to be done for libelling Keir Starmer because they fell for fake news the same as he did!
Tom Tugendhat's father attended the same Private Boarding school as James O'Brien
Christ. They’re all posho c*nts, aren’t they? All of them
Isn't this is Catholic thing? Ampleforth?
I’m really REALLY bored of being governed by, or lectured by, or hectored by, anyone who has been to private school. I want a revolution, I want a culling of the Kulaks. They are, above all, useless fuckwits who lost the Empire, so they’re not even very good at what they are meant to do.
It was Attlee, Haileybury and Eden and Macmillan, Eton who gave up most of the Empire in terms of India and Africa.
Churchill, Harrow wanted to keep the Empire
The die was a bit cast by then. The decline of the Empire (if having an 'Empire' in itself is such a desirable thing) was due to WW1. Which schools did the architects of our WW1 participation attend?
Even in 1945 the British Empire still included India and most of Africa and most of the Middle East.
Keeping it may have been morally wrong passed then and economically difficult post Suez but it was still going well passed WW1
The writing was on the wall after WW2.
It became hard to justify having our own undemocratic racist empire, having spent 6 years mobilising those countries to defeat another undemocratic racist empire.
Attlee, Eden MacMillan etc were just recognising the reality that empire was no longer tenable.
Though Halifax of course at one time wanted to do a deal with Hitler to keep the Empire.
Fortunately Churchill, despite his pro Empire beliefs, put defeating Hitler first even if it meant ultimately the loss of the British Empire and the end of the period during which Britain was a superpower, as it had been since the mid 18th century
I don't know about anyone else, but I veer between three different attitudes to the Plague:
1. Optimism - either it turns out that this disease has a lower than expected threshold for herd immunity, or a vaccination or drug treatment trial tames it at some point in the next few months 2. Pessimism - we're going to be stuck with the misery of social distancing for years, it's going to destroy the economy and make everyone's lives unbearable. Mass cliff-jumping and wrist-slitting will commence by Christmas at the latest 3. Fatalism - the disease will take off again but attempts to reimpose lockdown will fail because people will have lost all faith in it. Best efforts will be made to protect the vulnerable and will hopefully do some good; much of the rest of the population will get it, and it'll burn itself out by the end of the year
Any evidence supporting (1) gets filed in the "too good to be true" folder, because I'm a glass half empty kind of a character. I spend most of the time pitching between (2) and (3). Whilst my personal circumstances are better than a lot of other people's, this still isn't very much fun.
Top post. That’s pretty much me to a Tee
I don’t think this virus will kill 1% of us. Right now I m terrified of the economic sequelae.
eg 60% of Greek hotels are technically bankrupt, 50,000 Italian restaurants likewise, half of the UK’s pubs and so on. I fear a tsunami of bad debt around the world which will make the Great Depression look like the Anglo-Zanzibar War of 27th August, 1896.
The failure to protect the aged in general and care homes in particular looks like turning into the most expensive public policy blunder in the whole of human history - here and in much of the rest of the world. I've been reviewing a recent ONS publication on the mortality stats for England and fully 83% of all deaths were in those aged over 70. The death rate for those under 70 contracting the disease peaks at 0.7% of all identified cases for the 65-69 cohort, declining to below 0.1% for all age groups under 50.
Basically if we'd told all the nation's pensioners to self-isolate at the start of all this, arranged to have them supplied with free groceries for the entire course of the pandemic, and sealed off the care homes and done likewise, and also bunged every member of staff who works in them £100k each to stay put and not leave for the duration, then the pandemic really would've been no worse than a bad flu season for everybody else and we could've got to herd immunity and been over it by the Summer - all for a sum that, compared to the bill now confronting the Government, would be trivial.
Still, hindsight's a wonderful thing, eh?
I don't think it possible to protect carehomes. Despite the varying competence and efforts of various countries, infections in care-homes have been pretty universal.
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The important thing is the statistics on usage - In God we trust. All others bring data.
Sunak having 12 houses isn't worth noting though
As it remains our "civic duty" not to use public transport, that will mean the taxpayer will be paying for empty trains to travel round and up and down the network that we aren't supposed to be using.
This is grade A lunacy and part of a silly political point Boris Johnson and Grant Shapps are trying to make at Khan's expense. Forcing him to run empty trains and wasting taxpayers' money so doing is part of the reason I could never support the current bunch of nunbskulls running the country.
I presume this is part of London's "punishment" for having the temerity to back Khan rather than Zac Goldsmith in 2016.
Capacity increase has to lead any increase in usage.
Both are rich, but only one is a hypocrite.
What this means is that we over-estimate the risks of a pandemic and underestimate those of global warming; and we over-react in our responses to the former, and under-react in our responses to the latter.
'Bell-End in Massive Election Cock-Up'
Great news, hope you are back to 100% soon.
I'm sure you're not counting his wife's property as his.
I don't know. If you're reintroducing the congestion charge - while keeping capacity down to 15 percent - it seems like an unplanned or planned cash grab.
And, it seems, they will always have a home in the Guardian.
https://twitter.com/JewishChron/status/1262034634617094145
However the best Sunak could likely do is be a glossy frontman for WTO terms Brexit
At the moment planning permission is a windfall. If councils charged £100k an acre, everyone would be happy and a good source of revenue.
He accidentally acquired planning permission for a field. Some said it had something to do with a friend from nursery who became a planning inspector...
Turned up in the pub one night buying drinks... I can still feel the headache. He was so happy to have money to be generous with.
1. He had a long interview on Radio 4 a week ago that can be listened to here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86P7EEJeNKM
2. He also had another long-ish piece on Mar 30 that can be found here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHE3OerDKEY
There were also a couple of pieces on the the Parliament channel.
The interviewer overstepped the mark by suggesting how long she thinks COVID-19 is knocking off people's lives. Undoubtedly it's knocking off a lot of years in some cases, but I think it remains to be seen what the mean/median impact is.
Were the lazybeds introduced with the potato or did they predate them?
Daily Mail Online
This is going to be the most brutal campaign in American history.
I hope Biden wants to get in the gutter and fight.
"Keir Starmer critics ridiculed for trying to make him look bad for owning a 'donkey sanctuary'"
Including some who spend their spare time resident on PB.
The next step of this Tory disinformation campaign of genius will be a revelation on Monday that Starmer tried to dodge his taxes, substantiated only by a claim that he made a substantial donation to the Dogs Trust when adopting a three legged elderly golden retriever from a rescue centre, accompanied by photos of said dog wagging its tail and specifically targeted for the attention of the over 60s female demographic still distraught from the death of Monty Don's Nigel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znlU8nR5hI8
Edit: I see OnlyLivingBoy has been on the case.
https://twitter.com/SarahDawkins23/status/1262106177384648706
*weeks
I never particularly aspired to buy a field, but when it came up for sale, I wanted it to stay agricultural.
Churchill, Harrow wanted to keep the Empire
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1262122252142874625?s=19
But that's life.
The owners of capital make out like bandits when things are going well, and should be first against the wall when things aren't. That's not a bug of capitalism, that's a feature. We allow people to make money, because they are accepting the risks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR3uA2eLgbk&lc=UgyKUp4QABsszrOgUmB4AaABAg.98lZPn_cMbj98lk-jiYvuf
Keeping it may have been morally wrong passed then and economically difficult post Suez but it was still going well passed WW1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvUQcnfwUUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUhlRoBL8M
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1262125043527671808?s=19
Basically if we'd told all the nation's pensioners to self-isolate at the start of all this, arranged to have them supplied with free groceries for the entire course of the pandemic, and sealed off the care homes and done likewise, and also bunged every member of staff who works in them £100k each to stay put and not leave for the duration, then the pandemic really would've been no worse than a bad flu season for everybody else and we could've got to herd immunity and been over it by the Summer - all for a sum that, compared to the bill now confronting the Government, would be trivial.
Still, hindsight's a wonderful thing, eh?
It became hard to justify having our own undemocratic racist empire, having spent 6 years mobilising those countries to defeat another undemocratic racist empire.
Attlee, Eden MacMillan etc were just recognising the reality that empire was no longer tenable.
Fortunately Churchill, despite his pro Empire beliefs, put defeating Hitler first even if it meant ultimately the loss of the British Empire and the end of the period during which Britain was a superpower, as it had been since the mid 18th century