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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Con hold Shipley. The rumours were fake news.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,717
    Mortimer said:

    AndyJS said:

    Con hold Broxtowe by 863 votes.

    Excellent.

    Is the route to a majority still there???
    By a thread?
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886
    Con only -9... not many losses to come.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,359
    Just updated the thread header, hope you spot my subtle pun
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    SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    edited June 2017
    dr_spyn said:

    No more Scottish panda jokes from Salmond.

    The pandas can now start making jokes about Salmond....!
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    The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    It is one of the most moderate Conservatives - Ruth Davidson - that has saved the Tories tonight. The country has not swung as right, as some Conservatives imagined that it had.
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    Con hold Shipley. That was previously declared lost.
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    BBC

    Ronnie Campbell 55.9
    Con 37.3
    AndyJS said:

    Sky says Lab hold Blyth Valley, which is odd because I thought it was counting tomorrow...

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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,910
    Davies holds Shipley
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    AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,754
    MAAAAALLLLLLCCCCCCC

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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,717
    SNP have outperformed the current forecast, they have 33 vs 32 seats.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961
    AndyJS said:

    Con hold Shipley. The rumours were fake news.

    Good, we aren't using 10k majorities lol.
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,287
    Labour take Sutton & Plymouth Devonport.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,302
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Just updated the thread header, hope you spot my subtle pun

    Made me chuckle.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,717
    jonny83 said:

    Ruth stopping a Labour coalition of chaos.

    I think I love her. Sadly, she is spoken for, and I'm not her type anyway.
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    Lab gain Plymouth Sutton.
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886
    As the 'good' shipley news comes in, Plymouth Sutton falls.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Mortimer said:

    AndyJS said:

    Con hold Broxtowe by 863 votes.

    Excellent.

    Is the route to a majority still there???
    Possibly.
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,441
    Esther Mcvey returns to parliament!
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,936
    RobD said:

    AndyJS said:

    Con hold Shipley. The rumours were fake news.

    Good, we aren't using 10k majorities lol.
    Thank christ for that.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,359
    Lab gain Plymouth Sutton
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    TravelJunkieTravelJunkie Posts: 431
    Tory hold shipley
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,302
    MikeL said:

    Maths Fail on previous thread.

    CON WILL EASILY HAVE A MAJORITY IN ENGLAND & WALES

    BY MILES

    Faisal too keen to try and find an angle to sock the Tories.

    Forgets his basic maths.
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    AHMatlockAHMatlock Posts: 15
    Did I just read correctly that Gobby has also held Broxtowe? I'm not sure whether to cheer or weep...
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    kjohnwkjohnw Posts: 1,456
    dr_spyn said:

    Labour take Sutton & Plymouth Devonport.

    9000 missing postal votes?
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Just updated the thread header, hope you spot my subtle pun

    No, I can't see a *subtle* pun there,
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    viewcodeviewcode Posts: 18,702
    4:30am. myst sleep now. Nytol.
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    MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,286
    Con now down 10 seats

    16 gains
    26 losses
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,601
    Salmond getting a rough ride from some in the audience for his Gloria Gaynor tribute act....
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    hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Salmond amazing speech even in defeat! Compare and contrast that with Theresa May gone in June
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    edited June 2017
    There's a pleasing symmetry in seeing Scottish seats which were profitable long-odds SNP gains in 2015 turning into profitable long-odds SNP losses this time.
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    AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Plymouth Sutton & Devonport

    Lab gain

    Lab 53.4
    Con 39.9
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Tory majority in Mansfield is 1,057 votes.
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    SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Just updated the thread header, hope you spot my subtle pun

    A pun for every occasion – you must have been wishing for that result :lol:
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607
    The_Apocalypse said:

    It is one of the most moderate Conservatives - Ruth Davidson - that has saved the Tories tonight. The country has not swung as right, as some Conservatives imagined that it had.

    Theresa May isn't right wing.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 38,937
    MikeL said:

    Con now down 10 seats

    16 gains
    26 losses

    Oh Dear.

    Can we have Cameron back please?
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    Con hold Hazel Grove, the seat where I grew up.
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    Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 12,983
    Scott_P said:

    Were you up for Alex Salmond?

    Hell yes :smiley:

    He won't give a fuck, he'll be off to the Lords.
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,056
    The Conservative vote increased by 18.5% in Mansfield.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,359
    Labour gain Colne Valley.

    Eek
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,246
    Comrades gain Colne Valley
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    TravelJunkieTravelJunkie Posts: 431
    Lab gain colne valley
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 38,937
    Ruth Davidson is a star.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Labour gain Colne Valley.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961
    Dura_Ace said:

    Scott_P said:

    Were you up for Alex Salmond?

    Hell yes :smiley:

    He won't give a fuck, he'll be off to the Lords.
    I thought the SNP don't take seats there.
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    The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    MaxPB said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    It is one of the most moderate Conservatives - Ruth Davidson - that has saved the Tories tonight. The country has not swung as right, as some Conservatives imagined that it had.

    Theresa May isn't right wing.
    She's more to the right that Ruth is.
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,287
    Labour take Colne Valley - 978 maj.
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    PaulMPaulM Posts: 613
    Phillip Davies won Shipley - contrary to what was reported before
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,359
    Dura_Ace said:

    Scott_P said:

    Were you up for Alex Salmond?

    Hell yes :smiley:

    He won't give a fuck, he'll be off to the Lords.
    The SNP don't accept peerages
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Salmond smoked.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,910
    Con Hold Hazel Grove
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,253
    Pulpstar said:

    How close was Don Valley ?

    5169
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,936
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Labour gain Colne Valley.

    Eek

    Darn, thats 11 losses now.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,202
    MikeL said:

    Con now down 10 seats

    16 gains
    26 losses

    10 of which are in Scotland. Bizarre.
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    stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,778
    edited June 2017
    Chameleon said:

    May is 100% gone. She's easily in her last 24 hours as leader.

    If she steps down, who is the PM? Isn't she obliged to at least begin the the next government as the leader of a minority government?

    Her electoral gamble has backfired and her GE campaign has been dire. But May is likely to be the leader of the winning party in the GE with just short of a majority and therefore now arguably has a democratic responsibility to form a government, if she is in a position to do so.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,359
    https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/873017887392505856
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    The_Apocalypse said:

    MaxPB said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    It is one of the most moderate Conservatives - Ruth Davidson - that has saved the Tories tonight. The country has not swung as right, as some Conservatives imagined that it had.

    Theresa May isn't right wing.
    She's more to the right that Ruth is.
    Not sure she is. As far as I can see, beyond being anti-independence, Davidson doesn't really seem to have any clear politics.
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    Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 12,983
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    Scott_P said:

    Were you up for Alex Salmond?

    Hell yes :smiley:

    He won't give a fuck, he'll be off to the Lords.
    The SNP don't accept peerages
    Yet. It'd be right up Eck's street.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,859
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Just updated the thread header, hope you spot my subtle pun

    Definitely no subtle pun there.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961
    stjohn said:

    Chameleon said:

    May is 100% gone. She's easily in her last 24 hours as leader.

    If she steps down, who is the PM? Isn't she obliged to at least begin the the next government a the leader of a minority government?

    Her electoral gamble has backfired and her GE campaign has been dire, But May is likely to be the leader of the winning party in the GE with just short of a majority and therefore now arguably has a responsibility to form a government, if she is in a position to do so.
    She can resign as party leader but remain as PM for the transition.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 38,937
    MaxPB said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    It is one of the most moderate Conservatives - Ruth Davidson - that has saved the Tories tonight. The country has not swung as right, as some Conservatives imagined that it had.

    Theresa May isn't right wing.
    She's been led by your dog-collar. And you're sitting pretty in Switzerland. The rest of us have to live with this result.
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    RobinWiggsRobinWiggs Posts: 621
    Presumably the boundary review is dead? Again.
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    https://twitter.com/nickeardleybbc/status/873018437257318400
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    old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    Dura_Ace said:

    Scott_P said:

    Were you up for Alex Salmond?

    Hell yes :smiley:

    He won't give a fuck, he'll be off to the Lords.
    Nope.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Labour now officially exceeded their 2015 seats total.
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    volcanopetevolcanopete Posts: 2,078
    Colne Valley Labour gain.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961
    RobinWiggs said:

    Presumably the boundary review is dead? Again.

    Yeah. Maybe revivable if the 650 number is kept. But that would involve going back to the drawing board, again.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 38,937
    When was the last self-inflicted disaster at this scale?
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607
    edited June 2017
    JosiasJessop said:

    MaxPB said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    It is one of the most moderate Conservatives - Ruth Davidson - that has saved the Tories tonight. The country has not swung as right, as some Conservatives imagined that it had.

    Theresa May isn't right wing.
    She's been led by your dog-collar. And you're sitting pretty in Switzerland. The rest of us have to live with this result.
    I think you'll find I'm in Enfield right now.

    And when did I tell her to confiscate people's homes?
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    TravelJunkieTravelJunkie Posts: 431
    Tories close to majority.

    5 more years of Tory government.
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    not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,341
    As someone said earlier tonight, Gordon Brown is now vindicated for not calling an election in 2007
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,717
    Danny565 said:

    Labour now officially exceeded their 2015 seats total.

    Hmm - I think I promised to donate money to them if they managed that. Darn.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961
    TravelJunkie said:

    Tories close to majority.

    5 more years of Tory government.

    Still need 74 seats :p
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    spudgfshspudgfsh Posts: 1,302
    i just tweeted George Freeman (mid norfolk tory) about him being next Tory leader and got a like. Feels like he may challenge now
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 38,937
    MaxPB said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    MaxPB said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    It is one of the most moderate Conservatives - Ruth Davidson - that has saved the Tories tonight. The country has not swung as right, as some Conservatives imagined that it had.

    Theresa May isn't right wing.
    She's been led by your dog-collar. And you're sitting pretty in Switzerland. The rest of us have to live with this result.
    I think you'll find I'm in Enfield right now.
    for how long?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,359
    JosiasJessop said:

    When was the last self-inflicted disaster at this scale?

    Ted Heath 1974.

    Or Baldwin in 1923
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    ChameleonChameleon Posts: 3,886
    AlastairMeeks said:

    https://twitter.com/nickeardleybbc/status/873018437257318400

    Holy moly #5. 14 Scons?
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,717
    RobD said:

    TravelJunkie said:

    Tories close to majority.

    5 more years of Tory government.

    Still need 74 seats :p
    Only 100 left aren't there?!
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    MyBurningEarsMyBurningEars Posts: 3,651
    kle4 said:

    Danny565 said:

    Labour now officially exceeded their 2015 seats total.

    Hmm - I think I promised to donate money to them if they managed that. Darn.
    You didn't promise to donate it now, though, did you?

    Why not wait until they have a leader and policy position you find more amenable :)
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    The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Danny565 said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    MaxPB said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    It is one of the most moderate Conservatives - Ruth Davidson - that has saved the Tories tonight. The country has not swung as right, as some Conservatives imagined that it had.

    Theresa May isn't right wing.
    She's more to the right that Ruth is.
    Not sure she is. As far as I can see, beyond being anti-independence, Davidson doesn't really seem to have any clear politics.
    I'd disagree. Davidson is socially liberal, fiscally conservative. She's be on the left of the party, where Ken Clarke is.
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    JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 38,937
    Danny565 said:

    Labour now officially exceeded their 2015 seats total.

    All the Europhobes have done is make Corbyn a God.
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    BigIanBigIan Posts: 198
    The SNP forecast is less than the number of seats they've already won.
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    another_richardanother_richard Posts: 25,056
    Conservatives get 41% in Bolsover.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607
    JosiasJessop said:

    MaxPB said:

    JosiasJessop said:

    MaxPB said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    It is one of the most moderate Conservatives - Ruth Davidson - that has saved the Tories tonight. The country has not swung as right, as some Conservatives imagined that it had.

    Theresa May isn't right wing.
    She's been led by your dog-collar. And you're sitting pretty in Switzerland. The rest of us have to live with this result.
    I think you'll find I'm in Enfield right now.
    for how long?
    At least until Monday.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,253
    Inflation has got so bad that even free money has become very expensive.
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    alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    Con hold Northampton North. Thought somebody said they lost that
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    https://twitter.com/generalboles/status/873018000244219904
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961
    kle4 said:

    RobD said:

    TravelJunkie said:

    Tories close to majority.

    5 more years of Tory government.

    Still need 74 seats :p
    Only 100 left aren't there?!
    Yeah, but a lot of big rural seats left.
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    MaxPB said:


    I think you'll find I'm in Enfield right now.

    JosiasJessop said:


    for how long?

    Stalker.

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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,717
    MyBurningEars said:

    kle4 said:

    Danny565 said:

    Labour now officially exceeded their 2015 seats total.

    Hmm - I think I promised to donate money to them if they managed that. Darn.
    You didn't promise to donate it now, though, did you?

    Why not wait until they have a leader and policy position you find more amenable :)
    A loophole,I like it. Also I'm poorer than I was anticipating being tonight, so it'd have to wait anyway.
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    PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited June 2017
    Does anyone remember the Copeland byelection?

    Seems so long ago, now.
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    Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    BBC projecting a 3% Tory lead. 43 to 40.
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    old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    SKY- UKIP's current share is 1.9%
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,359
    The Tory fuck ups

    1) May backing Fox hunting
    2) Dementia tax and pretending you hadn't u-turned
    3) Theresa May failing the Turing Test
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    MyBurningEarsMyBurningEars Posts: 3,651
    kle4 said:

    MyBurningEars said:

    kle4 said:

    Danny565 said:

    Labour now officially exceeded their 2015 seats total.

    Hmm - I think I promised to donate money to them if they managed that. Darn.
    You didn't promise to donate it now, though, did you?

    Why not wait until they have a leader and policy position you find more amenable :)
    A loophole,I like it. Also I'm poorer than I was anticipating being tonight, so it'd have to wait anyway.
    My law degree was not in vain :)
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,607
    Danny565 said:

    BBC projecting a 3% Tory lead. 43 to 40.

    Poor.
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    KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,850
    Tory vote share 43%.
    Labour vote share 40%.

    Mental.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,302
    Tories shouldn't have lost seats like Portsmouth South, Canterbury, Peterborough, Ipswich, Lincoln, Bedford, and Warwick & Leamington.

    There's the majority, right there.

    And it could have been worse. Much worse.

    Ruth Davidson has saved the country.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @BradenDavy: The best part about the Gordon result was the fact Alex Salmond had to stand there and watch as Aberdeenshire told him where to go. #GE2017
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    TravelJunkieTravelJunkie Posts: 431
    Labour passed 232 miliband total.
    256 to get to 2010 total
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