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edited June 25 in General

imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Harris retains her strong favourite position in the Democratic VP betting with Susan Rice now second favourite

I have a very long history of always losing money on the vice presidential choices in American election campaigns. This is not something that is decided by primaries or elections of some form but is the personal choice of the presumptive nominee in this case Joe Biden.

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  • ClippPClippP Posts: 268
    First
  • MattWMattW Posts: 3,738
    Second
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 6,036
    "Wirecard collapses into insolvency

    Auditor EY says it found clear indications of ‘elaborate and sophisticated fraud’ at German payments company"

    https://www.ft.com/content/ac949729-6167-4b6c-ac3f-f0aa71aca193
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 29,154
    This isn’t relevant, but I’m posting it because I like it so much.
    Nigelb said:

    .

    ydoethur said:

    It would be nice to have a competent Shadow Education Sec, perhaps somebody who was a teacher would be a good start

    Ydoethur's got his hand up!
    Actually, I wouldn’t necessarily agree. Being a good minister is very different from being a good teacher.

    The best education secretary of the last 40 years was John McGregor. Because although he knew little about education he was willing to learn.

    If Gove and Morgan were the worst by a distance, then Estelle Morris is third. Because however well meaning, she was also incompetent.

    And she was a teacher.
    With all due respect, I think you a little more able than Estelle.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 22,333
    ydoethur said:

    This isn’t relevant, but I’m posting it because I like it so much.

    Nigelb said:

    .

    ydoethur said:

    It would be nice to have a competent Shadow Education Sec, perhaps somebody who was a teacher would be a good start

    Ydoethur's got his hand up!
    Actually, I wouldn’t necessarily agree. Being a good minister is very different from being a good teacher.

    The best education secretary of the last 40 years was John McGregor. Because although he knew little about education he was willing to learn.

    If Gove and Morgan were the worst by a distance, then Estelle Morris is third. Because however well meaning, she was also incompetent.

    And she was a teacher.
    With all due respect, I think you a little more able than Estelle.
    Well it beats being compared to Miss Havisham.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 29,154
    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    This isn’t relevant, but I’m posting it because I like it so much.

    Nigelb said:

    .

    ydoethur said:

    It would be nice to have a competent Shadow Education Sec, perhaps somebody who was a teacher would be a good start

    Ydoethur's got his hand up!
    Actually, I wouldn’t necessarily agree. Being a good minister is very different from being a good teacher.

    The best education secretary of the last 40 years was John McGregor. Because although he knew little about education he was willing to learn.

    If Gove and Morgan were the worst by a distance, then Estelle Morris is third. Because however well meaning, she was also incompetent.

    And she was a teacher.
    With all due respect, I think you a little more able than Estelle.
    Well it beats being compared to Miss Havisham.
    That would be a pip.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 73,082
    Demings would be the better choice, from Florida, a key swing state, rather than the safe Democratic areas of California and DC Like Harris and Rice
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 29,154
    Andy_JS said:

    "Wirecard collapses into insolvency

    Auditor EY says it found clear indications of ‘elaborate and sophisticated fraud’ at German payments company"

    https://www.ft.com/content/ac949729-6167-4b6c-ac3f-f0aa71aca193

    Ouch. This does not look like a nice situation. Two German banks and two Dutch banks on the hook for €200 million before we start.

    I don’t think heads are going to stop rolling with Wirecard...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 29,154
    HYUFD said:

    Demings would be the better choice, from Florida, a key swing state, rather than the safe Democratic areas of California and DC Like Harris and Rice

    Paging @Hyufd -

    I think your book has just hijacked your account.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 31,378
    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Wirecard collapses into insolvency

    Auditor EY says it found clear indications of ‘elaborate and sophisticated fraud’ at German payments company"

    https://www.ft.com/content/ac949729-6167-4b6c-ac3f-f0aa71aca193

    Ouch. This does not look like a nice situation. Two German banks and two Dutch banks on the hook for €200 million before we start.

    I don’t think heads are going to stop rolling with Wirecard...
    Full credit to the FT, who has (alone of the big financial newspapers) pursued this story doggedly and despite multiple legal threats.

    No credit at all to the German stock market regulator, BAFIN, who essentially tried to shut down all criticism of Wirecard, and attempted to ban short selling of the stock.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 22,333
    HYUFD said:

    Demings would be the better choice, from Florida, a key swing state, rather than the safe Democratic areas of California and DC Like Harris and Rice

    I’m not entirely convinced you understand the whole VP pick thing.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 82,435
    edited June 25
    It's coming home, it's coming home, football's coming home.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 22,333
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    This isn’t relevant, but I’m posting it because I like it so much.

    Nigelb said:

    .

    ydoethur said:

    It would be nice to have a competent Shadow Education Sec, perhaps somebody who was a teacher would be a good start

    Ydoethur's got his hand up!
    Actually, I wouldn’t necessarily agree. Being a good minister is very different from being a good teacher.

    The best education secretary of the last 40 years was John McGregor. Because although he knew little about education he was willing to learn.

    If Gove and Morgan were the worst by a distance, then Estelle Morris is third. Because however well meaning, she was also incompetent.

    And she was a teacher.
    With all due respect, I think you a little more able than Estelle.
    Well it beats being compared to Miss Havisham.
    That would be a pip.
    A well forged pun.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 31,378
    HYUFD said:

    Demings would be the better choice, from Florida, a key swing state, rather than the safe Democratic areas of California and DC Like Harris and Rice

    I think Biden's number one priority is to find a VP candidate who is (a) experienced enough to step into his shoes, and (b) does not scare off any moderate voters.

    That's why Harris is the favourite. She's the conservative choice.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 35,177
    Does the Premier League have VAR since its resumed or has it been dropped for the rest of the season?

    Rather enjoying the game tonight having no pressure on it. Chelsea win or draw we win the League, City win we have the chance to win the League at the Etihad. I'm OK with either result.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 35,177
    Chelsea!!!
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 14,157

    Does the Premier League have VAR since its resumed or has it been dropped for the rest of the season?

    Rather enjoying the game tonight having no pressure on it. Chelsea win or draw we win the League, City win we have the chance to win the League at the Etihad. I'm OK with either result.

    VAR still around.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 82,435
    edited June 25
    tlg86 said:

    Does the Premier League have VAR since its resumed or has it been dropped for the rest of the season?

    Rather enjoying the game tonight having no pressure on it. Chelsea win or draw we win the League, City win we have the chance to win the League at the Etihad. I'm OK with either result.

    VAR still around.
    Goal line technology was furloughed for the first game back though.

    It might end up relegating the Dildo Brothers.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 29,154
    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    This isn’t relevant, but I’m posting it because I like it so much.

    Nigelb said:

    .

    ydoethur said:

    It would be nice to have a competent Shadow Education Sec, perhaps somebody who was a teacher would be a good start

    Ydoethur's got his hand up!
    Actually, I wouldn’t necessarily agree. Being a good minister is very different from being a good teacher.

    The best education secretary of the last 40 years was John McGregor. Because although he knew little about education he was willing to learn.

    If Gove and Morgan were the worst by a distance, then Estelle Morris is third. Because however well meaning, she was also incompetent.

    And she was a teacher.
    With all due respect, I think you a little more able than Estelle.
    Well it beats being compared to Miss Havisham.
    That would be a pip.
    A well forged pun.
    I’ll let you keep that in your Pocket.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 31,378
    Just as a matter of interest, are there any Chelsea fans on PB?
  • Novara are crazy.

    They had TWO elections to win, they fucked it up. Can they just fuck off
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 35,177

    It's coming home, it's coming home, football's coming home.

    Guessing your footage is running a minute or two ahead of mine 🙈
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 3,643

    Does the Premier League have VAR since its resumed or has it been dropped for the rest of the season?

    Rather enjoying the game tonight having no pressure on it. Chelsea win or draw we win the League, City win we have the chance to win the League at the Etihad. I'm OK with either result.

    VAR is still being used - Son had a goal chalked off on Tuesday after his left foot was found to be one millimetre in front of the West Ham centre-back’s arse.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 35,177
    rcs1000 said:

    Just as a matter of interest, are there any Chelsea fans on PB?

    Tonight?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 82,435
    rcs1000 said:

    Just as a matter of interest, are there any Chelsea fans on PB?

    George Osborne.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 3,643

    Chelsea!!!

    Chelsea!!!

    So City must score at least twice to prevent the title going to Anfield this evening?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 22,333
    .
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    This isn’t relevant, but I’m posting it because I like it so much.

    Nigelb said:

    .

    ydoethur said:

    It would be nice to have a competent Shadow Education Sec, perhaps somebody who was a teacher would be a good start

    Ydoethur's got his hand up!
    Actually, I wouldn’t necessarily agree. Being a good minister is very different from being a good teacher.

    The best education secretary of the last 40 years was John McGregor. Because although he knew little about education he was willing to learn.

    If Gove and Morgan were the worst by a distance, then Estelle Morris is third. Because however well meaning, she was also incompetent.

    And she was a teacher.
    With all due respect, I think you a little more able than Estelle.
    Well it beats being compared to Miss Havisham.
    That would be a pip.
    A well forged pun.
    I’ll let you keep that in your Pocket.
    Well that is the nature of Portable Property.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 29,154

    Novara are crazy.

    They had TWO elections to win, they fucked it up. Can they just fuck off

    Don’t worry, they’ll Peters out.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 54,582
    DougSeal said:
    I accuse many people of being childish. Trump is one of the few who genuinely seems like a giant, maladjusted baby. And yet it is what tens of millions wanted and still want.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 54,582

    Off to check on the odds on Ian Lavery succeeding Sir Keir Starmer?

    Leadership challenge? From the people offended at people challenging Corbyn?
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 35,177
    Who would have guessed in 1996 that "30 years of hurt" in Football's Coming Home wouldn't refer to England?
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 3,643
    DougSeal said:
    Good stuff.

    Biden is a bruiser.

    Liking the ‘whining child’ line - the Trumptons don’t like it up em.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 82,435

    It's coming home, it's coming home, football's coming home.

    Guessing your footage is running a minute or two ahead of mine 🙈
    I am watching on Sky.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 54,582
    DougSeal said:
    He looks different, shiny and smooth.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 35,177

    It's coming home, it's coming home, football's coming home.

    Guessing your footage is running a minute or two ahead of mine 🙈
    I am watching on Sky.
    I'm . . . not.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 29,154
    Nigelb said:

    .

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    This isn’t relevant, but I’m posting it because I like it so much.

    Nigelb said:

    .

    ydoethur said:

    It would be nice to have a competent Shadow Education Sec, perhaps somebody who was a teacher would be a good start

    Ydoethur's got his hand up!
    Actually, I wouldn’t necessarily agree. Being a good minister is very different from being a good teacher.

    The best education secretary of the last 40 years was John McGregor. Because although he knew little about education he was willing to learn.

    If Gove and Morgan were the worst by a distance, then Estelle Morris is third. Because however well meaning, she was also incompetent.

    And she was a teacher.
    With all due respect, I think you a little more able than Estelle.
    Well it beats being compared to Miss Havisham.
    That would be a pip.
    A well forged pun.
    I’ll let you keep that in your Pocket.
    Well that is the nature of Portable Property.
    OK, I will admit, I don’t get that reference. Is it a very obscure passage of Great Expectations I have forgotten, or some kind of Twist?
  • BannedinnParisBannedinnParis Posts: 873
    kle4 said:

    Off to check on the odds on Ian Lavery succeeding Sir Keir Starmer?

    Leadership challenge? From the people offended at people challenging Corbyn?
    that would be a definition of irony
  • Why can't these Corbynites just fuck off and join the Tories?
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 35,177

    Why can't these Corbynites just fuck off and join the Tories?

    Isn't it remarkable how the people who demanded absolute loyalty to a Labour leader who had himself rebelled against his own party more than virtually any other MP in history suddenly aren't feeling so absolutely loyal anymore?

    I wonder why?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 46,935
    edited June 25
    Covid is going bigly in lots of states now. Florida, Texas and California in a 3 way tussle to see who can outdo each other for the bigly of bigliest.

    History books will be written about how the continent of the Americas did everything possible wrong.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 35,177
    🤦🏻‍♂️

    There's just no arguing with stupid is there?
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 35,177

    Covid is going bigly in lots of states now. Florida, Texas and California in a 3 way tussle to see who can outdo each other.

    Its gonna be huge.
  • Ave_itAve_it Posts: 2,215

    Why can't these Corbynites just fuck off and join the Tories?

    Or LDs under Layla? They'll love that! :lol:
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 22,333
    edited June 25
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    .

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    This isn’t relevant, but I’m posting it because I like it so much.

    Nigelb said:

    .

    ydoethur said:

    It would be nice to have a competent Shadow Education Sec, perhaps somebody who was a teacher would be a good start

    Ydoethur's got his hand up!
    Actually, I wouldn’t necessarily agree. Being a good minister is very different from being a good teacher.

    The best education secretary of the last 40 years was John McGregor. Because although he knew little about education he was willing to learn.

    If Gove and Morgan were the worst by a distance, then Estelle Morris is third. Because however well meaning, she was also incompetent.

    And she was a teacher.
    With all due respect, I think you a little more able than Estelle.
    Well it beats being compared to Miss Havisham.
    That would be a pip.
    A well forged pun.
    I’ll let you keep that in your Pocket.
    Well that is the nature of Portable Property.
    OK, I will admit, I don’t get that reference. Is it a very obscure passage of Great Expectations I have forgotten, or some kind of Twist?
    And you probably thought the “aged P” referred to one of our older posters ?

    Portable property is the constant obsession of his son and Jaggers’ assistant, the splendid Wemmick.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 2,726
    Before a play I was in at uni an Irish member of the cast came in in high dudgeon about a letter to Cherwell that day which cast doubt on the innocence of the Guildford 4. Another member of the cast piped up to say “yes, I wrote it”. We nearly didn’t go on that night.

  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 7,128
    A challenge from the Left would be a gift to Starmer. He's gonna be another Kinnock I reckon.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 73,082

    Covid is going bigly in lots of states now. Florida, Texas and California in a 3 way tussle to see who can outdo each other for the bigly of bigliest.

    History books will be written about how the continent of the Americas did everything possible wrong.

    Yet of the top 5 nations by Covid deaths per head, Belgium, the UK, Spain, Italy and Sweden, not 1 is in the Americas
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 29,154
    What is wrong with these people?

    That’s even more batshit crazy than that racist nutter up at Cambridge.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 33,815

    Why can't these Corbynites just fuck off and join the Tories?

    We do not want them.

    It was not such a long time ago you wanted Corbyn as PM
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 46,935
    edited June 25
    HYUFD said:

    Covid is going bigly in lots of states now. Florida, Texas and California in a 3 way tussle to see who can outdo each other for the bigly of bigliest.

    History books will be written about how the continent of the Americas did everything possible wrong.

    Yet of the top 5 nations by Covid deaths per head, Belgium, the UK, Spain, Italy and Sweden, not 1 is in the Americas
    Its not over....half the US is just getting started and a quarter are having a second wave

    And as for the likes of Mexico and Brazil, figures about as reliable as the Chinese ones.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 33,815

    Covid is going bigly in lots of states now. Florida, Texas and California in a 3 way tussle to see who can outdo each other.

    Its gonna be huge.
    It is very scary for the US
  • OllyTOllyT Posts: 3,769
    edited June 25

    It's coming home, it's coming home, football's coming home.

    It's taken so long it must have a bloody good memory, it might get lost en route!
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 73,082
    kle4 said:

    Off to check on the odds on Ian Lavery succeeding Sir Keir Starmer?

    Leadership challenge? From the people offended at people challenging Corbyn?
    Starmer trounced Long Bailey 56% to 27%, he is secure and has a mandate to cleanse the hard left from Labour
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 3,643

    It's coming home, it's coming home, football's coming home.

    Guessing your footage is running a minute or two ahead of mine 🙈
    I am watching on Sky.
    You’re not.

    It’s on BT Sport.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 29,154
    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    .

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    This isn’t relevant, but I’m posting it because I like it so much.

    Nigelb said:

    .

    ydoethur said:

    It would be nice to have a competent Shadow Education Sec, perhaps somebody who was a teacher would be a good start

    Ydoethur's got his hand up!
    Actually, I wouldn’t necessarily agree. Being a good minister is very different from being a good teacher.

    The best education secretary of the last 40 years was John McGregor. Because although he knew little about education he was willing to learn.

    If Gove and Morgan were the worst by a distance, then Estelle Morris is third. Because however well meaning, she was also incompetent.

    And she was a teacher.
    With all due respect, I think you a little more able than Estelle.
    Well it beats being compared to Miss Havisham.
    That would be a pip.
    A well forged pun.
    I’ll let you keep that in your Pocket.
    Well that is the nature of Portable Property.
    OK, I will admit, I don’t get that reference. Is it a very obscure passage of Great Expectations I have forgotten, or some kind of Twist?
    And you probably thought the “aged P” referred to one of our older posters ?

    Portable property is the constant obsession of his son and Jaggers’ assistant, the splendid Wemmick.
    Ah, right. No, I didn’t remember that bit, but I haven’t read it for 25 years so I will forgive myself.

    I remember the aged P, of course. And the fishing rod at the wedding.

    For the rest, having not read something through since my teens I’m having hard times remembering it all.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 73,082
    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Demings would be the better choice, from Florida, a key swing state, rather than the safe Democratic areas of California and DC Like Harris and Rice

    I think Biden's number one priority is to find a VP candidate who is (a) experienced enough to step into his shoes, and (b) does not scare off any moderate voters.

    That's why Harris is the favourite. She's the conservative choice.
    Her prosecution record could ironically scare off African Americans
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 35,177

    Covid is going bigly in lots of states now. Florida, Texas and California in a 3 way tussle to see who can outdo each other.

    Its gonna be huge.
    It is very scary for the US
    They've flattened the curve.

  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 33,815

    It's coming home, it's coming home, football's coming home.

    Guessing your footage is running a minute or two ahead of mine 🙈
    I am watching on Sky.
    You’re not.

    It’s on BT Sport.
    On Sky
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 35,177

    It's coming home, it's coming home, football's coming home.

    Guessing your footage is running a minute or two ahead of mine 🙈
    I am watching on Sky.
    You’re not.

    It’s on BT Sport.
    Which can be viewed on a Sky box.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 35,177
    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Demings would be the better choice, from Florida, a key swing state, rather than the safe Democratic areas of California and DC Like Harris and Rice

    I think Biden's number one priority is to find a VP candidate who is (a) experienced enough to step into his shoes, and (b) does not scare off any moderate voters.

    That's why Harris is the favourite. She's the conservative choice.
    Her prosecution record could ironically scare off African Americans
    Not when the alternative is Trump.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 47,163

    Covid is going bigly in lots of states now. Florida, Texas and California in a 3 way tussle to see who can outdo each other.

    Its gonna be huge.
    It is very scary for the US
    They've flattened the curve.

    How have tests changed? I think it's been pretty stable.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 35,177
    Commentator just said in halftime chat that Chelsea have not lost a home game they were leading at half time in nine years. That's an impressive record.
  • TomsToms Posts: 1,913

    Covid is going bigly in lots of states now. Florida, Texas and California in a 3 way tussle to see who can outdo each other.

    Its gonna be huge.
    It is very scary for the US
    Speaking of the virus, are Bournemouth beach and Brixton good examples of Boris's reference to good British common sense?
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 35,177
    Toms said:

    Covid is going bigly in lots of states now. Florida, Texas and California in a 3 way tussle to see who can outdo each other.

    Its gonna be huge.
    It is very scary for the US
    Speaking of the virus, are Bournemouth beach and Brixton good examples of Boris's reference to good British common sense?
    Any images I've seen that are zoomed in people are socially distanced. Zoomed out it looks like a crowd but that's misleading.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 73,082

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Demings would be the better choice, from Florida, a key swing state, rather than the safe Democratic areas of California and DC Like Harris and Rice

    I think Biden's number one priority is to find a VP candidate who is (a) experienced enough to step into his shoes, and (b) does not scare off any moderate voters.

    That's why Harris is the favourite. She's the conservative choice.
    Her prosecution record could ironically scare off African Americans
    Not when the alternative is Trump.
    The one group Trump is polling with higher than 2016 is African Americans
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 22,333
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    .

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    This isn’t relevant, but I’m posting it because I like it so much.

    Nigelb said:

    .

    ydoethur said:

    It would be nice to have a competent Shadow Education Sec, perhaps somebody who was a teacher would be a good start

    Ydoethur's got his hand up!
    Actually, I wouldn’t necessarily agree. Being a good minister is very different from being a good teacher.

    The best education secretary of the last 40 years was John McGregor. Because although he knew little about education he was willing to learn.

    If Gove and Morgan were the worst by a distance, then Estelle Morris is third. Because however well meaning, she was also incompetent.

    And she was a teacher.
    With all due respect, I think you a little more able than Estelle.
    Well it beats being compared to Miss Havisham.
    That would be a pip.
    A well forged pun.
    I’ll let you keep that in your Pocket.
    Well that is the nature of Portable Property.
    OK, I will admit, I don’t get that reference. Is it a very obscure passage of Great Expectations I have forgotten, or some kind of Twist?
    And you probably thought the “aged P” referred to one of our older posters ?

    Portable property is the constant obsession of his son and Jaggers’ assistant, the splendid Wemmick.
    Ah, right. No, I didn’t remember that bit, but I haven’t read it for 25 years so I will forgive myself.

    I remember the aged P, of course. And the fishing rod at the wedding.

    For the rest, having not read something through since my teens I’m having hard times remembering it all.
    It’s a curiosity that you’ve not felt the need to reread it, but fair point.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 73,082

    HYUFD said:

    Covid is going bigly in lots of states now. Florida, Texas and California in a 3 way tussle to see who can outdo each other for the bigly of bigliest.

    History books will be written about how the continent of the Americas did everything possible wrong.

    Yet of the top 5 nations by Covid deaths per head, Belgium, the UK, Spain, Italy and Sweden, not 1 is in the Americas
    Its not over....half the US is just getting started and a quarter are having a second wave

    And as for the likes of Mexico and Brazil, figures about as reliable as the Chinese ones.
    China and Germany seem to have had second waves judging by reports in the last fortnight
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 35,177
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Demings would be the better choice, from Florida, a key swing state, rather than the safe Democratic areas of California and DC Like Harris and Rice

    I think Biden's number one priority is to find a VP candidate who is (a) experienced enough to step into his shoes, and (b) does not scare off any moderate voters.

    That's why Harris is the favourite. She's the conservative choice.
    Her prosecution record could ironically scare off African Americans
    Not when the alternative is Trump.
    The one group Trump is polling with higher than 2016 is African Americans
    Dead cat bounce. He's not winning any significant percentage.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 26,675

    Toms said:

    Covid is going bigly in lots of states now. Florida, Texas and California in a 3 way tussle to see who can outdo each other.

    Its gonna be huge.
    It is very scary for the US
    Speaking of the virus, are Bournemouth beach and Brixton good examples of Boris's reference to good British common sense?
    Any images I've seen that are zoomed in people are socially distanced. Zoomed out it looks like a crowd but that's misleading.
    The numerous beach fights and assaults reported yesterday afternoon and evening took place with all the protagonists one metre plus apart?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 22,333
    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Demings would be the better choice, from Florida, a key swing state, rather than the safe Democratic areas of California and DC Like Harris and Rice

    I think Biden's number one priority is to find a VP candidate who is (a) experienced enough to step into his shoes, and (b) does not scare off any moderate voters.

    That's why Harris is the favourite. She's the conservative choice.
    Her prosecution record could ironically scare off African Americans
    Unlikely.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/23/kamala-harris-gop-police-336150

    (Though I acknowledge I’m talking my own book.)
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 14,157
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 5,278
    Had a blissful day in the Lake District (good). Then found out my furlough is being extended (bad). Then heard about the RLB fiasco (sensational). Must say that the reaction from the psychotic left is genuinely hilarious.

    Starmer is going to have to eexpel every man Jack of them. Or he is pandering to the anti-semites like his predecessor...
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 26,675

    Covid is going bigly in lots of states now. Florida, Texas and California in a 3 way tussle to see who can outdo each other.

    Its gonna be huge.
    It is very scary for the US
    Everything is bigger in America.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 54,582
    dixiedean said:

    A challenge from the Left would be a gift to Starmer. He's gonna be another Kinnock I reckon.

    Nobody's dumb enough to do it now, for the sake of RLB who, without being mean to her, is not exactly a colossal figure in the party's internal myths.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 46,935
    I see Piers Moron is outraged about Bournemouth beach....now if it had been a BLM beach party, he would be finding a way of excusing it.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 11,578
    Regarding Bojo's plane - to make a cheap point, I think we need a grovelling apology and promise to be good in future from @williamglenn, as he said we'd be getting nothing like the 'subtle' French Presidential plane design, but it appears we have more or less a carbon copy of that design but with the Union flag.

    Personally I think it looks quite nice, but I'm rather underwhelmed. It isn't Austin Powers *enough* for £900,000 as far as I am concerned. I expect to uncontrollably burst out singing Rule Britannia when I see it for that money. The person who said it just looks like a standard British Airways' jumbo is pretty on the mark.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 73,082
    Nigelb said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Demings would be the better choice, from Florida, a key swing state, rather than the safe Democratic areas of California and DC Like Harris and Rice

    I think Biden's number one priority is to find a VP candidate who is (a) experienced enough to step into his shoes, and (b) does not scare off any moderate voters.

    That's why Harris is the favourite. She's the conservative choice.
    Her prosecution record could ironically scare off African Americans
    Unlikely.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/23/kamala-harris-gop-police-336150

    (Though I acknowledge I’m talking my own book.)
    https://theappeal.org/kamala-harris-criminal-justice-record-killed-her-presidential-run/
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 26,675
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Covid is going bigly in lots of states now. Florida, Texas and California in a 3 way tussle to see who can outdo each other for the bigly of bigliest.

    History books will be written about how the continent of the Americas did everything possible wrong.

    Yet of the top 5 nations by Covid deaths per head, Belgium, the UK, Spain, Italy and Sweden, not 1 is in the Americas
    Its not over....half the US is just getting started and a quarter are having a second wave

    And as for the likes of Mexico and Brazil, figures about as reliable as the Chinese ones.
    China and Germany seem to have had second waves judging by reports in the last fortnight
    Are you able to tell the difference between local secondary outbreaks and a second wave?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 73,082
    dixiedean said:

    A challenge from the Left would be a gift to Starmer. He's gonna be another Kinnock I reckon.

    Benn challenged Kinnock for the leadership in 1988, Kinnock won 88% to 11% for Benn
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 10,905

    I see Piers Moron is outraged about Bournemouth beach....now if it had been a BLM beach party, he would be finding a way of excusing it.

    Or more specifically if his son went
  • To be honest Peake distancing herself from her own comments just makes RLB look worse.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 47,163
    So it was conspiracy theory bollocks then.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 54,582
    HYUFD said:

    dixiedean said:

    A challenge from the Left would be a gift to Starmer. He's gonna be another Kinnock I reckon.

    Benn challenged Kinnock for the leadership in 1988, Kinnock won 88% to 11% for Benn
    The wierd thing is I doubt it is a close run thing as to which one is more idolised, and idealised, among party members today.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 14,157
    Go KDB!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 22,333

    Regarding Bojo's plane - to make a cheap point, I think we need a grovelling apology and promise to be good in future from @williamglenn, as he said we'd be getting nothing like the 'subtle' French Presidential plane design, but it appears we have more or less a carbon copy of that design but with the Union flag.

    Personally I think it looks quite nice, but I'm rather underwhelmed. It isn't Austin Powers *enough* for £900,000 as far as I am concerned. I expect to uncontrollably burst out singing Rule Britannia when I see it for that money. The person who said it just looks like a standard British Airways' jumbo is pretty on the mark.

    All of which rather misses the point, which is that Boris just blagged himself a personal jet, and convinced you that it’s costing less than a million.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 35,177
    RobD said:

    So it was conspiracy theory bollocks then.
    Antisemitic conspiracy theory bollocks.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 11,578
    kle4 said:

    DougSeal said:
    He looks different, shiny and smooth.
    That isn't different, it's how he's looked for quite a while. He's tight as a drum. They've pulled his face so tight the skin is virtually translucent. Terrible idea. Doesn't make him look any younger, it makes him look older if anything.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 17,766
    tlg86 said:
    The paper employing Johann Hari making stuff up. Say it ain’t so!
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 35,177

    Regarding Bojo's plane - to make a cheap point, I think we need a grovelling apology and promise to be good in future from @williamglenn, as he said we'd be getting nothing like the 'subtle' French Presidential plane design, but it appears we have more or less a carbon copy of that design but with the Union flag.

    Personally I think it looks quite nice, but I'm rather underwhelmed. It isn't Austin Powers *enough* for £900,000 as far as I am concerned. I expect to uncontrollably burst out singing Rule Britannia when I see it for that money. The person who said it just looks like a standard British Airways' jumbo is pretty on the mark.

    It hasn't cost £900,000 that's bollocks.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 82,435
    I wanted to win the title at the Etihad anyway.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 22,333
    HYUFD said:

    Nigelb said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Demings would be the better choice, from Florida, a key swing state, rather than the safe Democratic areas of California and DC Like Harris and Rice

    I think Biden's number one priority is to find a VP candidate who is (a) experienced enough to step into his shoes, and (b) does not scare off any moderate voters.

    That's why Harris is the favourite. She's the conservative choice.
    Her prosecution record could ironically scare off African Americans
    Unlikely.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/23/kamala-harris-gop-police-336150

    (Though I acknowledge I’m talking my own book.)
    https://theappeal.org/kamala-harris-criminal-justice-record-killed-her-presidential-run/
    That’s your best effort ?
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/07/kamala-harris-biden-criminal-justice-reform-304534
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 10,905
    ydoethur said:

    What is wrong with these people?

    That’s even more batshit crazy than that racist nutter up at Cambridge.
    The racist nutter who they then decided to promote you mean......
  • CorrectHorseBatteryCorrectHorseBattery Posts: 4,655
    edited June 25
    Novara tonight wins the award for worst takes of the century
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 29,154
    Floater said:

    ydoethur said:

    What is wrong with these people?

    That’s even more batshit crazy than that racist nutter up at Cambridge.
    The racist nutter who they then decided to promote you mean......
    I don’t think it was quite that quick. Normally filling a chair is a slow process.

    But the timing is to put it mildly highly unfortunate. If a complaint is made...
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 22,333
    kle4 said:

    HYUFD said:

    dixiedean said:

    A challenge from the Left would be a gift to Starmer. He's gonna be another Kinnock I reckon.

    Benn challenged Kinnock for the leadership in 1988, Kinnock won 88% to 11% for Benn
    The wierd thing is I doubt it is a close run thing as to which one is more idolised, and idealised, among party members today.
    Yes, but if Kinnock had won a general election...
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