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edited January 2018 in General

imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Reshuffling the TMay way – a cock-up over Grayling that will dominate the media narrative

BBC confirming Grayling appointment but advisers saying its speculation and he hasn't been to no10 yet. The Conservatives had tweeted a congrats, though its now disappeared. What is going on!? pic.twitter.com/8GDc0RE4kS

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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,245
    https://twitter.com/AlexHatsila/status/950337497292312581
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,245
    Mrs May couldn't organise a farting contest in a baked bean factory.

    Hell she couldn't arrange a pregnancy on a council estate

    #ShowingOffMyWorkingClassRoots
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,901
    edited January 2018
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/AlexHatsila/status/950337497292312581

    The highs, the lows. It was a hell of a ride. Great times. Sadly he leaves the party with a slightly worse reputation than when he got the job.
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,901
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Mrs May couldn't organise a farting contest in a baked bean factory.

    Hell she couldn't arrange a pregnancy on a council estate

    #ShowingOffMyWorkingClassRoots

    Fortunately these guys are not running the country during a critical period.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,964
    It's amusing but doesn't matter at all. What people really care about is accurate reporting on the Second Punic War and the Diadochi era.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,789
    edited January 2018
    If Chris Grayling finishes up sacked and on the back benches after being party chairman for two minutes it'll be a real pisser for him! :D
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    2nd edition of the Standard will be fun
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    I rather like Chris Grayling, because he came out with my all-time favourite political gaffe:

    http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2009/10/7/embarrassed-grayling-dismisses-tory-gimmick

    Looks like he might have been out-gaffed today though.
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    edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,141
    More consequentially, judging by the twitters Oprah is now the presumptive nominee.
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,606
    What an awful start. She's just completely useless.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,789
    Anyway, what sort of party chair do we think Brandon Lewis will make?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,245
    MaxPB said:

    What an awful start. She's just completely useless.

    You've only just realised she's awful?

    I guess I need to stop being so neutral towards Mrs May in my thread headers and really criticise her.
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    MaxPB said:

    What an awful start. She's just completely useless.

    It's unlikely to be her cock-up.
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,387
    GIN1138 said:

    Anyway, what sort of party chair do we think Brandon Lewis will make?

    Half of the tragedy here is that Brandon is a perfectly good choice.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,570
    https://twitter.com/iainmartin1/status/950338647328423936
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,245
    GIN1138 said:

    Anyway, what sort of party chair do we think Brandon Lewis will make?

    He'll appeal to the Brexit/working class Labour voters, I suspect he won't attract Dave's Blue Liberals though.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,245
    Sir Patrick McLoughlin leaves the cabinet.
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    calumcalum Posts: 3,046
    Nigel Dodds will be new NI Sec at this rate
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,570
    https://twitter.com/gsoh31/status/950339347311669248
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,140
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Anyway, what sort of party chair do we think Brandon Lewis will make?

    He'll appeal to the Brexit/working class Labour voters, I suspect he won't attract Dave's Blue Liberals though.
    Nobody will notice. Only Boris would have made any difference (in public) as party chair.

    Behind the scenes re-orgs are another matter.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,242
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Anyway, what sort of party chair do we think Brandon Lewis will make?

    Half of the tragedy here is that Brandon is a perfectly good choice.
    He is a good choice and today shows just how much is needed for the party to overhaul it's use of IT
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    oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,831
    Deep breaths everyone. There is no point getting over excited by this sort of 'story'

    A breakdown in communication, yes. A major political story? No.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,789
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Anyway, what sort of party chair do we think Brandon Lewis will make?

    He'll appeal to the Brexit/working class Labour voters, I suspect he won't attract Dave's Blue Liberals though.
    Isn't party chair more of an organisational role?

    Is he the sort of character that could help mastermind a winning election campaign like Michael Green MP? ;)
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,570
    Send three and fourpence we're going to a dance.....

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/950340028605100032
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Former Conservative Party Chairman, Chris Grayling, has issued the following statement :

    "During my considerable tenure as Chairman much has been achieved. Not least the stability of the government in trying times. Unemployment has fallen by two and inflation remains on course. I have steadied the electoral situation and no seats have been lost at either local or national level.

    I'd like to thank the Prime Minister for the opportunity to serve the Conservative Party as Chairman at such length and look forward to further opportunities to bring my experience in that post to other positions."
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,140
    https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/950337763819360257
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,606
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MaxPB said:

    What an awful start. She's just completely useless.

    You've only just realised she's awful?

    I guess I need to stop being so neutral towards Mrs May in my thread headers and really criticise her.
    I've been on the May is crap train for longer than most. I boarded the day the dementia tax was announced. Everyone else told me it wasn't going to register, I was sure that the Tories had just thrown away any chance of a majority.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,570
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    MaxPB said:

    What an awful start. She's just completely useless.

    It's unlikely to be her cock-up.
    It isn't:

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/950337209814667265
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    oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,831
    Cleverly into No10 - expected to be Deputy Chair
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,242
    edited January 2018
    James Cleverly just gone in as deputy chair
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,789
    JackW said:

    Former Conservative Party Chairman, Chris Grayling, has issued the following statement :

    "During my considerable tenure as Chairman much has been achieved. Not least the stability of the government in trying times. Unemployment has fallen by two and inflation remains on course. I have steadied the electoral situation and no seats have been lost at either local or national level.

    I'd like to thank the Prime Minister for the opportunity to serve the Conservative Party as Chairman at such length and look forward to further opportunities to bring my experience in that post to other positions."

    :D
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    JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,901
    People are reading this wrong.

    May is practicing a new form of interactive reshuffle. It's a bit like the X-Factor. The job is announced, the public votes, no10 responds dynamically.

    Amazing cutting edge C21 politics in action.

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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,570
    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/950339728905302016
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,789
    MaxPB said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MaxPB said:

    What an awful start. She's just completely useless.

    You've only just realised she's awful?

    I guess I need to stop being so neutral towards Mrs May in my thread headers and really criticise her.
    I've been on the May is crap train for longer than most. I boarded the day the dementia tax was announced. Everyone else told me it wasn't going to register, I was sure that the Tories had just thrown away any chance of a majority.
    I always knew dementia tax and WFA changes would be a disaster as well. :D
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,914
    My guess is that the reporting will mention the Grayling balls up but that it will not dominate anything - it happened early and was very quickly rectified. Shame, it would have been hilarious.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,789
    CarlottaVance said:

    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/950339728905302016

    Oh dear! Sounds potentially very serious.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,570
    That went well then:

    https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/950341307540570113
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    tpfkartpfkar Posts: 1,546
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/AlexHatsila/status/950337497292312581

    Can't even get the year right. Come on, Wikipedia....
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    oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,831
    CarlottaVance said:

    https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/950339728905302016

    I hope everything goes well for him. Lung surgery is never without risks sadly.
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,387
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    James Cleverly just gone in as deputy chair

    Another good choice. But for the CCHQ cock up...
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    Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 30,918
    MaxPB said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MaxPB said:

    What an awful start. She's just completely useless.

    You've only just realised she's awful?

    I guess I need to stop being so neutral towards Mrs May in my thread headers and really criticise her.
    I've been on the May is crap train for longer than most. I boarded the day the dementia tax was announced. Everyone else told me it wasn't going to register, I was sure that the Tories had just thrown away any chance of a majority.
    I can beat you. :) I thought she was crap back when she was Home Secretary and TSE still liked her. Authoritarian, ignorant of practicalities and thought she could ride rough shod over both the judiciary and the law. Not really changed since she became PM.
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    SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,914
    Of course, the far bigger Chris Grayling story is how on earth he is in the cabinet.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,789
    SouthamObserver said:

    Of course, the far bigger Chris Grayling story is how on earth he is in the cabinet.

    Hang about he might not be for much longer... ;)
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    Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,287
    What a fiasco with Grayling. The media will be primed to pick up on any repetition of Theresa's conference-speech calamity, and this has revived the notion that she's hapless and surrounded by nincompoops. This should have been Theresa's big moment, and it's already ruined. Who employs these people?
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,311
    CarlottaVance said:

    Richard_Nabavi said:

    MaxPB said:

    What an awful start. She's just completely useless.

    It's unlikely to be her cock-up.
    It isn't:

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/950337209814667265
    Her reshuffle, presumably conducted in a manner set by her....
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    AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    Shuffling the deckchairs on the Titanic more like.
    CarlottaVance said:

    Send three and fourpence we're going to a dance.....

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/950340028605100032

    Yet another blunder for the all-at-sea May and her crew of halfwits. As she attempts to shuffle the broken deckchairs on the Titanic her intellectually challenged acolytes are providing a ready supply of icebergs. Someone finally sink this empty hull and put us all out of our misery!
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,570
    https://twitter.com/WikiGuido/status/950341741688885250
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,124
    SouthamObserver said:

    My guess is that the reporting will mention the Grayling balls up but that it will not dominate anything - it happened early and was very quickly rectified. Shame, it would have been hilarious.

    I have to say I'd be delighted that CG will not be party chairman.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    GIN1138 said:

    MaxPB said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MaxPB said:

    What an awful start. She's just completely useless.

    You've only just realised she's awful?

    I guess I need to stop being so neutral towards Mrs May in my thread headers and really criticise her.
    I've been on the May is crap train for longer than most. I boarded the day the dementia tax was announced. Everyone else told me it wasn't going to register, I was sure that the Tories had just thrown away any chance of a majority.
    I always knew dementia tax and WFA changes would be a disaster as well. :D
    Without the dementia tax the WFA change was by itself small enough to be an acceptable form of "we're all in it together". The dementia tax was the killer and that made the WFA a further kick in the ghoulies while already down.
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    Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 30,918
    SouthamObserver said:

    Of course, the far bigger Chris Grayling story is how on earth he is in the cabinet.

    So if she decides to keep Grayling at Transport, does that mean he was both Party Chairman and Transport Secretary at the same time. Great value for money these Tory ministers. :)
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,140
    Stark_Dawning said:

    What a fiasco with Grayling. The media will be primed to pick up on any repetition of Theresa's conference-speech calamity, and this has revived the notion that she's hapless and surrounded by nincompoops. This should have been Theresa's big moment, and it's already ruined. Who employs these people?

    Er, the Party Chair presumably?
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    DadgeDadge Posts: 2,038
    CarlottaVance said:

    https://twitter.com/iainmartin1/status/950338647328423936

    Stop being such an apologist, Carlotta. You know that incompetence registers with voters.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @paulwaugh: Labour proving they really are better at this Twitter lark... https://twitter.com/AndyMcDonaldMP/status/950338378570129408
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    AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    JackW said:

    Former Conservative Party Chairman, Chris Grayling, has issued the following statement :

    "During my considerable tenure as Chairman much has been achieved. Not least the stability of the government in trying times. Unemployment has fallen by two and inflation remains on course. I have steadied the electoral situation and no seats have been lost at either local or national level.

    I'd like to thank the Prime Minister for the opportunity to serve the Conservative Party as Chairman at such length and look forward to further opportunities to bring my experience in that post to other positions."

    In fairness he has probably achieved more in his brief chairmanship than in his entire tenure as transport secretary. Credit where it is due.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,311
    CarlottaVance said:

    https://twitter.com/WikiGuido/status/950341741688885250

    That's a little economical with the actualite - Kuenssberg actually said "Two sources suggesting Grayling new chair at Tory HQ - not officially confirmed though..."

    Hardly a confirmation by the BBC.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,242
    Anazina said:

    Shuffling the deckchairs on the Titanic more like.

    CarlottaVance said:

    Send three and fourpence we're going to a dance.....

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/950340028605100032

    Yet another blunder for the all-at-sea May and her crew of halfwits. As she attempts to shuffle the broken deckchairs on the Titanic her intellectually challenged acolytes are providing a ready supply of icebergs. Someone finally sink this empty hull and put us all out of our misery!
    You will have a long wait (2022) and if you think it is misery just now it is nothing compared with the disaster a Corbyn led government would be
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    AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    oxfordsimon said:

    Deep breaths everyone. There is no point getting over excited by this sort of 'story'

    A breakdown in communication, yes. A major political story? No.


    Indeed. The major story is the woeful lack of talent in the Tory party.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,570
    felix said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    My guess is that the reporting will mention the Grayling balls up but that it will not dominate anything - it happened early and was very quickly rectified. Shame, it would have been hilarious.

    I have to say I'd be delighted that CG will not be party chairman.
    Yes. The Labour posters who were cock-a-hoop and the TCO acolytes decrying 'another May blunder' have gone curiously quiet.....
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    AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Anyway, what sort of party chair do we think Brandon Lewis will make?

    He'll appeal to the Brexit/working class Labour voters, I suspect he won't attract Dave's Blue Liberals though.
    He'll make sod all difference.
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    Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,287
    Is the 'cock-up' theory about Grayling just a smokescreen? Perhaps he was offered the job but flatly refused, humiliating Theresa in the process. We'll need to see whether she has the nerve to sack a big beast, or this is just vapid window dressing.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,570
    Stark_Dawning said:

    Is the 'cock-up' theory about Grayling just a smokescreen? Perhaps he was offered the job but flatly refused, humiliating Theresa in the process. We'll need to see whether she has the nerve to sack a big beast, or this is just vapid window dressing.

    Grayling is not due in Downing St until 12.30 - after the Party Chairmanship is announced....
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,789
    edited January 2018
    Stark_Dawning said:

    Is the 'cock-up' theory about Grayling just a smokescreen? Perhaps he was offered the job but flatly refused, humiliating Theresa in the process. We'll need to see whether she has the nerve to sack a big beast, or this is just vapid window dressing.

    Why would he have refused? Party chairman is a promotion from transport isn't it?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,245
    CarlottaVance said:

    felix said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    My guess is that the reporting will mention the Grayling balls up but that it will not dominate anything - it happened early and was very quickly rectified. Shame, it would have been hilarious.

    I have to say I'd be delighted that CG will not be party chairman.
    Yes. The Labour posters who were cock-a-hoop and the TCO acolytes decrying 'another May blunder' have gone curiously quiet.....
    There are no American tanks in Baghdad.

    If you don't think this doesn't reflect badly on Mrs May nor will it be used to mock Theresa May then you're seriously deluded.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,245
    https://twitter.com/labourwhips/status/950343421805416449
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,242
    Anazina said:

    oxfordsimon said:

    Deep breaths everyone. There is no point getting over excited by this sort of 'story'

    A breakdown in communication, yes. A major political story? No.


    Indeed. The major story is the woeful lack of talent in the Tory party.
    As opposed to the utter lack of any form of talent on Corbyn's front bench
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @paulwaugh: If either minister is still in place by then... https://twitter.com/labourwhips/status/950343421805416449
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    AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Anazina said:

    Shuffling the deckchairs on the Titanic more like.

    CarlottaVance said:

    Send three and fourpence we're going to a dance.....

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/950340028605100032

    Yet another blunder for the all-at-sea May and her crew of halfwits. As she attempts to shuffle the broken deckchairs on the Titanic her intellectually challenged acolytes are providing a ready supply of icebergs. Someone finally sink this empty hull and put us all out of our misery!
    You will have a long wait (2022) and if you think it is misery just now it is nothing compared with the disaster a Corbyn led government would be
    I was once of the view that Corbyn was an extremist. He is now clearly a moderate when compared to the xenophobes of the Brexit Right that hold sway over the weak as paper Theresa May. They say everything in life is relative.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,570
    Dadge said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    https://twitter.com/iainmartin1/status/950338647328423936

    Stop being such an apologist, Carlotta. You know that incompetence registers with voters.

    https://twitter.com/gsoh31/status/950336956747124736
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,242
    edited January 2018
    Anazina said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Anyway, what sort of party chair do we think Brandon Lewis will make?

    He'll appeal to the Brexit/working class Labour voters, I suspect he won't attract Dave's Blue Liberals though.
    He'll make sod all difference.
    You will be surprised - Lewis and Cleverly are excellent appointments
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,245
    @PickardJE: Patrick McLoughlin copped lots of blame for disastrous snap election, while David Davis - who cajoled May into it - has largely got away unscathed.
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    AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    CarlottaVance said:

    felix said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    My guess is that the reporting will mention the Grayling balls up but that it will not dominate anything - it happened early and was very quickly rectified. Shame, it would have been hilarious.

    I have to say I'd be delighted that CG will not be party chairman.
    Yes. The Labour posters who were cock-a-hoop and the TCO acolytes decrying 'another May blunder' have gone curiously quiet.....
    I suspect most 'Labour posters' indeed most of the country couldn't give a shit either way to be perfectly honest. One unmitigated chump replaced by another. Who cares?
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    TheJezziahTheJezziah Posts: 3,840
    Anazina said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Anyway, what sort of party chair do we think Brandon Lewis will make?

    He'll appeal to the Brexit/working class Labour voters, I suspect he won't attract Dave's Blue Liberals though.
    He'll make sod all difference.
    I'd imagine most of those that could be brought in would have already voted conservative. There can't be a huge number out there that didn't but could without major changes.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,570
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    felix said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    My guess is that the reporting will mention the Grayling balls up but that it will not dominate anything - it happened early and was very quickly rectified. Shame, it would have been hilarious.

    I have to say I'd be delighted that CG will not be party chairman.
    Yes. The Labour posters who were cock-a-hoop and the TCO acolytes decrying 'another May blunder' have gone curiously quiet.....
    If you don't think this doesn't reflect badly on Mrs May nor will it be used to mock Theresa May then you're seriously deluded.
    A mistake by a CCHQ staffer 'reflects badly on Mrs May'?

    I'm seriously deluded?
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    AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    Richard_Tyndall said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Of course, the far bigger Chris Grayling story is how on earth he is in the cabinet.

    So if she decides to keep Grayling at Transport, does that mean he was both Party Chairman and Transport Secretary at the same time. Great value for money these Tory ministers. :)

    Schrodinger's minister?
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,311
    Some might differ ?

    Sir Patrick McLoughlin, the outgoing Conservative party chairman, has confirmed that he has left the cabinet. Speaking to Sky News, he said that he had been in cabinet for eight years and that he had had “a very good run”....
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,789
    Dadge said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    https://twitter.com/iainmartin1/status/950338647328423936

    Stop being such an apologist, Carlotta. You know that incompetence registers with voters.
    Incompetence registers with voters when it adversely affects them. This won't.
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    AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    Stark_Dawning said:

    What a fiasco with Grayling. The media will be primed to pick up on any repetition of Theresa's conference-speech calamity, and this has revived the notion that she's hapless and surrounded by nincompoops. This should have been Theresa's big moment, and it's already ruined. Who employs these people?


    The DUP.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,789
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @PickardJE: Patrick McLoughlin copped lots of blame for disastrous snap election, while David Davis - who cajoled May into it - has largely got away unscathed.

    Having an election wasn't the problem. That ******* manifesto was the problem... ;)
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,311
    CarlottaVance said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    felix said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    My guess is that the reporting will mention the Grayling balls up but that it will not dominate anything - it happened early and was very quickly rectified. Shame, it would have been hilarious.

    I have to say I'd be delighted that CG will not be party chairman.
    Yes. The Labour posters who were cock-a-hoop and the TCO acolytes decrying 'another May blunder' have gone curiously quiet.....
    If you don't think this doesn't reflect badly on Mrs May nor will it be used to mock Theresa May then you're seriously deluded.
    A mistake by a CCHQ staffer 'reflects badly on Mrs May'?

    I'm seriously deluded?
    So under Mrs May, the buck stops... somewhere else ?
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    AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    Dadge said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    https://twitter.com/iainmartin1/status/950338647328423936

    Stop being such an apologist, Carlotta. You know that incompetence registers with voters.

    Carlotta is a one-woman Tory rebuttal bot operating under orders from Central Office.
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    DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    rottenborough said:

    Stark_Dawning said:

    What a fiasco with Grayling. The media will be primed to pick up on any repetition of Theresa's conference-speech calamity, and this has revived the notion that she's hapless and surrounded by nincompoops. This should have been Theresa's big moment, and it's already ruined. Who employs these people?

    Er, the Party Chair presumably?
    Who is the party chair? Chris Grayling? Sack him!
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Anyway, to the substance. Are Jeremy Hunt, Michael Gove, David Gauke and David Lidington all going to get whopping promotions?
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 39,952
    So attention deflected from the Tobester, who was deflecting attention from the reshuffle, which was deflecting attention from Brexishambles; the 'hard to hit a moving target' strategy.

    The one unbreakable rule is that the buck will zoom past Tessy at near supersonic speeds.
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,789
    Priti Patel returns to the Cabinet as Justice Secretary.
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    Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,242
    Anazina said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Anazina said:

    Shuffling the deckchairs on the Titanic more like.

    CarlottaVance said:

    Send three and fourpence we're going to a dance.....

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/950340028605100032

    Yet another blunder for the all-at-sea May and her crew of halfwits. As she attempts to shuffle the broken deckchairs on the Titanic her intellectually challenged acolytes are providing a ready supply of icebergs. Someone finally sink this empty hull and put us all out of our misery!
    You will have a long wait (2022) and if you think it is misery just now it is nothing compared with the disaster a Corbyn led government would be
    I was once of the view that Corbyn was an extremist. He is now clearly a moderate when compared to the xenophobes of the Brexit Right that hold sway over the weak as paper Theresa May. They say everything in life is relative.
    If Corbyn is a moderate how further left can you go
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,570
    Anazina said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    felix said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    My guess is that the reporting will mention the Grayling balls up but that it will not dominate anything - it happened early and was very quickly rectified. Shame, it would have been hilarious.

    I have to say I'd be delighted that CG will not be party chairman.
    Yes. The Labour posters who were cock-a-hoop and the TCO acolytes decrying 'another May blunder' have gone curiously quiet.....
    I suspect most 'Labour posters'.... couldn't give a shit either way
    You evidently missed their (over) excited posts when Grayling was reportedly getting the job.....
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,570
    https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/950344742298095616
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    SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,704
    Sean_F said:

    Priti Patel returns to the Cabinet as Justice Secretary.

    lol really? That was a long time in disgrace then..
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,311
    Anazina said:

    Dadge said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    https://twitter.com/iainmartin1/status/950338647328423936

    Stop being such an apologist, Carlotta. You know that incompetence registers with voters.

    Carlotta is a one-woman Tory rebuttal bot operating under orders from Central Office.
    No - she is, perfectly respectably, a Theresa May loyalist, in much the same way that TSE has remained loyal to George Osborne through his various ups and downs.
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,789
    Anazina said:

    Dadge said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    https://twitter.com/iainmartin1/status/950338647328423936

    Stop being such an apologist, Carlotta. You know that incompetence registers with voters.

    Carlotta is a one-woman Tory rebuttal bot operating under orders from Central Office.
    Pots and kettles.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,789
    Sean_F said:

    Priti Patel returns to the Cabinet as Justice Secretary.

    ? :open_mouth:
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    AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    Sean_F said:

    Priti Patel returns to the Cabinet as Justice Secretary.

    Good lord. Patel is thick as a brick. As this clip ably demonstrates.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DrsVhzbLzU
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,245
    Sean_F said:

    Priti Patel returns to the Cabinet as Justice Secretary.

    Fake News.
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,789
    Only teasing.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,311
    Slackbladder said:

    Sean_F said:

    Priti Patel returns to the Cabinet as Justice Secretary.

    lol really? That was a long time in disgrace then..
    An authoritarian who is happy to play fast and loose with the rules.
    Not exactly the best choice for the job.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Oh, Trump Tower is on fire...
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    FoxyFoxy Posts: 44,491
    GIN1138 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    @PickardJE: Patrick McLoughlin copped lots of blame for disastrous snap election, while David Davis - who cajoled May into it - has largely got away unscathed.

    Having an election wasn't the problem. That ******* manifesto was the problem... ;)
    And the refusal to debate, the bizarelre Strong and Stable cult of personality, the surprising level of enthusiasm in the country for an old socialist, Former kippers going back to Labour. It wasn't just the manifesto it was an omnishambles.

    Not clear why the party should recover its svelte Cameron touch, indeed it seems to be travelling into the competence level of a UKIP leadership contest.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,140
    GIN1138 said:

    Sean_F said:

    Priti Patel returns to the Cabinet as Justice Secretary.

    ? :open_mouth:
    source?
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    AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    Nigelb said:

    Anazina said:

    Dadge said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    https://twitter.com/iainmartin1/status/950338647328423936

    Stop being such an apologist, Carlotta. You know that incompetence registers with voters.

    Carlotta is a one-woman Tory rebuttal bot operating under orders from Central Office.
    No - she is, perfectly respectably, a Theresa May loyalist, in much the same way that TSE has remained loyal to George Osborne through his various ups and downs.
    I believe you, thousands wouldn't.
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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Anazina said:

    Dadge said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    https://twitter.com/iainmartin1/status/950338647328423936

    Stop being such an apologist, Carlotta. You know that incompetence registers with voters.

    Carlotta is a one-woman Tory rebuttal bot operating under orders from Central Office.
    Just compare Carolotta with David Herdson who is a very strong Tory but can look at his party objectively. The former is tedious the latter is always a must read.
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