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Joe Biden has made it clear that he aims to announce who will be his running mate in early August so we could know who is going to be on the ticket with him in less than a month.

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TheScreamingEagles

First like Liverpool.

Philip_Thompson

Second like Labour.

turbotubbs

Third, oh whats the point...

Alanbrooke

Im hoping Trump picks Kanye West as his VP

The internet will explode

DavidL

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

LostPassword

Normally a Presidential candidate will make a big deal of their VP choice - any excuse to win a bit of airtime - but I wonder whether there's a danger in that for Biden?

It's become received wisdom that his VP pick is more important than normal, because his age make it more likely they will be called upon to take over. The more hoopla and hype there is around his VP pick the more that question comes to the fore - raising questions about his physical and mental capability for the job.

I think there's a real danger for Biden with this.

Alanbrooke

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Rhodes scholar

probably linked to the KKK

DavidL

Alanbrooke said:

Im hoping Trump picks Kanye West as his VP

The internet will explode

That would be funny.

DavidL

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Rhodes scholar

probably linked to the KKK

Possibly one of their more liberal branches...

TheScreamingEagles

Alanbrooke said:

Im hoping Trump picks Kanye West as his VP

The internet will explode

I hate myself, but I like two Kanye West songs (Goldigga and Black Skinhead) but I've got a ton of a Cardassian/Kardashian puns ready for deployment.

contrarian

Alanbrooke said:

Im hoping Trump picks Kanye West as his VP

The internet will explode

If West does run as in independent, who benefits out of the main two candidates?

Alanbrooke

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Or maybe Trump could choose Condoleezza Rice as his running mate

to women call Rice should confuse the hell out of the Americans

DavidL

LostPassword said:

Normally a Presidential candidate will make a big deal of their VP choice - any excuse to win a bit of airtime - but I wonder whether there's a danger in that for Biden?

It's become received wisdom that his VP pick is more important than normal, because his age make it more likely they will be called upon to take over. The more hoopla and hype there is around his VP pick the more that question comes to the fore - raising questions about his physical and mental capability for the job.

I think there's a real danger for Biden with this.

It's inevitable and there is nothing he can do about it. If he picked someone as useless as Trump as his VP he would be saying, "are you willing to bet on me remaining compus, err, compus, err, you know what I mean, for the next 4 years?"

DavidL

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Or maybe Trump could choose Condoleezza Rice as his running mate

to women call Rice should confuse the hell out of the Americans

Clearly a Chinese plot.

Alanbrooke

contrarian said:

Alanbrooke said:

Im hoping Trump picks Kanye West as his VP

The internet will explode

If West does run as in independent, who benefits out of the main two candidates?

All of America benefits.

Kim's butt can be carved in to Mt Rushmore

TheScreamingEagles

DavidL said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Rhodes scholar

probably linked to the KKK

Possibly one of their more liberal branches...

I've always wanted to join the KKK, I really want to know which washing powder they use to keep their sheets white.

algarkirk

delete

Morris_Dancer

Mr. Eagles, bloody spoonheads.

TimT

contrarian said:

Alanbrooke said:

Im hoping Trump picks Kanye West as his VP

The internet will explode

If West does run as in independent, who benefits out of the main two candidates?

West

rcs1000

contrarian said:

Alanbrooke said:

Im hoping Trump picks Kanye West as his VP

The internet will explode

If West does run as in independent, who benefits out of the main two candidates?

I would say Trump, but only marginally, simply because I don't think West will get on the ballot in many states, and he's unlikely to be treated as a serious candidate.

rcs1000

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Or maybe Trump could choose Condoleezza Rice as his running mate

to women call Rice should confuse the hell out of the Americans

Condoleeza Rice would be an excellent VP pick. But I don't think she'd do it, either for Trump or anyone else.

Alanbrooke

TheScreamingEagles said:

DavidL said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Rhodes scholar

probably linked to the KKK

Possibly one of their more liberal branches...

I've always wanted to join the KKK, I really want to know which washing powder they use to keep their sheets white.

you chose the wrong Uni. Cambridge does useful stuff for mankind whereas Oxford produces George Osborne

TheScreamingEagles

Alanbrooke said:

contrarian said:

Alanbrooke said:

Im hoping Trump picks Kanye West as his VP

The internet will explode

If West does run as in independent, who benefits out of the main two candidates?

All of America benefits.

Kim's butt can be carved in to Mt Rushmore

Finally I will have an excuse to use this picture in thread headers.

DavidL

TheScreamingEagles said:

DavidL said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Rhodes scholar

probably linked to the KKK

Possibly one of their more liberal branches...

I've always wanted to join the KKK, I really want to know which washing powder they use to keep their sheets white.

Its a bit of a mystery right enough, what with the burning crosses, Molotov cocktails and tramping around in the mud on hot nights. Good luck with that.

logical_song

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Or maybe Trump could choose Condoleezza Rice as his running mate

to women call Rice should confuse the hell out of the Americans

I wouldn't put a change of VP past Trump, has a VP ever been dropped by a sitting president before?
But if he's that desperate who would take it?

TheScreamingEagles

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Eagles, bloody spoonheads.

Garak is my all time favourite character from Star Trek.

TheScreamingEagles

logical_song said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Or maybe Trump could choose Condoleezza Rice as his running mate

to women call Rice should confuse the hell out of the Americans

I wouldn't put a change of VP past Trump, has a VP ever been dropped by a sitting president before?
But if he's that desperate who would take it?

FDR dropped a VEEP or two.

Morris_Dancer

Mr. Eagles, he's pretty damned good.

When he's not being shot by Clint Eastwood.

OldKingCole

DavidL said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

DavidL said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Rhodes scholar

probably linked to the KKK

Possibly one of their more liberal branches...

I've always wanted to join the KKK, I really want to know which washing powder they use to keep their sheets white.

Its a bit of a mystery right enough, what with the burning crosses, Molotov cocktails and tramping around in the mud on hot nights. Good luck with that.

Tramping around in the mud on hot nights in those sheets must be very uncomfortable.

CarlottaVance

Sunak profile in The Tatler:

https://www.tatler.com/article/rishi-sunak-chancellor-of-the-exchequer-feature?sdk

TheScreamingEagles

Alanbrooke said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

DavidL said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Rhodes scholar

probably linked to the KKK

Possibly one of their more liberal branches...

I've always wanted to join the KKK, I really want to know which washing powder they use to keep their sheets white.

you chose the wrong Uni. Cambridge does useful stuff for mankind whereas Oxford produces George Osborne

George is a one man jobs miracle, he's got another job recently.

kinabalu

Is Kanye running so that the tens of millions of Americans who can't abide Trump yet are unenthused by the 77 year old Biden have a real option?

logical_song

Completely Off Topic
Tesla stock going wild 1,331.30 + 122.64 (+10.15%)
I bought a few at 820 six weeks ago, last October they were 250.

RobD

TheScreamingEagles said:

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. Eagles, bloody spoonheads.

Garak is my all time favourite character from Star Trek.

I should have gone into tailoring.

OnlyLivingBoy

Isn't Susan Rice's son a Trump-supporting right-wing loon? Could get interesting.

xyzxyzxyz

I would like to add to yesterdays debate on a wealth tax. A trust, like the Duke of Westminster's, pays 6% tax every 10 years. Instead of a wealth tax you could include business and farms in inheritance tax but cut the rate to 6% for everybody. That would bring in much more money than inheritance tax at 40%. Business and farms could borrow the 6% and pay it back over a generation. Trusts do not seem to complain about paying 6% every 10 years.

logical_song

kinabalu said:

Is Kanye running so that the tens of millions of Americans who can't abide Trump yet are unenthused by the 77 year old Biden have a real option?

Cheap publicity, like Jordan standing for parliament?

TheScreamingEagles

logical_song said:

kinabalu said:

Is Kanye running so that the tens of millions of Americans who can't abide Trump yet are unenthused by the 77 year old Biden have a real option?

Cheap publicity, like Jordan standing for parliament?

Katie Price missed an opportunity not standing as the Popular Front candidate in 2001.

LadyG

Good news on infections

https://twitter.com/UKCovid19Stats/status/1280164616228745216?s=20

MrEd

rcs1000 said:

contrarian said:

Alanbrooke said:

Im hoping Trump picks Kanye West as his VP

The internet will explode

If West does run as in independent, who benefits out of the main two candidates?

I would say Trump, but only marginally, simply because I don't think West will get on the ballot in many states, and he's unlikely to be treated as a serious candidate.

He might not get on the ballot but he may ask some uncomfortable questions re what the Democrats have done for the Black population. I certainly can't see it hurting Trump although there have been one or two polls suggesting younger Black voters are (relatively) more pro-Trump

RochdalePioneers

FPT about people having a "good" pandemic.

No, it's been bloody horrible. OK so financially its actually benefitted my company (in that we still have one) but otherwise whats good about it. 50k+ dead and we're by no means done. Many more struggling to recover from it. Normal life stopped with many of these jobs and businesses gone for good. Many many of us have found it to be a harrowing challenging period mentally, others financially (#ExcludedUK campaign finally talking about the many people completely abandonded by this), others both.

OK so there is some hope for the future. That we see some significant changes to how we live and work so that the environmental positives can be maintained, that the improved work / life balance can be maintained. Already though we see signs that the government wants status quo ante so that we can all be lined up ready to be thrown off the Brexit cliff.

CarlottaVance

https://twitter.com/cricketwyvern/status/1280168773660663809?s=20

RobD

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/cricketwyvern/status/1280168773660663809?s=20

Facts? Who needs em!

Luckyguy1983

TheScreamingEagles said:

DavidL said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Rhodes scholar

probably linked to the KKK

Possibly one of their more liberal branches...

I've always wanted to join the KKK, I really want to know which washing powder they use to keep their sheets white.

I believe they do it by very strictly keeping their whites separate.

turbotubbs

LadyG said:

Good news on infections

https://twitter.com/UKCovid19Stats/status/1280164616228745216?s=20

Don't suppose the test and trace might actually be working?

kinabalu

MrEd said:

rcs1000 said:

contrarian said:

Alanbrooke said:

Im hoping Trump picks Kanye West as his VP

The internet will explode

If West does run as in independent, who benefits out of the main two candidates?

I would say Trump, but only marginally, simply because I don't think West will get on the ballot in many states, and he's unlikely to be treated as a serious candidate.

He might not get on the ballot but he may ask some uncomfortable questions re what the Democrats have done for the Black population. I certainly can't see it hurting Trump although there have been one or two polls suggesting younger Black voters are (relatively) more pro-Trump

"Blonde and gone".

kinabalu

Luckyguy1983 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

DavidL said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Rhodes scholar

probably linked to the KKK

Possibly one of their more liberal branches...

I've always wanted to join the KKK, I really want to know which washing powder they use to keep their sheets white.

I believe they do it by very strictly keeping their whites separate.

That's a hit.

MikeL

Gov.uk website for reporting tests, cases, deaths appears to have completely fallen apart.

Not properly updated for 3 days and now a complete shambles.

Data for cases - no daily figures for last 3 days - but cumulative total jumps today by 3 days worth.

It literally looks as if the whole thing is being managed by someone struggling to pass a GCSE.

https://coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk/cases

TheScreamingEagles

MikeL said:

Gov.uk website for reporting tests, cases, deaths appears to have completely fallen apart.

Not properly updated for 3 days and now a complete shambles.

Data for cases - no daily figures for last 3 days - but cumulative total jumps today by 3 days worth.

It literally looks as if the whole thing is being manged by someone struggling to pass a GCSE.

https://coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk/cases

World beating

https://twitter.com/AndrewSparrow/status/1280112097872031745

Mexicanpete

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/cricketwyvern/status/1280168773660663809?s=20

Why do you feel the need to keep posting statistics to imply Scotland and Wales have performed poorly throughout the life of the pandemic? It seems a really peculiar thing to want to do.

Just saying.

Malmesbury

From the England case data

MikeL said:

Gov.uk website for reporting tests, cases, deaths appears to have completely fallen apart.

Not properly updated for 3 days and now a complete shambles.

Data for cases - no daily figures for last 3 days - but cumulative total jumps today by 3 days worth.

It literally looks as if the whole thing is being managed by someone struggling to pass a GCSE.

https://coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk/cases

That is the Beta testing site....

CorrectHorseBattery

https://twitter.com/singharj/status/1280169280303177729

We are fucked

RobD

MikeL said:

Gov.uk website for reporting tests, cases, deaths appears to have completely fallen apart.

Not properly updated for 3 days and now a complete shambles.

Data for cases - no daily figures for last 3 days - but cumulative total jumps today by 3 days worth.

It literally looks as if the whole thing is being managed by someone struggling to pass a GCSE.

https://coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk/cases

It mentions that it's still in the testing phase. Is it similarly bad here: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ ?

Carnyx

Mexicanpete said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/cricketwyvern/status/1280168773660663809?s=20

Why do you feel the need to keep posting statistics to imply Scotland and Wales have performed poorly throughout the life of the pandemic? It seems a really peculiar thing to want to do.

Just saying.

You could delete "and Wales" and "throughout the life of the pandemic".

I had thought Carlotta lived in Scotland, given the level of interest - but it now turns out [edit] she/he lives in the CIs (and has made some very interesting reports and comments on the situation there).

Malmesbury

England case data - from https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Last 3-5 days are provisional. Last 5 days included for completeness

RobD

Mexicanpete said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/cricketwyvern/status/1280168773660663809?s=20

Why do you feel the need to keep posting statistics to imply Scotland and Wales have performed poorly throughout the life of the pandemic? It seems a really peculiar thing to want to do.

Just saying.

Good for a bit of balance, don't you think?

turbotubbs

Mexicanpete said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/cricketwyvern/status/1280168773660663809?s=20

Why do you feel the need to keep posting statistics to imply Scotland and Wales have performed poorly throughout the life of the pandemic? It seems a really peculiar thing to want to do.

Just saying.

I think in this case its a bit of a fact check on a false claim re Wales vs England (see the original).

MaxPB

edit: my bad

CarlottaVance

Mexicanpete said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/cricketwyvern/status/1280168773660663809?s=20

Why do you feel the need to keep posting statistics to imply Scotland and Wales have performed poorly throughout the life of the pandemic? It seems a really peculiar thing to want to do.

Just saying.

You'll note it rebuts a tweet that Wales is doing particularly well - "much better shape than England".

It's the nationalists I'm not overly fond of.

RobD

snip

Pulpstar

xyzxyzxyz said:

I would like to add to yesterdays debate on a wealth tax. A trust, like the Duke of Westminster's, pays 6% tax every 10 years. Instead of a wealth tax you could include business and farms in inheritance tax but cut the rate to 6% for everybody. That would bring in much more money than inheritance tax at 40%. Business and farms could borrow the 6% and pay it back over a generation. Trusts do not seem to complain about paying 6% every 10 years.

An annual wealth tax of 0.58%. Lower than my current council tax bill .
Sounds good to me.

LadyG

MaxPB said:

edit: my bad

You're reading it wrong


It is showing the cases on all the preceding MONDAYS

Malmesbury

RobD said:

MikeL said:

Gov.uk website for reporting tests, cases, deaths appears to have completely fallen apart.

Not properly updated for 3 days and now a complete shambles.

Data for cases - no daily figures for last 3 days - but cumulative total jumps today by 3 days worth.

It literally looks as if the whole thing is being managed by someone struggling to pass a GCSE.

https://coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk/cases

It mentions that it's still in the testing phase. Is it similarly bad here: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ ?

Nope, just scrapped the latest data at the main site.

OldKingCole

CorrectHorseBattery said:

https://twitter.com/singharj/status/1280169280303177729

We are fucked

We'll be really f@cked if he also has appointments to address the SNP and LD's.

MrEd

kinabalu said:

MrEd said:

rcs1000 said:

contrarian said:

Alanbrooke said:

Im hoping Trump picks Kanye West as his VP

The internet will explode

If West does run as in independent, who benefits out of the main two candidates?

I would say Trump, but only marginally, simply because I don't think West will get on the ballot in many states, and he's unlikely to be treated as a serious candidate.

He might not get on the ballot but he may ask some uncomfortable questions re what the Democrats have done for the Black population. I certainly can't see it hurting Trump although there have been one or two polls suggesting younger Black voters are (relatively) more pro-Trump

"Blonde and gone".

Maybe RuPaul should stand and the two of them can fight it out for the third party vote

rcs1000

MrEd said:

rcs1000 said:

contrarian said:

Alanbrooke said:

Im hoping Trump picks Kanye West as his VP

The internet will explode

If West does run as in independent, who benefits out of the main two candidates?

I would say Trump, but only marginally, simply because I don't think West will get on the ballot in many states, and he's unlikely to be treated as a serious candidate.

He might not get on the ballot but he may ask some uncomfortable questions re what the Democrats have done for the Black population. I certainly can't see it hurting Trump although there have been one or two polls suggesting younger Black voters are (relatively) more pro-Trump

But couldn't he ask those questions anyway? And mightn't he get further if people weren't laughing at him over a vanity Presidential run?

I can't see it personally. I don't think there is a massive groundswell of young black Americans (or older ones for that matter) who are desperate for someone (anyone) to run just because they're black. Liking someone's music doesn't really seem like enough.

If he did run, he wouldn't get into the debates, and he wouldn't get onto the ballot in most states, and it would cost him a lot of money for... for... for what exactly?

CarlottaVance

BNO Passports:

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3091764/immigration-firms-report-rush-hong-kong-bno-renewal-interest

rcs1000

Luckyguy1983 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

DavidL said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Rhodes scholar

probably linked to the KKK

Possibly one of their more liberal branches...

I've always wanted to join the KKK, I really want to know which washing powder they use to keep their sheets white.

I believe they do it by very strictly keeping their whites separate.

*Claps*

CarlottaVance

We should too:

On Friday, Canada became the first to suspend its extradition treaty with Hong Kong over what it said was the national security law’s disregard for Hong Kong’s “one country, two systems” framework of semi-autonomy and the city’s mini-constitution, the Basic Law.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3091960/international-call-halt-extradition-treaties-hong-kong-after

Richard_Tyndall

Mexicanpete said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/cricketwyvern/status/1280168773660663809?s=20

Why do you feel the need to keep posting statistics to imply Scotland and Wales have performed poorly throughout the life of the pandemic? It seems a really peculiar thing to want to do.

Just saying.

Surely the 'Wales is in a much better position than England' comment in that tweet deserves to be refuted if it is false. Or are you only happy with news when it makes Westminster look bad?

Malmesbury

rcs1000 said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

DavidL said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Rhodes scholar

probably linked to the KKK

Possibly one of their more liberal branches...

I've always wanted to join the KKK, I really want to know which washing powder they use to keep their sheets white.

I believe they do it by very strictly keeping their whites separate.

*Claps*

Note that the whole bedsheet thing was an invention for the modern Klan - which was largely invented around the portrayal of the Klan in Birth of Nation.

The original Klan looked more like this -

MaxPB

Richard_Tyndall said:

Mexicanpete said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/cricketwyvern/status/1280168773660663809?s=20

Why do you feel the need to keep posting statistics to imply Scotland and Wales have performed poorly throughout the life of the pandemic? It seems a really peculiar thing to want to do.

Just saying.

Surely the 'Wales is in a much better position than England' comment in that tweet deserves to be refuted if it is false. Or are you only happy with news when it makes Westminster look bad?

This is the whole argument from yesterday, Scotland = good, UK = bad. When in fact both have been utterly dogshit.

MightyAlex

logical_song said:

Completely Off Topic
Tesla stock going wild 1,331.30 + 122.64 (+10.15%)
I bought a few at 820 six weeks ago, last October they were 250.

Can anyone explain why Tesla is now valued at ~$250 billion?

Malmesbury

From the NHS Hospital deaths data - last 10 days.

Last 3-5 data subject to revision. Last 5 days included for completeness

Pulpstar

Pulpstar said:

xyzxyzxyz said:

I would like to add to yesterdays debate on a wealth tax. A trust, like the Duke of Westminster's, pays 6% tax every 10 years. Instead of a wealth tax you could include business and farms in inheritance tax but cut the rate to 6% for everybody. That would bring in much more money than inheritance tax at 40%. Business and farms could borrow the 6% and pay it back over a generation. Trusts do not seem to complain about paying 6% every 10 years.

An annual wealth tax of 0.58%. Lower than my current council tax bill .
Sounds good to me.

Oh wait, this will be "in addition to" council tax most likely

MikeL

RobD said:

MikeL said:

Gov.uk website for reporting tests, cases, deaths appears to have completely fallen apart.

Not properly updated for 3 days and now a complete shambles.

Data for cases - no daily figures for last 3 days - but cumulative total jumps today by 3 days worth.

It literally looks as if the whole thing is being managed by someone struggling to pass a GCSE.

https://coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk/cases

It mentions that it's still in the testing phase. Is it similarly bad here: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ ?

OK, data is up to date and correct on that site.

But it's not nearly as comprehensive as the "BETA testing" site.

If all the data is available, why not update the other site? It was being updated every day until 3 days ago without any problems.

It just smacks of complete hopelessness and incompetence.

Pulpstar

Malmesbury said:

From the NHS Hospital deaths data - last 10 days.

Last 3-5 data subject to revision. Last 5 days included for completeness

Full number rectangle with single figures (in base 9 even) only. Hopefully it'll look like a binomial table at some point.

Malmesbury

MightyAlex said:

logical_song said:

Completely Off Topic
Tesla stock going wild 1,331.30 + 122.64 (+10.15%)
I bought a few at 820 six weeks ago, last October they were 250.

Can anyone explain why Tesla is now valued at ~$250 billion?

1) Because they figured out how to make the Model 3 profitably.
2) They are selling cars with no advertising, and selling everything they can make
3) This means that every time they build another factory - more profit.
4) They seem to be ahead of all the other car makers on electric vehicles
5) They are ahead on battery power storage
6) Most of the western world in heading full tilt to get rid of ICE vehicles
7) The legacy car makers are trying to catch up - and not doing especially well

All of the above may not add up to $250 billion, but these are the reasons that it has gone that way.

RobD

MikeL said:

RobD said:

MikeL said:

Gov.uk website for reporting tests, cases, deaths appears to have completely fallen apart.

Not properly updated for 3 days and now a complete shambles.

Data for cases - no daily figures for last 3 days - but cumulative total jumps today by 3 days worth.

It literally looks as if the whole thing is being managed by someone struggling to pass a GCSE.

https://coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk/cases

It mentions that it's still in the testing phase. Is it similarly bad here: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ ?

OK, data is up to date and correct on that site.

But it's not nearly as comprehensive as the "BETA testing" site.

If all the data is available, why not update the other site? It was being updated every day until 3 days ago without any problems.

It just smacks of complete hopelessness and incompetence.

I find it hard to get that worked up about a site that is clearly labeled as being under development/testing.

eek

MightyAlex said:

logical_song said:

Completely Off Topic
Tesla stock going wild 1,331.30 + 122.64 (+10.15%)
I bought a few at 820 six weeks ago, last October they were 250.

Can anyone explain why Tesla is now valued at ~$250 billion?

Nope but then again I struggled to understand how it was worth $50bn..

Philip_Thompson

CorrectHorseBattery said:

https://twitter.com/singharj/status/1280169280303177729

We are fucked

Why?

Having experts like the Governor address and inform our lawmakers seems sensible.

Doing so in separate and private addresses to the parties does so in a way more likely to be informative and less likely to be partisan grandstanding like at Select Committees.

TheScreamingEagles

eek said:

MightyAlex said:

logical_song said:

Completely Off Topic
Tesla stock going wild 1,331.30 + 122.64 (+10.15%)
I bought a few at 820 six weeks ago, last October they were 250.

Can anyone explain why Tesla is now valued at ~$250 billion?

Nope but then again I struggled to understand how it was worth $50bn..

I'm still waiting for someone explain Bitcoin to me, which seems like a modern day tulip mania.

Pulpstar

eek said:

MightyAlex said:

logical_song said:

Completely Off Topic
Tesla stock going wild 1,331.30 + 122.64 (+10.15%)
I bought a few at 820 six weeks ago, last October they were 250.

Can anyone explain why Tesla is now valued at ~$250 billion?

Nope but then again I struggled to understand how it was worth $50bn..

Lord only knows. Even Elon Musk reckons it's overvalued and it's his company.

Floater

https://order-order.com/2020/07/06/zero-tolerance-starmer-to-take-zero-action-against-reed-labour-left-not-happy/

Seems he played the person not the crime (RLB)

kinabalu

Malmesbury said:

rcs1000 said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

DavidL said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Rhodes scholar

probably linked to the KKK

Possibly one of their more liberal branches...

I've always wanted to join the KKK, I really want to know which washing powder they use to keep their sheets white.

I believe they do it by very strictly keeping their whites separate.

*Claps*

Note that the whole bedsheet thing was an invention for the modern Klan - which was largely invented around the portrayal of the Klan in Birth of Nation.

The original Klan looked more like this -

That law abiding klansman looks like he's being terrorised in his own home by a black mob.

eek

TheScreamingEagles said:

eek said:

MightyAlex said:

logical_song said:

Completely Off Topic
Tesla stock going wild 1,331.30 + 122.64 (+10.15%)
I bought a few at 820 six weeks ago, last October they were 250.

Can anyone explain why Tesla is now valued at ~$250 billion?

Nope but then again I struggled to understand how it was worth $50bn..

I'm still waiting for someone explain Bitcoin to me, which seems like a modern day tulip mania.

Bitcoin is easy, that's a means of transferring money out of countries and collecting ransom demands.

CarlottaVance

Wonder if Boris will go to the US in the middle of Trump's re-election campaign?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-8495073/Trudeau-turns-White-House-invitation-amid-pandemic.html

No_Offence_Alan

OldKingCole said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

https://twitter.com/singharj/status/1280169280303177729

We are fucked

We'll be really f@cked if he also has appointments to address the SNP and LD's.

He's probably going to tell them all the coffers are bare, and the next time a government fucks up, don't expect a bailout.

ABZ

MikeL said:

RobD said:

MikeL said:

Gov.uk website for reporting tests, cases, deaths appears to have completely fallen apart.

Not properly updated for 3 days and now a complete shambles.

Data for cases - no daily figures for last 3 days - but cumulative total jumps today by 3 days worth.

It literally looks as if the whole thing is being managed by someone struggling to pass a GCSE.

https://coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk/cases

It mentions that it's still in the testing phase. Is it similarly bad here: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ ?

OK, data is up to date and correct on that site.

But it's not nearly as comprehensive as the "BETA testing" site.

If all the data is available, why not update the other site? It was being updated every day until 3 days ago without any problems.

It just smacks of complete hopelessness and incompetence.

I think it's the UK wide data that's incomplete. For example, Northern Ireland started (from Friday) to not provide updates on Saturday or Sunday, so those figures have to be updated post hoc. There are other differences in when data is reported in each nation of the UK so that may explain things. Speaking to this, if you click on the 'nation' or 'region' links the data can often be more recent.

kinabalu

eek said:

MightyAlex said:

logical_song said:

Completely Off Topic
Tesla stock going wild 1,331.30 + 122.64 (+10.15%)
I bought a few at 820 six weeks ago, last October they were 250.

Can anyone explain why Tesla is now valued at ~$250 billion?

Nope but then again I struggled to understand how it was worth $50bn..

Is it the scenario whereby the world goes nuts for electric driverless "cars" and they have the inside track on making them?

MightyAlex

Malmesbury said:

MightyAlex said:

logical_song said:

Completely Off Topic
Tesla stock going wild 1,331.30 + 122.64 (+10.15%)
I bought a few at 820 six weeks ago, last October they were 250.

Can anyone explain why Tesla is now valued at ~$250 billion?

1) Because they figured out how to make the Model 3 profitably.
2) They are selling cars with no advertising, and selling everything they can make
3) This means that every time they build another factory - more profit.
4) They seem to be ahead of all the other car makers on electric vehicles
5) They are ahead on battery power storage
6) Most of the western world in heading full tilt to get rid of ICE vehicles
7) The legacy car makers are trying to catch up - and not doing especially well

All of the above may not add up to $250 billion, but these are the reasons that it has gone that way.

I've no financial background so you might have to forgive this but....

How many cars would a mature low growth Tesla have to sell to justify that valuation?

What percentage of the total EV market is a mature Tesla going to occupy?

To my financial illiteracy this parabolic valuation seems to assume limited competition from all the other established auto makers.

Sandpit

TheScreamingEagles said:

Alanbrooke said:

Im hoping Trump picks Kanye West as his VP

The internet will explode

I hate myself, but I like two Kanye West songs (Goldigga and Black Skinhead) but I've got a ton of a Cardassian/Kardashian puns ready for deployment.

Oh, that lovely singalong ditty.

Now I’m not saying she’s a gold digga,
But she ain’t playin’ with no broke n.....

Err, I think I’ll stop there, if that’s okay.

Malmesbury

kinabalu said:

Malmesbury said:

rcs1000 said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

DavidL said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Rhodes scholar

probably linked to the KKK

Possibly one of their more liberal branches...

I've always wanted to join the KKK, I really want to know which washing powder they use to keep their sheets white.

I believe they do it by very strictly keeping their whites separate.

*Claps*

Note that the whole bedsheet thing was an invention for the modern Klan - which was largely invented around the portrayal of the Klan in Birth of Nation.

The original Klan looked more like this -

That law abiding klansman looks like he's being terrorised in his own home by a black mob.

Yes - the Klan used blackface. That is, they used the old disguise used by criminals over the years - rubbing charcoal into their faces to disguise themselves.

See the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Act_1723

kle4

MaxPB said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

Mexicanpete said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/cricketwyvern/status/1280168773660663809?s=20

Why do you feel the need to keep posting statistics to imply Scotland and Wales have performed poorly throughout the life of the pandemic? It seems a really peculiar thing to want to do.

Just saying.

Surely the 'Wales is in a much better position than England' comment in that tweet deserves to be refuted if it is false. Or are you only happy with news when it makes Westminster look bad?

This is the whole argument from yesterday, Scotland = good, UK = bad. When in fact both have been utterly dogshit.

Sadly it only matters what people believe. They already believe the nations are much more different than they are, a bit like how people grossly overestimate the muslim population of the country.

Malmesbury

RobD said:

MikeL said:

RobD said:

MikeL said:

Gov.uk website for reporting tests, cases, deaths appears to have completely fallen apart.

Not properly updated for 3 days and now a complete shambles.

Data for cases - no daily figures for last 3 days - but cumulative total jumps today by 3 days worth.

It literally looks as if the whole thing is being managed by someone struggling to pass a GCSE.

https://coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk/cases

It mentions that it's still in the testing phase. Is it similarly bad here: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ ?

OK, data is up to date and correct on that site.

But it's not nearly as comprehensive as the "BETA testing" site.

If all the data is available, why not update the other site? It was being updated every day until 3 days ago without any problems.

It just smacks of complete hopelessness and incompetence.

I find it hard to get that worked up about a site that is clearly labeled as being under development/testing.

The data is all there on the original site.

The main difference is the dynamic graph stuff. Which is in test.....

Malmesbury

MikeL said:

RobD said:

MikeL said:

Gov.uk website for reporting tests, cases, deaths appears to have completely fallen apart.

Not properly updated for 3 days and now a complete shambles.

Data for cases - no daily figures for last 3 days - but cumulative total jumps today by 3 days worth.

It literally looks as if the whole thing is being managed by someone struggling to pass a GCSE.

https://coronavirus-staging.data.gov.uk/cases

It mentions that it's still in the testing phase. Is it similarly bad here: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ ?

OK, data is up to date and correct on that site.

But it's not nearly as comprehensive as the "BETA testing" site.

If all the data is available, why not update the other site? It was being updated every day until 3 days ago without any problems.

It just smacks of complete hopelessness and incompetence.

People who *complain* about the existence of bugs in Beta tests do not understand what Beta means.

Beta's are there so that errors are found and *reported*.

rcs1000

MightyAlex said:

Malmesbury said:

MightyAlex said:

logical_song said:

Completely Off Topic
Tesla stock going wild 1,331.30 + 122.64 (+10.15%)
I bought a few at 820 six weeks ago, last October they were 250.

Can anyone explain why Tesla is now valued at ~$250 billion?

1) Because they figured out how to make the Model 3 profitably.
2) They are selling cars with no advertising, and selling everything they can make
3) This means that every time they build another factory - more profit.
4) They seem to be ahead of all the other car makers on electric vehicles
5) They are ahead on battery power storage
6) Most of the western world in heading full tilt to get rid of ICE vehicles
7) The legacy car makers are trying to catch up - and not doing especially well

All of the above may not add up to $250 billion, but these are the reasons that it has gone that way.

I've no financial background so you might have to forgive this but....

How many cars would a mature low growth Tesla have to sell to justify that valuation?

What percentage of the total EV market is a mature Tesla going to occupy?

To my financial illiteracy this parabolic valuation seems to assume limited competition from all the other established auto makers.

Proposition one: in the future, all cars will be electric.
Proposition two: in tech, the winner (Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, etc.) utterly dominates returns.
Proposition three: the electric car industry is part of the tech industry.

If you believe all three, then Tesla is worth $250bn.

I am sceptical about proposition three, which means proposition two doesn't apply.

kinabalu

Malmesbury said:

kinabalu said:

Malmesbury said:

rcs1000 said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

DavidL said:

Alanbrooke said:

DavidL said:

Susan Rice sounds interesting. Former NSA, ambassador to the UN, graduate of Oxford. I suspect her having a major role in the administration would put US/UK relations back onto some more like a normal footing.

I see Biden's VP having a Cheney like influence on the administration as the boss gets ever more wandered. She looks like she would be up for that.

Rhodes scholar

probably linked to the KKK

Possibly one of their more liberal branches...

I've always wanted to join the KKK, I really want to know which washing powder they use to keep their sheets white.

I believe they do it by very strictly keeping their whites separate.

*Claps*

Note that the whole bedsheet thing was an invention for the modern Klan - which was largely invented around the portrayal of the Klan in Birth of Nation.

The original Klan looked more like this -

That law abiding klansman looks like he's being terrorised in his own home by a black mob.

Yes - the Klan used blackface. That is, they used the old disguise used by criminals over the years - rubbing charcoal into their faces to disguise themselves.

See the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Act_1723

Ah ok. Interesting. Did not know that. So at least a genuine practical reason then. Not cultural appropriation.

Malmesbury

MightyAlex said:

Malmesbury said:

MightyAlex said:

logical_song said:

Completely Off Topic
Tesla stock going wild 1,331.30 + 122.64 (+10.15%)
I bought a few at 820 six weeks ago, last October they were 250.

Can anyone explain why Tesla is now valued at ~$250 billion?

1) Because they figured out how to make the Model 3 profitably.
2) They are selling cars with no advertising, and selling everything they can make
3) This means that every time they build another factory - more profit.
4) They seem to be ahead of all the other car makers on electric vehicles
5) They are ahead on battery power storage
6) Most of the western world in heading full tilt to get rid of ICE vehicles
7) The legacy car makers are trying to catch up - and not doing especially well

All of the above may not add up to $250 billion, but these are the reasons that it has gone that way.

I've no financial background so you might have to forgive this but....

How many cars would a mature low growth Tesla have to sell to justify that valuation?

What percentage of the total EV market is a mature Tesla going to occupy?

To my financial illiteracy this parabolic valuation seems to assume limited competition from all the other established auto makers.

The valuation is too high - agreed.

What I was pointing out is where the hype is coming from -

If the legacy car industry continues to underperform and let Tesla expand, they will do to the legacy makers what Amazon did to bricks and mortar.

At which point people start making absurd guesses as to what proportion of the EV market Tesla will own in the future.

kinabalu

kle4 said:

MaxPB said:

Richard_Tyndall said:

Mexicanpete said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/cricketwyvern/status/1280168773660663809?s=20

Why do you feel the need to keep posting statistics to imply Scotland and Wales have performed poorly throughout the life of the pandemic? It seems a really peculiar thing to want to do.

Just saying.

Surely the 'Wales is in a much better position than England' comment in that tweet deserves to be refuted if it is false. Or are you only happy with news when it makes Westminster look bad?

This is the whole argument from yesterday, Scotland = good, UK = bad. When in fact both have been utterly dogshit.

Sadly it only matters what people believe. They already believe the nations are much more different than they are, a bit like how people grossly overestimate the muslim population of the country.

Or of most minorities. That's my impression anyway.