People like Tim Walker have turned into the very people they depise e.g Nigel Farage. Constantly outraged about everything Brexit / Boris / government related.
The UK government having a plane that looks presentable and flying the flag is what most countries have. I really fail to see the issue.
People like Tim Walker have turned into the very people they depise e.g Nigel Farage. Constantly outraged about everything Brexit / Boris / government related.
The UK government having a plane that looks presentable and flying the flag is what most countries have. I really fail to see the issue.
I really don't see what is tacky about it. If it was nose to tail in the colours that would be tacky.
The Britain-hating fury of Remoaners is quite magnificent.
In other news: I just heard that one of my best friends lost his job. He won't get much redundancy, he's maybe too old to start over.
He's the first ECONOMIC casualty of the Bug, in my circle.
I fear there will be many many more. An unprecedented slump awaits us. Brrr.
I really hope that there's one of your creations on here that hasn't been sniffed out. There's something a bit pinchbeck about all those personae with exactly the same writing style.
You can't be right. This one's a lady.
Or do you think that just a wily subterfuge?
G for gin ?
Gyn, just in case anyone doubts the Lady component.
As a trustee of Canterbury Archaeological Trust, I’m pretty confident that the good Archbishop is referring to a number of memorials to the perpetrators of our various colonial adventures that have been placed in the Cathedral over the last 150 years of its 1500 year history, like the memorial to the Buffs’ Zulu War outing - https://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/40930 . My own view is that the Victorians cluttered the nave with such things but views differ. Calling it some sort of cultural genocide, however, is palpably bollocks.
The other two are reviews. No one has made any decisions. Don’t like it, vote out the good councillors of Islington and RBKC.
Let's see.
My point is that the idea we CANNOT be on a slippery slope is also "bollocks"
An iconoclasm has been set in motion. In America it is already out of control. Let's hope that doesn't happen in the UK
Iconoclasm traditionally refers to the destruction of religious icons or monuments. Not only have there been no such destruction of sacred art, neither has there been such destruction of secular art. Yes, there has been damage, all of it repairable - compare the pathetic scrawl by an individual on the Churchill statue to the thorough number done on it by the 2000 May Day protesters, moss mohican and all. This constant exaggeration of isolated incidents and vague proposals into some sort of cultural apocalypse, when the Government is opposed even to the reviews, is an unedifying attempt at playing the victim that used to be beneath conservatism.
Hah. Thing is, it DOES look rather cool. And better than the French one
At £900,000, I can't help thinking someone smart has trousered £890,000 of profit.
I have a garden bridge to sell, a snip at £53m.
Didn't that turn out to be the cost of the overall maintenance, and the painting was a fraction of that cost?
I have seen that asserted but I haven't seen any basis for that assertion. The govt spox claimed the £900 000 is for the paint job and as aircraft painting is a specialist job I would tend to go with it being a one-off job, not wrapped up with other maintenance.
Some shops in a number of US states are already banning masks. But if the NC anti-mask law is resumed and enforced we'll be at a whole new level of crazy.
Why aren't the UK's students tearing down/defacing statues anymore?
Looks like it was just an excuse to get out of their parents houses during lockdown
Are you disappointed its stopped?
Maybe the slavers have gone and slippery slope arguments suggesting this was never going to stop was hysterical nonsense.
Why would I be disappointed? You were the one cheering them on!
The BLM rallys/riots haven't stopped, thats disappointing
No I cheered a solitary one on. I cheered on a grand total of one.
I was attacked by more people than I could count on here for that and was told in no uncertain terms it wouldn't stop at one illegally pulled down. That this was going to continue and continue.
Instead its stopped as soon as it started. It started at one and it stopped at one. I was right and everyone who suggested this was some Pandora's Box that would be unending protests and pulling down of statues were wrong.
No, it has lit the fuse for race riots and civil disorder
No it hasn't. Far right prats and civil disorder existed before this.
Except the far right weren't at brixton where 15 police officer were injured were they.....no just the idiots you cheer for....the so peaceful BLM marxists. You should hand in your libertarian badge, supporting the rule of law is a key tenet. Not supporting it when its convenient and there is a populist cause you can hook on to to try and convince people that you are radical and cool....you sir are a fake libertarian
I really don't see what is tacky about it. If it was nose to tail in the colours that would be tacky.
The Britain-hating fury of Remoaners is quite magnificent.
In other news: I just heard that one of my best friends lost his job. He won't get much redundancy, he's maybe too old to start over.
He's the first ECONOMIC casualty of the Bug, in my circle.
I fear there will be many many more. An unprecedented slump awaits us. Brrr.
I really hope that there's one of your creations on here that hasn't been sniffed out. There's something a bit pinchbeck about all those personae with exactly the same writing style.
You can't be right. This one's a lady.
Or do you think that just a wily subterfuge?
G for gin ?
Gyn, just in case anyone doubts the Lady component.
It’s Godiva.
I still prefer the Lindsey Graham reference. I am sure it is the origin.
Although Godiva has a Hereford connection which loomed large in an earlier incarnation.
Hah. Thing is, it DOES look rather cool. And better than the French one
At £900,000, I can't help thinking someone smart has trousered £890,000 of profit.
I have a garden bridge to sell, a snip at £53m.
Didn't that turn out to be the cost of the overall maintenance, and the painting was a fraction of that cost?
I have seen that asserted but I haven't seen any basis for that assertion. The govt spox claimed the £900 000 is for the paint job and as aircraft painting is a specialist job I would tend to go with it being a one-off job, not wrapped up with other maintenance.
It was mentioned that there was scheduled maintenance:
Why aren't the UK's students tearing down/defacing statues anymore?
Looks like it was just an excuse to get out of their parents houses during lockdown
Are you disappointed its stopped?
Maybe the slavers have gone and slippery slope arguments suggesting this was never going to stop was hysterical nonsense.
Why would I be disappointed? You were the one cheering them on!
The BLM rallys/riots haven't stopped, thats disappointing
No I cheered a solitary one on. I cheered on a grand total of one.
I was attacked by more people than I could count on here for that and was told in no uncertain terms it wouldn't stop at one illegally pulled down. That this was going to continue and continue.
Instead its stopped as soon as it started. It started at one and it stopped at one. I was right and everyone who suggested this was some Pandora's Box that would be unending protests and pulling down of statues were wrong.
No, it has lit the fuse for race riots and civil disorder
No it hasn't. Far right prats and civil disorder existed before this.
Except the far right weren't at brixton where 15 police officer were injured were they.....no just the idiots you cheer for....the so peaceful BLM marxists
The peaceful BLM event in Brixton was attended by about 30 people and ended at 7pm, long before the violence started.
Why aren't the UK's students tearing down/defacing statues anymore?
Looks like it was just an excuse to get out of their parents houses during lockdown
Are you disappointed its stopped?
Maybe the slavers have gone and slippery slope arguments suggesting this was never going to stop was hysterical nonsense.
Why would I be disappointed? You were the one cheering them on!
The BLM rallys/riots haven't stopped, thats disappointing
No I cheered a solitary one on. I cheered on a grand total of one.
I was attacked by more people than I could count on here for that and was told in no uncertain terms it wouldn't stop at one illegally pulled down. That this was going to continue and continue.
Instead its stopped as soon as it started. It started at one and it stopped at one. I was right and everyone who suggested this was some Pandora's Box that would be unending protests and pulling down of statues were wrong.
No, it has lit the fuse for race riots and civil disorder
No it hasn't. Far right prats and civil disorder existed before this.
Except the far right weren't at brixton where 15 police officer were injured were they.....no just the idiots you cheer for....the so peaceful BLM marxists
The peaceful BLM event in Brixton was attended by about 30 people and ended at 7pm, long before the violence started.
So they went there stirred the pot then ran away....whats your point?
Fuck me! Tory donor went to a fundraising dinner and had drinks at a drinks party
This is unprecedented
I cannot understand why PB Tories think these "look squirrel" tactics will fool anyone.
It is not the fundraising dinner that raiases an eyebrow. It is the aroma of possible corruption after that dinner that causes consternation.
Not a Tory, I'm sorry but I guess I'm just unsurprised things like this go on
I'm not surprised that these things go on but when you're caught with your hand in the cookie jar it's a matter of honour that you resign.
I'm a lifelong Conservative voter, and one who didn't really care about Cummings - which I still consider to be largely a personal matter, one he didn't materially benefit from.
However if Jenrick isn't out by next week the Tories can swivel on it if they think I'm voting for them next time round.
Why aren't the UK's students tearing down/defacing statues anymore?
Looks like it was just an excuse to get out of their parents houses during lockdown
Are you disappointed its stopped?
Maybe the slavers have gone and slippery slope arguments suggesting this was never going to stop was hysterical nonsense.
Why would I be disappointed? You were the one cheering them on!
The BLM rallys/riots haven't stopped, thats disappointing
No I cheered a solitary one on. I cheered on a grand total of one.
I was attacked by more people than I could count on here for that and was told in no uncertain terms it wouldn't stop at one illegally pulled down. That this was going to continue and continue.
Instead its stopped as soon as it started. It started at one and it stopped at one. I was right and everyone who suggested this was some Pandora's Box that would be unending protests and pulling down of statues were wrong.
No, it has lit the fuse for race riots and civil disorder
No it hasn't. Far right prats and civil disorder existed before this.
Except the far right weren't at brixton where 15 police officer were injured were they.....no just the idiots you cheer for....the so peaceful BLM marxists
The peaceful BLM event in Brixton was attended by about 30 people and ended at 7pm, long before the violence started.
So they went there stirred the pot then ran away....whats your point?
If a far right speaker was down somewhere left at 7pm then later the far right rioted you would be first in line to accuse him of inciting the riot. As usual left wingers make excuses for the barbarity of those that share their ideology
Some shops in a number of US states are already banning masks. But if the NC anti-mask law is resumed and enforced we'll be at a whole new level of crazy.
"Americans didn’t fail the Covid-19 test; Republicans did."
Why aren't the UK's students tearing down/defacing statues anymore?
Looks like it was just an excuse to get out of their parents houses during lockdown
Are you disappointed its stopped?
Maybe the slavers have gone and slippery slope arguments suggesting this was never going to stop was hysterical nonsense.
Why would I be disappointed? You were the one cheering them on!
The BLM rallys/riots haven't stopped, thats disappointing
No I cheered a solitary one on. I cheered on a grand total of one.
I was attacked by more people than I could count on here for that and was told in no uncertain terms it wouldn't stop at one illegally pulled down. That this was going to continue and continue.
Instead its stopped as soon as it started. It started at one and it stopped at one. I was right and everyone who suggested this was some Pandora's Box that would be unending protests and pulling down of statues were wrong.
No, it has lit the fuse for race riots and civil disorder
No it hasn't. Far right prats and civil disorder existed before this.
Except the far right weren't at brixton where 15 police officer were injured were they.....no just the idiots you cheer for....the so peaceful BLM marxists. You should hand in your libertarian badge, supporting the rule of law is a key tenet. Not supporting it when its convenient and there is a populist cause you can hook on to to try and convince people that you are radical and cool....you sir are a fake libertarian
This is an instant classic. "You're not a real X" is a much-mocked trope of the left. To see it used on behalf of libertarianism really makes me smile.
And all that was needed to earn this was to write in favour of one protest group? I can assure you that Philip Thompson is not radical and cool. And that's coming from someone who is the opposite of radical and cool to my own friends. And even they are not really radical, or cool. So maybe don't press the trendy alarm just yet.
Why aren't the UK's students tearing down/defacing statues anymore?
Looks like it was just an excuse to get out of their parents houses during lockdown
Are you disappointed its stopped?
Maybe the slavers have gone and slippery slope arguments suggesting this was never going to stop was hysterical nonsense.
Why would I be disappointed? You were the one cheering them on!
The BLM rallys/riots haven't stopped, thats disappointing
No I cheered a solitary one on. I cheered on a grand total of one.
I was attacked by more people than I could count on here for that and was told in no uncertain terms it wouldn't stop at one illegally pulled down. That this was going to continue and continue.
Instead its stopped as soon as it started. It started at one and it stopped at one. I was right and everyone who suggested this was some Pandora's Box that would be unending protests and pulling down of statues were wrong.
No, it has lit the fuse for race riots and civil disorder
No it hasn't. Far right prats and civil disorder existed before this.
Except the far right weren't at brixton where 15 police officer were injured were they.....no just the idiots you cheer for....the so peaceful BLM marxists. You should hand in your libertarian badge, supporting the rule of law is a key tenet. Not supporting it when its convenient and there is a populist cause you can hook on to to try and convince people that you are radical and cool....you sir are a fake libertarian
This is an instant classic. "You're not a real X" is a much-mocked trope of the left. To see it used on behalf of libertarianism really makes me smile.
And all that was needed to earn this was to write in favour of one protest group? I can assure you that Philip Thompson is not radical and cool. And that's coming from someone who is the opposite of radical and cool to my own friends. And even they are not really radical, or cool. So maybe don't press the trendy alarm just yet.
shrugs a primary belief of libertarianism is a belief in the rule of law, Phillip himself has said this....just seems his belief in the rule of law is somewhat fluid and only exists when its convenient
It is people like @Big_G_NorthWales who I can respect even if I disagree with them, because they show some level of constructive thought but the other PB Tories will defend whatever the Tories do and try to spin their way out of it. It just gets tiring after a while.
Don't worry, Phillip Thompson will be along soon to point out your racism
What have young adults wanting to party got to do with race or politics. You are a racist if you're seeing race there but I didn't and Francis didn't say anything about race either.
As a trustee of Canterbury Archaeological Trust, I’m pretty confident that the good Archbishop is referring to a number of memorials to the perpetrators of our various colonial adventures that have been placed in the Cathedral over the last 150 years of its 1500 year history, like the memorial to the Buffs’ Zulu War outing - https://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/40930 . My own view is that the Victorians cluttered the nave with such things but views differ. Calling it some sort of cultural genocide, however, is palpably bollocks.
The other two are reviews. No one has made any decisions. Don’t like it, vote out the good councillors of Islington and RBKC.
Let's see.
My point is that the idea we CANNOT be on a slippery slope is also "bollocks"
An iconoclasm has been set in motion. In America it is already out of control. Let's hope that doesn't happen in the UK
Iconoclasm traditionally refers to the destruction of religious icons or monuments. Not only have there been no such destruction of sacred art, neither has there been such destruction of secular art. Yes, there has been damage, all of it repairable - compare the pathetic scrawl by an individual on the Churchill statue to the thorough number done on it by the 2000 May Day protesters, moss mohican and all. This constant exaggeration of isolated incidents and vague proposals into some sort of cultural apocalypse, when the Government is opposed even to the reviews, is an unedifying attempt at playing the victim that used to be beneath conservatism.
Something for your edification. Even if you don't agree, she is notably beautiful
It is people like @Big_G_NorthWales who I can respect even if I disagree with them, because they show some level of constructive thought but the other PB Tories will defend whatever the Tories do and try to spin their way out of it. It just gets tiring after a while.
This is on an entirely different scale, conceptually. This is a challenge to the concept of policing, in itself.
That said, barring absolute apocalypse (not impossible) Khan will easily win. He is the most useless mayor in the history of the new mayoralty - even Ken Livingstone was better: he had a bit of cockney charm and personality - but the entrenched divisions are too great, and the pro-Labour vote too big.
It would take an exceptional, Borisovian candidate to overcome this for the Tories. Shaun Bailey ain't all that
Rory Stewart might have been the ideal candidate to take on Sadiq Khan but the Conservatives are so stupid they threw him out of their party.
Why aren't the UK's students tearing down/defacing statues anymore?
Looks like it was just an excuse to get out of their parents houses during lockdown
Are you disappointed its stopped?
Maybe the slavers have gone and slippery slope arguments suggesting this was never going to stop was hysterical nonsense.
Why would I be disappointed? You were the one cheering them on!
The BLM rallys/riots haven't stopped, thats disappointing
No I cheered a solitary one on. I cheered on a grand total of one.
I was attacked by more people than I could count on here for that and was told in no uncertain terms it wouldn't stop at one illegally pulled down. That this was going to continue and continue.
Instead its stopped as soon as it started. It started at one and it stopped at one. I was right and everyone who suggested this was some Pandora's Box that would be unending protests and pulling down of statues were wrong.
No, it has lit the fuse for race riots and civil disorder
No it hasn't. Far right prats and civil disorder existed before this.
Except the far right weren't at brixton where 15 police officer were injured were they.....no just the idiots you cheer for....the so peaceful BLM marxists. You should hand in your libertarian badge, supporting the rule of law is a key tenet. Not supporting it when its convenient and there is a populist cause you can hook on to to try and convince people that you are radical and cool....you sir are a fake libertarian
This is an instant classic. "You're not a real X" is a much-mocked trope of the left. To see it used on behalf of libertarianism really makes me smile.
And all that was needed to earn this was to write in favour of one protest group? I can assure you that Philip Thompson is not radical and cool. And that's coming from someone who is the opposite of radical and cool to my own friends. And even they are not really radical, or cool. So maybe don't press the trendy alarm just yet.
shrugs a primary belief of libertarianism is a belief in the rule of law, Phillip himself has said this....just seems his belief in the rule of law is somewhat fluid and only exists when its convenient
I didn't say that. I said the law should be enforced at the time. So what's your objection?
Or 20% of your population already having had does...we are seeing huge upticks in places where there have been large protests and who previously hadn't suffered too badly.
Now that might be the general opening up, but I find it hard to believe 10,000s of people huddled together for hours on end, screaming and shouting, and coughing from all the tear gas, doesn't present a transmission vector.
The paper the media reported yesterday as saying not down to protests, didn't actually say that, and their own charts of number / size of protests looks very very similar to where we are seeing big upticks.
This is on an entirely different scale, conceptually. This is a challenge to the concept of policing, in itself.
That said, barring absolute apocalypse (not impossible) Khan will easily win. He is the most useless mayor in the history of the new mayoralty - even Ken Livingstone was better: he had a bit of cockney charm and personality - but the entrenched divisions are too great, and the pro-Labour vote too big.
It would take an exceptional, Borisovian candidate to overcome this for the Tories. Shaun Bailey ain't all that
Rory Stewart might have been the ideal candidate to take on Sadiq Khan but the Conservatives are so stupid they threw him out of their party.
Rory Stewart was one of the few Tories I wouldn't mind being PM.
Why aren't the UK's students tearing down/defacing statues anymore?
Looks like it was just an excuse to get out of their parents houses during lockdown
Are you disappointed its stopped?
Maybe the slavers have gone and slippery slope arguments suggesting this was never going to stop was hysterical nonsense.
Why would I be disappointed? You were the one cheering them on!
The BLM rallys/riots haven't stopped, thats disappointing
No I cheered a solitary one on. I cheered on a grand total of one.
I was attacked by more people than I could count on here for that and was told in no uncertain terms it wouldn't stop at one illegally pulled down. That this was going to continue and continue.
Instead its stopped as soon as it started. It started at one and it stopped at one. I was right and everyone who suggested this was some Pandora's Box that would be unending protests and pulling down of statues were wrong.
No, it has lit the fuse for race riots and civil disorder
No it hasn't. Far right prats and civil disorder existed before this.
Except the far right weren't at brixton where 15 police officer were injured were they.....no just the idiots you cheer for....the so peaceful BLM marxists
The peaceful BLM event in Brixton was attended by about 30 people and ended at 7pm, long before the violence started.
So they went there stirred the pot then ran away....whats your point?
Don't blame one group of people for what another group of people do nearby several hours later just because many in both groups were black.
Don't worry, Phillip Thompson will be along soon to point out your racism
What have young adults wanting to party got to do with race or politics. You are a racist if you're seeing race there but I didn't and Francis didn't say anything about race either.
Young adults partying isn't political.
As I said, "Philip Thompson will be along soon to point out your racism". Which is what you just did. I'm new to this site but you seem to be a dribbling buffoon? Apologies if I am wrong.
You are a dribbling buffoon Sean. I called out your racism bryonic. I didn't say anything about Francis except that I saw nothing racist at all in what Francis wrote.
So eadric if you're wondering who I was calling a racist and thought it was Francis maybe get your personalities in order.
One word on comparison of 2011 riots vs the start of trouble we are seeing now.
2011, Boris was on holiday, the police totally misread the situation, went far too easy for 2-3 days, were caught off guard by the scale and size of the public disorder, then were read the riot act by the government and they reacted correctly.
SAGE have said there is potential for trouble over the summer months, and I think we can all see that young people having been locked in their homes for weeks are desperate to get out and party. Throw into the mix protests etc. You don't have to be a genius to work out there could be issues and the police should have prepared accordingly.
Failure to do so and react properly will in a way be worse than 2011, where I don't think anybody saw it coming.
Or 20% of your population already having had does...we are seeing huge upticks in places where there have been large protests and who previously hadn't suffered too badly.
Now that might be the general opening up, but I find it hard to believe 10,000s of people huddled together for hours on end, screaming and shouting, and coughing from all the tear gas, doesn't present a transmission vector.
The paper the media reported yesterday as saying not down to protests, didn't actually say that, and their own charts of number / size of protests looks very very similar to where we are seeing big upticks.
Being outside seems to be a pretty low risk, pretty much whatever goes on.
Why aren't the UK's students tearing down/defacing statues anymore?
Looks like it was just an excuse to get out of their parents houses during lockdown
Are you disappointed its stopped?
Maybe the slavers have gone and slippery slope arguments suggesting this was never going to stop was hysterical nonsense.
Why would I be disappointed? You were the one cheering them on!
The BLM rallys/riots haven't stopped, thats disappointing
No I cheered a solitary one on. I cheered on a grand total of one.
I was attacked by more people than I could count on here for that and was told in no uncertain terms it wouldn't stop at one illegally pulled down. That this was going to continue and continue.
Instead its stopped as soon as it started. It started at one and it stopped at one. I was right and everyone who suggested this was some Pandora's Box that would be unending protests and pulling down of statues were wrong.
No, it has lit the fuse for race riots and civil disorder
No it hasn't. Far right prats and civil disorder existed before this.
Except the far right weren't at brixton where 15 police officer were injured were they.....no just the idiots you cheer for....the so peaceful BLM marxists
The peaceful BLM event in Brixton was attended by about 30 people and ended at 7pm, long before the violence started.
So they went there stirred the pot then ran away....whats your point?
Don't blame one group of people for what another group of people do nearby several hours later just because many in both groups were black.
There's a word for lumping two different groups together based on their skin colour and trying to assign actions from one to the other based on their skin colour. What would that word be I wonder?
It's thirty three degrees and young adults who have been cooped up for months want to party. Must be due to the colour of their skin based upon pagan and Sean, I wonder why?
Actually, the stand-out line for me in that piece was "To look at the US, with its four centuries of racist oppression and white supremacist violence, its many decades of police brutality, and to decide that the Floyd killing was not something US police might have come up with all by themselves – that they required the instruction of faraway Israel – is to stray from rational analysis into the wilder reaches of conspiracy theory"
That sums up the problems in the US in one sentence.
People like Tim Walker have turned into the very people they depise e.g Nigel Farage. Constantly outraged about everything Brexit / Boris / government related.
The UK government having a plane that looks presentable and flying the flag is what most countries have. I really fail to see the issue.
Most countries? Governments having a plane displaying their flsg? I've lived in half a dozen countries, none of which had such a thing AFAIK. There's Air Force One, and after that I'm already struggling. Russia, perhaps? It's the sort of thing I can imagine Putin liking.
People like Tim Walker have turned into the very people they depise e.g Nigel Farage. Constantly outraged about everything Brexit / Boris / government related.
The UK government having a plane that looks presentable and flying the flag is what most countries have. I really fail to see the issue.
Most countries? Governments having a plane displaying their flsg? I've lived in half a dozen countries, none of which had such a thing AFAIK. There's Air Force One, and after that I'm already struggling. Russia, perhaps? It's the sort of thing I can imagine Putin liking.
People like Tim Walker have turned into the very people they depise e.g Nigel Farage. Constantly outraged about everything Brexit / Boris / government related.
The UK government having a plane that looks presentable and flying the flag is what most countries have. I really fail to see the issue.
Most countries? Governments having a plane displaying their flsg? I've lived in half a dozen countries, none of which had such a thing AFAIK. There's Air Force One, and after that I'm already struggling. Russia, perhaps? It's the sort of thing I can imagine Putin liking.
Actually, the stand-out line for me in that piece was "To look at the US, with its four centuries of racist oppression and white supremacist violence, its many decades of police brutality, and to decide that the Floyd killing was not something US police might have come up with all by themselves – that they required the instruction of faraway Israel – is to stray from rational analysis into the wilder reaches of conspiracy theory"
That sums up the problems in the US in one sentence.
Yes, and in the same sentence sums up why the article, and therefore the tweet, was undeniably anti-semitic.
Don't worry, Phillip Thompson will be along soon to point out your racism
What have young adults wanting to party got to do with race or politics. You are a racist if you're seeing race there but I didn't and Francis didn't say anything about race either.
Young adults partying isn't political.
As I said, "Philip Thompson will be along soon to point out your racism". Which is what you just did. I'm new to this site but you seem to be a dribbling buffoon? Apologies if I am wrong.
You are a dribbling buffoon Sean. I called out your racism bryonic. I didn't say anything about Francis except that I saw nothing racist at all in what Francis wrote.
So eadric if you're wondering who I was calling a racist and thought it was Francis maybe get your personalities in order.
As a lady of gentility, I am going to draw a curtain across your remarks and disregard them; just as one would seek to shroud an elderly lady determined to expose her vulva to the College of Cardinals
You're as much of a lady of gentility as I am a purple haired leprechaun.
Maybe apologise for falsely claiming - twice - that I'd consider Francis racist. There's no need to try and start a fight between two other members. I respect Francis and haven't had a bad word to say about him.
People like Tim Walker have turned into the very people they depise e.g Nigel Farage. Constantly outraged about everything Brexit / Boris / government related.
The UK government having a plane that looks presentable and flying the flag is what most countries have. I really fail to see the issue.
Most countries? Governments having a plane displaying their flsg? I've lived in half a dozen countries, none of which had such a thing AFAIK. There's Air Force One, and after that I'm already struggling. Russia, perhaps? It's the sort of thing I can imagine Putin liking.
Why aren't the UK's students tearing down/defacing statues anymore?
Looks like it was just an excuse to get out of their parents houses during lockdown
Are you disappointed its stopped?
Maybe the slavers have gone and slippery slope arguments suggesting this was never going to stop was hysterical nonsense.
Why would I be disappointed? You were the one cheering them on!
The BLM rallys/riots haven't stopped, thats disappointing
No I cheered a solitary one on. I cheered on a grand total of one.
I was attacked by more people than I could count on here for that and was told in no uncertain terms it wouldn't stop at one illegally pulled down. That this was going to continue and continue.
Instead its stopped as soon as it started. It started at one and it stopped at one. I was right and everyone who suggested this was some Pandora's Box that would be unending protests and pulling down of statues were wrong.
No, it has lit the fuse for race riots and civil disorder
No it hasn't. Far right prats and civil disorder existed before this.
Except the far right weren't at brixton where 15 police officer were injured were they.....no just the idiots you cheer for....the so peaceful BLM marxists
The peaceful BLM event in Brixton was attended by about 30 people and ended at 7pm, long before the violence started.
So they went there stirred the pot then ran away....whats your point?
Don't blame one group of people for what another group of people do nearby several hours later just because many in both groups were black.
There's a word for lumping two different groups together based on their skin colour and trying to assign actions from one to the other based on their skin colour. What would that word be I wonder?
It's thirty three degrees and young adults who have been cooped up for months want to party. Must be due to the colour of their skin based upon pagan and Sean, I wonder why?
This is one of the simplest and best moves to increase social mobility...Gove / Cummings were in favour of it before the blob shot it down, and I believe Labour were for it at the last GE.
I really don't see what is tacky about it. If it was nose to tail in the colours that would be tacky.
The Britain-hating fury of Remoaners is quite magnificent.
In other news: I just heard that one of my best friends lost his job. He won't get much redundancy, he's maybe too old to start over.
He's the first ECONOMIC casualty of the Bug, in my circle.
I fear there will be many many more. An unprecedented slump awaits us. Brrr.
I really hope that there's one of your creations on here that hasn't been sniffed out. There's something a bit pinchbeck about all those personae with exactly the same writing style.
Why aren't the UK's students tearing down/defacing statues anymore?
Looks like it was just an excuse to get out of their parents houses during lockdown
Are you disappointed its stopped?
Maybe the slavers have gone and slippery slope arguments suggesting this was never going to stop was hysterical nonsense.
Why would I be disappointed? You were the one cheering them on!
The BLM rallys/riots haven't stopped, thats disappointing
No I cheered a solitary one on. I cheered on a grand total of one.
I was attacked by more people than I could count on here for that and was told in no uncertain terms it wouldn't stop at one illegally pulled down. That this was going to continue and continue.
Instead its stopped as soon as it started. It started at one and it stopped at one. I was right and everyone who suggested this was some Pandora's Box that would be unending protests and pulling down of statues were wrong.
No, it has lit the fuse for race riots and civil disorder
No it hasn't. Far right prats and civil disorder existed before this.
Except the far right weren't at brixton where 15 police officer were injured were they.....no just the idiots you cheer for....the so peaceful BLM marxists
The peaceful BLM event in Brixton was attended by about 30 people and ended at 7pm, long before the violence started.
So they went there stirred the pot then ran away....whats your point?
Don't blame one group of people for what another group of people do nearby several hours later just because many in both groups were black.
If BLM hadn't stirred things up there probably wouldn't have been a riot. I notice you ignored my point that if someone like Farage had given a speech, left at 7pm and later there was a riot you would have no problem trying to blame him for it with typical hypocrisy
This is one of the simplest and best moves to increase social mobility...Gove / Cummings were in favour of it before the blob shot it down, and I believe Labour were for it at the last GE.
My medical School has rightly favoured post A level applications for some years. A lot of private schools over egg their predictions and state schools underestimate their brightest.
I really don't see what is tacky about it. If it was nose to tail in the colours that would be tacky.
The Britain-hating fury of Remoaners is quite magnificent.
In other news: I just heard that one of my best friends lost his job. He won't get much redundancy, he's maybe too old to start over.
He's the first ECONOMIC casualty of the Bug, in my circle.
I fear there will be many many more. An unprecedented slump awaits us. Brrr.
I really hope that there's one of your creations on here that hasn't been sniffed out. There's something a bit pinchbeck about all those personae with exactly the same writing style.
Actually, the stand-out line for me in that piece was "To look at the US, with its four centuries of racist oppression and white supremacist violence, its many decades of police brutality, and to decide that the Floyd killing was not something US police might have come up with all by themselves – that they required the instruction of faraway Israel – is to stray from rational analysis into the wilder reaches of conspiracy theory"
That sums up the problems in the US in one sentence.
Yes, and in the same sentence sums up why the article, and therefore the tweet, was undeniably anti-semitic.
What is it with the extreme left and their hatred of Judaism? Does the extreme left resent the fact that Judaism does not regard Marx and Lenin as saints?
Donald Trump's brother Robert has filed a new suit against their niece Mary after the first one was slung out by a court in Queens. His lawyer said they'd have the second try in Manhattan, but it turns out they've actually filed it in upstate Dutchess County, where Robert lives and Donald owns a golf course.
This is one of the simplest and best moves to increase social mobility...Gove / Cummings were in favour of it before the blob shot it down, and I believe Labour were for it at the last GE.
My medical School has rightly favoured post A level applications for some years. A lot of private schools over egg their predictions and state schools underestimate their brightest.
Absolutely. Also, I think there is also the potential for a fair bit of (unconscious) bias / safety first, in terms of "that's a good school, we had plenty of kids from there that have handled the course well".
This is one of the simplest and best moves to increase social mobility...Gove / Cummings were in favour of it before the blob shot it down, and I believe Labour were for it at the last GE.
This is one of the simplest and best moves to increase social mobility...Gove / Cummings were in favour of it before the blob shot it down, and I believe Labour were for it at the last GE.
To me it is mad your university place is based on mythical predicted grades.
Well to be 100% accurate, given A-Levels are mostly modular, they is some evidence that they can go on.
However, definitely plenty of nonsense goes on with predicted grades and also lets judge people on how they actually do, that year versus their peers. That is the fairest way. And I also then have no issue with some small adjustment to give some preference for if you come from a crap school / the rest of your school year did shit.
Why aren't the UK's students tearing down/defacing statues anymore?
Looks like it was just an excuse to get out of their parents houses during lockdown
Are you disappointed its stopped?
Maybe the slavers have gone and slippery slope arguments suggesting this was never going to stop was hysterical nonsense.
Why would I be disappointed? You were the one cheering them on!
The BLM rallys/riots haven't stopped, thats disappointing
No I cheered a solitary one on. I cheered on a grand total of one.
I was attacked by more people than I could count on here for that and was told in no uncertain terms it wouldn't stop at one illegally pulled down. That this was going to continue and continue.
Instead its stopped as soon as it started. It started at one and it stopped at one. I was right and everyone who suggested this was some Pandora's Box that would be unending protests and pulling down of statues were wrong.
No, it has lit the fuse for race riots and civil disorder
No it hasn't. Far right prats and civil disorder existed before this.
Except the far right weren't at brixton where 15 police officer were injured were they.....no just the idiots you cheer for....the so peaceful BLM marxists
The peaceful BLM event in Brixton was attended by about 30 people and ended at 7pm, long before the violence started.
So they went there stirred the pot then ran away....whats your point?
Don't blame one group of people for what another group of people do nearby several hours later just because many in both groups were black.
If BLM hadn't stirred things up there probably wouldn't have been a riot. I notice you ignored my point that if someone like Farage had given a speech, left at 7pm and later there was a riot you would have no problem trying to blame him for it with typical hypocrisy
If Farage gave a speech, left at 7pm and later kids were at a rave trying to drink and party I wouldn't try and link the two.
Actually, the stand-out line for me in that piece was "To look at the US, with its four centuries of racist oppression and white supremacist violence, its many decades of police brutality, and to decide that the Floyd killing was not something US police might have come up with all by themselves – that they required the instruction of faraway Israel – is to stray from rational analysis into the wilder reaches of conspiracy theory"
That sums up the problems in the US in one sentence.
Yes, and in the same sentence sums up why the article, and therefore the tweet, was undeniably anti-semitic.
What is it with the extreme left and their hatred of Judaism? Does the extreme left resent the fact that Judaism does not regard Marx and Lenin as saints?
No, it's simpler than that. Capitalists = Bankers = Jews, who are therefore the root of all evil. It's the age-old meme.
This is one of the simplest and best moves to increase social mobility...Gove / Cummings were in favour of it before the blob shot it down, and I believe Labour were for it at the last GE.
My medical School has rightly favoured post A level applications for some years. A lot of private schools over egg their predictions and state schools underestimate their brightest.
Careful now, next you'll be saying private school pupils get excessive help with their coursework and a disproportionate number of students with reasons for getting extra time in exams and then there will be trouble.
Actually, the stand-out line for me in that piece was "To look at the US, with its four centuries of racist oppression and white supremacist violence, its many decades of police brutality, and to decide that the Floyd killing was not something US police might have come up with all by themselves – that they required the instruction of faraway Israel – is to stray from rational analysis into the wilder reaches of conspiracy theory"
That sums up the problems in the US in one sentence.
Yes, and in the same sentence sums up why the article, and therefore the tweet, was undeniably anti-semitic.
What is it with the extreme left and their hatred of Judaism? Does the extreme left resent the fact that Judaism does not regard Marx and Lenin as saints?
No, it's simpler than that. Capitalists = Bankers = Jews, who are therefore the root of all evil. It's the age-old meme.
Surely it needs updating? Bezos, Buffet and Gates have all the world's money these days
Actually, the stand-out line for me in that piece was "To look at the US, with its four centuries of racist oppression and white supremacist violence, its many decades of police brutality, and to decide that the Floyd killing was not something US police might have come up with all by themselves – that they required the instruction of faraway Israel – is to stray from rational analysis into the wilder reaches of conspiracy theory"
That sums up the problems in the US in one sentence.
Yes, and in the same sentence sums up why the article, and therefore the tweet, was undeniably anti-semitic.
What is it with the extreme left and their hatred of Judaism? Does the extreme left resent the fact that Judaism does not regard Marx and Lenin as saints?
No, it's simpler than that. Capitalists = Bankers = Jews, who are therefore the root of all evil. It's the age-old meme.
Even simpler Jews are rich and therefore evil. You can see how it has started to shift to Indians as well.
Sounds like an improvement on the immediate predecessor for that seat.
I think you might have disagreed with her? Nonetheless, she is to be applauded: she said what she thought, didn't stand any nonsense, and stood up for her beliefs. Qualities which I'm sure you will applaud, being consistent as you are.
This is one of the simplest and best moves to increase social mobility...Gove / Cummings were in favour of it before the blob shot it down, and I believe Labour were for it at the last GE.
My medical School has rightly favoured post A level applications for some years. A lot of private schools over egg their predictions and state schools underestimate their brightest.
Careful now, next you'll be saying private school pupils get excessive help with their coursework and a disproportionate number of students with reasons for getting extra time in exams and then there will be trouble.
Parents aren't paying £10k per term for better teaching, that's for sure.
I really don't see what is tacky about it. If it was nose to tail in the colours that would be tacky.
The Britain-hating fury of Remoaners is quite magnificent.
In other news: I just heard that one of my best friends lost his job. He won't get much redundancy, he's maybe too old to start over.
He's the first ECONOMIC casualty of the Bug, in my circle.
I fear there will be many many more. An unprecedented slump awaits us. Brrr.
I really hope that there's one of your creations on here that hasn't been sniffed out. There's something a bit pinchbeck about all those personae with exactly the same writing style.
You can't be right. This one's a lady.
Or do you think that just a wily subterfuge?
Byronic was transitioning.
Yeah he transitioned to Eadric.
Doctor Who eventually became female, Sean is just playing catch up...
People like Tim Walker have turned into the very people they depise e.g Nigel Farage. Constantly outraged about everything Brexit / Boris / government related.
The UK government having a plane that looks presentable and flying the flag is what most countries have. I really fail to see the issue.
Most countries? Governments having a plane displaying their flsg? I've lived in half a dozen countries, none of which had such a thing AFAIK. There's Air Force One, and after that I'm already struggling. Russia, perhaps? It's the sort of thing I can imagine Putin liking.
Why aren't the UK's students tearing down/defacing statues anymore?
Looks like it was just an excuse to get out of their parents houses during lockdown
Are you disappointed its stopped?
Maybe the slavers have gone and slippery slope arguments suggesting this was never going to stop was hysterical nonsense.
Why would I be disappointed? You were the one cheering them on!
The BLM rallys/riots haven't stopped, thats disappointing
No I cheered a solitary one on. I cheered on a grand total of one.
I was attacked by more people than I could count on here for that and was told in no uncertain terms it wouldn't stop at one illegally pulled down. That this was going to continue and continue.
Instead its stopped as soon as it started. It started at one and it stopped at one. I was right and everyone who suggested this was some Pandora's Box that would be unending protests and pulling down of statues were wrong.
No, it has lit the fuse for race riots and civil disorder
No it hasn't. Far right prats and civil disorder existed before this.
Except the far right weren't at brixton where 15 police officer were injured were they.....no just the idiots you cheer for....the so peaceful BLM marxists
The peaceful BLM event in Brixton was attended by about 30 people and ended at 7pm, long before the violence started.
So they went there stirred the pot then ran away....whats your point?
Don't blame one group of people for what another group of people do nearby several hours later just because many in both groups were black.
If BLM hadn't stirred things up there probably wouldn't have been a riot. I notice you ignored my point that if someone like Farage had given a speech, left at 7pm and later there was a riot you would have no problem trying to blame him for it with typical hypocrisy
If Farage gave a speech, left at 7pm and later kids were at a rave trying to drink and party I wouldn't try and link the two.
Kids?
The equivalent is Farage giving an anti immigration speech, leaving at 7pm then a massive gang of people beating up immigrants all night afterwards
This is one of the simplest and best moves to increase social mobility...Gove / Cummings were in favour of it before the blob shot it down, and I believe Labour were for it at the last GE.
To me it is mad your university place is based on mythical predicted grades.
Well to be 100% accurate, given A-Levels are mostly modular, they is some evidence that they can go on.
However, definitely plenty of nonsense goes on with predicted grades and also lets judge people on how they actually do, that year versus their peers. That is the fairest way. And I also then have no issue with some small adjustment to give some preference for if you come from a crap school / the rest of your school year did shit.
Modules were scrapped in the Gove reforms, and not many do AS exams in Year 12 either, since there's much less point to them.
Educationally, this is exactly the right thing to do- Summer Term, Year 12 is often when they're beginning to motor, and it's much nicer using that time for teaching than external exams.
People like Tim Walker have turned into the very people they depise e.g Nigel Farage. Constantly outraged about everything Brexit / Boris / government related.
The UK government having a plane that looks presentable and flying the flag is what most countries have. I really fail to see the issue.
Most countries? Governments having a plane displaying their flsg? I've lived in half a dozen countries, none of which had such a thing AFAIK. There's Air Force One, and after that I'm already struggling. Russia, perhaps? It's the sort of thing I can imagine Putin liking.
Best guess: humans are programmed by evolution to disfavour an out-group, ie a scapegoat, and the educated, commercially-minded, allegedly-self-regarding Jewish people are ideal for that purpose, in nearly all circumstances
That's a tiresome anti-semitic trope in itself. All Jews are commercially-minded? FFS.
It would be on safer ground to suggest that all variants of eadric et al are idiots.
Why aren't the UK's students tearing down/defacing statues anymore?
Looks like it was just an excuse to get out of their parents houses during lockdown
Are you disappointed its stopped?
Maybe the slavers have gone and slippery slope arguments suggesting this was never going to stop was hysterical nonsense.
Why would I be disappointed? You were the one cheering them on!
The BLM rallys/riots haven't stopped, thats disappointing
No I cheered a solitary one on. I cheered on a grand total of one.
I was attacked by more people than I could count on here for that and was told in no uncertain terms it wouldn't stop at one illegally pulled down. That this was going to continue and continue.
Instead its stopped as soon as it started. It started at one and it stopped at one. I was right and everyone who suggested this was some Pandora's Box that would be unending protests and pulling down of statues were wrong.
No, it has lit the fuse for race riots and civil disorder
No it hasn't. Far right prats and civil disorder existed before this.
Except the far right weren't at brixton where 15 police officer were injured were they.....no just the idiots you cheer for....the so peaceful BLM marxists
The peaceful BLM event in Brixton was attended by about 30 people and ended at 7pm, long before the violence started.
So they went there stirred the pot then ran away....whats your point?
Don't blame one group of people for what another group of people do nearby several hours later just because many in both groups were black.
If BLM hadn't stirred things up there probably wouldn't have been a riot. I notice you ignored my point that if someone like Farage had given a speech, left at 7pm and later there was a riot you would have no problem trying to blame him for it with typical hypocrisy
If Farage gave a speech, left at 7pm and later kids were at a rave trying to drink and party I wouldn't try and link the two.
Kids?
The equivalent is Farage giving an anti immigration speech, leaving at 7pm then a massive gang of people beating up immigrants all night afterwards
Young adults.
Hours later there was a party going on. What's that got to do with Farage/BLM. Young people party.
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Land of the free my arse.
The UK government having a plane that looks presentable and flying the flag is what most countries have. I really fail to see the issue.
https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/status/1276591702321647616
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1276612778829193217
I'm not sure anyone wants to use their smartphone for that purpose in the 21st.
I'd rather not clean myself with an iPad.
Although Godiva has a Hereford connection which loomed large in an earlier incarnation.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1296917/Boris-Johnson-plane-union-jack-raf-voyager-brexit-latest
https://twitter.com/CrimeLdn/status/1276615432796090369?s=19
I'm a lifelong Conservative voter, and one who didn't really care about Cummings - which I still consider to be largely a personal matter, one he didn't materially benefit from.
However if Jenrick isn't out by next week the Tories can swivel on it if they think I'm voting for them next time round.
"Americans didn’t fail the Covid-19 test; Republicans did."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/25/opinion/coronavirus-republicans.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
And all that was needed to earn this was to write in favour of one protest group? I can assure you that Philip Thompson is not radical and cool. And that's coming from someone who is the opposite of radical and cool to my own friends. And even they are not really radical, or cool. So maybe don't press the trendy alarm just yet.
There's also the issue of furlough disproportionately affecting the young, many of whom are basically at home on 75% of salary with nothing to do.
I'm sure re-opening the pubs and clubs will be a huge success...
Young adults partying isn't political.
Now that might be the general opening up, but I find it hard to believe 10,000s of people huddled together for hours on end, screaming and shouting, and coughing from all the tear gas, doesn't present a transmission vector.
The paper the media reported yesterday as saying not down to protests, didn't actually say that, and their own charts of number / size of protests looks very very similar to where we are seeing big upticks.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/26/sacking-rebecca-long-bailey-labour-antisemitism-keir-starmer
So eadric if you're wondering who I was calling a racist and thought it was Francis maybe get your personalities in order.
2011, Boris was on holiday, the police totally misread the situation, went far too easy for 2-3 days, were caught off guard by the scale and size of the public disorder, then were read the riot act by the government and they reacted correctly.
SAGE have said there is potential for trouble over the summer months, and I think we can all see that young people having been locked in their homes for weeks are desperate to get out and party. Throw into the mix protests etc. You don't have to be a genius to work out there could be issues and the police should have prepared accordingly.
Failure to do so and react properly will in a way be worse than 2011, where I don't think anybody saw it coming.
https://patch.com/new-york/new-york-city/corona-nycs-epicenter-coronavirus-outbreak
It's thirty three degrees and young adults who have been cooped up for months want to party. Must be due to the colour of their skin based upon pagan and Sean, I wonder why?
That sums up the problems in the US in one sentence.
Obviously something something Brexit, something something, Boris, something something, Putin, something something, Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_transports_of_heads_of_state_and_government
Maybe apologise for falsely claiming - twice - that I'd consider Francis racist. There's no need to try and start a fight between two other members. I respect Francis and haven't had a bad word to say about him.
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1276624490458423296?s=20
To me it is mad your university place is based on mythical predicted grades.
https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1276611943588036608
However, definitely plenty of nonsense goes on with predicted grades and also lets judge people on how they actually do, that year versus their peers. That is the fairest way. And I also then have no issue with some small adjustment to give some preference for if you come from a crap school / the rest of your school year did shit.
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1276634569949708290?s=20
The equivalent is Farage giving an anti immigration speech, leaving at 7pm then a massive gang of people beating up immigrants all night afterwards
Educationally, this is exactly the right thing to do- Summer Term, Year 12 is often when they're beginning to motor, and it's much nicer using that time for teaching than external exams.
But yes, it's a bit of a pain for predictions.
It would be on safer ground to suggest that all variants of eadric et al are idiots.
Hours later there was a party going on. What's that got to do with Farage/BLM. Young people party.