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It hasn’t been the best of periods for Commons Speaker, John Bercow, who now finds himself embroiled in a row of what he might or might not have said about Andrea Leadsom. This follows the bullying allegations that have been aired a lot recently.

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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,251
    FPT

    Monarchism is essentially a form of Socialism! "What are you on about, Sunil?" I hear you cry!

    Well, consider:

    1) Monarchs have a job for life, which is quintessentially Socialist!

    2) The hereditary principle, a feature of Socialist dynasties around the world, such as the Kennedys in the USA, Nehru-Gandhis in India, and the Kims in North Korea!

    3) Pomp and circumstance - Trooping the Colour is after all merely a toned down version of all those North Korean and (former) Soviet military parades!

    So, my fellow PBers, I put it to you that Monarchism = Socialism!

    :)
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,936
    @Gardenwalker - thanks for posting that NYT article about the v/c economy. Very interesting.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,797
    edited May 2018
    I don't think what he said to Andrea Leadsom is especially damaging (other than it appears to confirm a pattern of behaviour) but the bullying allegations against his staff are very damaging as if the fact he appears to want to hide from scrutiny and investigation.

    In this modern day a leading public figure can't hide from transparency and fact Bercow is attempting to stop himself being investigated may well be what does for him in the end.

    Actually as soon as the allegations emerged on Newsnight he should have referred himself for investigation by the Commons authorities....

    If you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to fear etc.
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
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    JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Don't you like freedom?
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,492
    "Needs to take inspiration from Ansene..."

    He's there for the rest of this parliament, and probably beyond, then ?
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Probably the bit about the EU being a malign authoritarian power.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,360
    So which MP is Mikel Arteta?
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    GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 20,847
    Mortimer said:

    @Gardenwalker - thanks for posting that NYT article about the v/c economy. Very interesting.

    Thanks. It touches upon several issues of importance to me: the collapse of productivity growth; geographical inequality (winner cities vs loser regions); capitalism without capital etc etc.
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Don't you like freedom?
    Britain already has it. The clear implication that at present it doesn't is both absurd and offensive.
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    RobD said:

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Probably the bit about the EU being a malign authoritarian power.
    If you're unable to read what I wrote originally, that's your problem.
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    GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 20,847

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Don't you like freedom?
    When it comes to leaving the EU, it seems like Janis Joplin described it best,

    “Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose.”
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,189

    So which MP is Mikel Arteta?

    So you looking for someone who's worked under him and then gone off to do something else.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,360
    tlg86 said:

    So which MP is Mikel Arteta?

    So you looking for someone who's worked under him and then gone off to do something else.
    Are you underwhelmed by that choice?

    I think he is being appointed because the rumours of the new manager only having a £50million war chest this summer.
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    JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548
    edited May 2018

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Don't you like freedom?
    Britain already has it. The clear implication that at present it doesn't is both absurd and offensive.
    We don't have the freedom to remove VAT from women's sanitary products.

    That's absurd and offensive.

    Do you think freedom should only be celebrated by slaves and George Michael?
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,597
    Slight cock-up in Jezza's office: I've just received an email congratulating me on being elected as a councillor.


    This arrived 6 minutes after the email saying hard luck you didn't win, but thanks for standing.
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    GIN1138 said:

    JackW said:

    Pulpstar said:

    My only wish for tommorow is that Henry doesn't go too mad with the razor

    Why would he?

    Perhaps the likely next Duke of Sussex likes the look .... but more importantly what Scottish peerage will be conferred upon Prince Henry .... Earl of Auchentennach ? .... :smile:
    Assume you and Lady Jack will be raising a wee dram (or nine) to the happy couple tomorrow? :D
    Only nine drams !!! .... what a piss poor show .... :sunglasses:
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    AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    edited May 2018
    Previous thread

    I would tend to agree with @MorrisDancer about the word mansplaining. Not only is it a contrived neologism, I don't know why we need yet another gendered term.

    This is not to undermine in any way Garden's point about HYUFD's knowledge of west London geography, which remains laughable.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961

    RobD said:

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Probably the bit about the EU being a malign authoritarian power.
    If you're unable to read what I wrote originally, that's your problem.
    Huh? You said they commonly describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power.
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    Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    edited May 2018
    FPT:

    Elliot said:

    Mr. P, 'mansplain' remains a ridiculous and obnoxious comment, regardless of whether Davidson has a point about Sheerman. The idea making a term pejorative by adding a gender-based prefix is a good thing is bloody stupid.

    Completely agree. "To patronise" is the correct term and it can be done by both men and women. However some use "mansplain" as a shorthand way to dismiss a man's opinion without engaging with the point, even when it's not patronising.
    Expect there is a peculiar, gender-based form of patronising. It’s a thing. Deal with it.
    Yes. It is very real, although I accept that most blokes doing it are trying to be helpful.
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    AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487

    FPT

    Monarchism is essentially a form of Socialism! "What are you on about, Sunil?" I hear you cry!

    Well, consider:

    1) Monarchs have a job for life, which is quintessentially Socialist!

    2) The hereditary principle, a feature of Socialist dynasties around the world, such as the Kennedys in the USA, Nehru-Gandhis in India, and the Kims in North Korea!

    3) Pomp and circumstance - Trooping the Colour is after all merely a toned down version of all those North Korean and (former) Soviet military parades!

    So, my fellow PBers, I put it to you that Monarchism = Socialism!

    :)

    Indeed the monarchy is the world's most generous welfare state.
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Montgomerie is a "moderate"?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,360

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Don't you like freedom?
    Britain already has it. The clear implication that at present it doesn't is both absurd and offensive.
    We don't have the freedom to remove VAT from women's sanitary products.

    That's absurd and offensive.

    Do you think freedom should only be celebrated by slaves and George Michael?
    We can still declare war on France.

    That’s all the freedom we need.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,182

    Slight cock-up in Jezza's office: I've just received an email congratulating me on being elected as a councillor.


    This arrived 6 minutes after the email saying hard luck you didn't win, but thanks for standing.

    Maybe they know something you don't yet.
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,797
    JackW said:

    GIN1138 said:

    JackW said:

    Pulpstar said:

    My only wish for tommorow is that Henry doesn't go too mad with the razor

    Why would he?

    Perhaps the likely next Duke of Sussex likes the look .... but more importantly what Scottish peerage will be conferred upon Prince Henry .... Earl of Auchentennach ? .... :smile:
    Assume you and Lady Jack will be raising a wee dram (or nine) to the happy couple tomorrow? :D
    Only nine drams !!! .... what a piss poor show .... :sunglasses:

    I wasn't sure having more than nine drams would mix very well with those "little blue pills" :D
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,189

    tlg86 said:

    So which MP is Mikel Arteta?

    So you looking for someone who's worked under him and then gone off to do something else.
    Are you underwhelmed by that choice?

    I think he is being appointed because the rumours of the new manager only having a £50million war chest this summer.
    They're looking for a yes man who won't complain about the average players purchased by the powers that be.
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Is Mike suggesting that Bercow does an Arsene and spend 22 years in post ?!?

    Enough to give some PBers a right old fit of the vapours .. :smiley:
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961
    Anazina said:

    FPT

    Monarchism is essentially a form of Socialism! "What are you on about, Sunil?" I hear you cry!

    Well, consider:

    1) Monarchs have a job for life, which is quintessentially Socialist!

    2) The hereditary principle, a feature of Socialist dynasties around the world, such as the Kennedys in the USA, Nehru-Gandhis in India, and the Kims in North Korea!

    3) Pomp and circumstance - Trooping the Colour is after all merely a toned down version of all those North Korean and (former) Soviet military parades!

    So, my fellow PBers, I put it to you that Monarchism = Socialism!

    :)

    Indeed the monarchy is the world's most generous welfare state.
    Socialism for the few, not the many!
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    AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487

    Slight cock-up in Jezza's office: I've just received an email congratulating me on being elected as a councillor.


    This arrived 6 minutes after the email saying hard luck you didn't win, but thanks for standing.

    Maybe they know something you don't yet.
    A lot of the councillors around my way seem to have no clue that they are one.
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    AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    RobD said:

    Anazina said:

    FPT

    Monarchism is essentially a form of Socialism! "What are you on about, Sunil?" I hear you cry!

    Well, consider:

    1) Monarchs have a job for life, which is quintessentially Socialist!

    2) The hereditary principle, a feature of Socialist dynasties around the world, such as the Kennedys in the USA, Nehru-Gandhis in India, and the Kims in North Korea!

    3) Pomp and circumstance - Trooping the Colour is after all merely a toned down version of all those North Korean and (former) Soviet military parades!

    So, my fellow PBers, I put it to you that Monarchism = Socialism!

    :)

    Indeed the monarchy is the world's most generous welfare state.
    Socialism for the few, not the many!
    :D
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    edited May 2018
    FPT
    TOPPING said:

    TOPPING said:

    Elliot said:

    As a republican, I get how the wedding of the future King is important. I even get how the wedding of the future King's brother deserves coverage as a national celebration. What I don't get is how who is walking the bride down the aisle is front page news.

    YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN!???

    Now I would have thought the union set of republicans and Brexiters would be super small.
    *raised hand*

    Plus I know many more.

    Republicanism: A belief we should democratically choose our own head of state.
    Brexitism: A belief we should democratically choose our own government.

    Why are those incompatible? They're entirely consistent.
    Yes well I suppose they are (further cries of "No, I am Spartacus" around the PB halls).

    I just never thought about it - does it (the Brexitation) stem from your dislike of the EU inhibiting the creation of a true socialist state?
    As I'm a Tory no its not.

    Its my dislike of the EU being not democratic. In my eyes it is too socialist and not libertarian enough for me. We may not elect governments as right wing liberal as I like in the UK but at least in the UK I can vote for it whereas in the EU democracy is moot to continuing to project.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,639

    FPT

    Monarchism is essentially a form of Socialism! "What are you on about, Sunil?" I hear you cry!

    Well, consider:

    1) Monarchs have a job for life, which is quintessentially Socialist!

    2) The hereditary principle, a feature of Socialist dynasties around the world, such as the Kennedys in the USA, Nehru-Gandhis in India, and the Kims in North Korea!

    3) Pomp and circumstance - Trooping the Colour is after all merely a toned down version of all those North Korean and (former) Soviet military parades!

    So, my fellow PBers, I put it to you that Monarchism = Socialism!

    :)

    Black is essentially White! "What are you on about, Ben?" I hear you cry!

    Well, consider:

    1) Black is an extreme form of grey; so is White!

    2) Black and White a both signifiers of plain truth, as in "it's there in black and white"!

    3) Black is often used as a surname; so is White!

    So, my fellow PBers, I put it to you that Black = White!

    :)
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    GIN1138 said:

    JackW said:

    GIN1138 said:

    JackW said:

    Pulpstar said:

    My only wish for tommorow is that Henry doesn't go too mad with the razor

    Why would he?

    Perhaps the likely next Duke of Sussex likes the look .... but more importantly what Scottish peerage will be conferred upon Prince Henry .... Earl of Auchentennach ? .... :smile:
    Assume you and Lady Jack will be raising a wee dram (or nine) to the happy couple tomorrow? :D
    Only nine drams !!! .... what a piss poor show .... :sunglasses:

    I wasn't sure having more than nine drams would mix very well with those "little blue pills" :D
    I'm sure one will rise to the occasion ....
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Montgomerie is a "moderate"?
    He poses as one.
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,976
    Mr. Rentool, were you standing Schrodinger South?

    Miss Anazina, interesting to hear it's a rare area of agreement between us.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961

    FPT

    Monarchism is essentially a form of Socialism! "What are you on about, Sunil?" I hear you cry!

    Well, consider:

    1) Monarchs have a job for life, which is quintessentially Socialist!

    2) The hereditary principle, a feature of Socialist dynasties around the world, such as the Kennedys in the USA, Nehru-Gandhis in India, and the Kims in North Korea!

    3) Pomp and circumstance - Trooping the Colour is after all merely a toned down version of all those North Korean and (former) Soviet military parades!

    So, my fellow PBers, I put it to you that Monarchism = Socialism!

    :)

    Black is essentially White! "What are you on about, Ben?" I hear you cry!

    Well, consider:

    1) Black is an extreme form of grey; so is White!

    2) Black and White a both signifiers of plain truth, as in "it's there in black and white"!

    3) Black is often used as a surname; so is White!

    So, my fellow PBers, I put it to you that Black = White!

    :)
    Be careful when you next encounter a zebra crossing.....
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,639

    Slight cock-up in Jezza's office: I've just received an email congratulating me on being elected as a councillor.


    This arrived 6 minutes after the email saying hard luck you didn't win, but thanks for standing.

    Maybe they know something you don't yet.
    Come the day of the revolution...
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,182
    Here's one for PB:

    https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/997491472646770689

    I suggest Williamson (Derby).
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,914
    On topic, I don't think the 6-4 is a very good bet but Bercow has been shown up for the disgrace he is recently.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,639
    RobD said:

    FPT

    Monarchism is essentially a form of Socialism! "What are you on about, Sunil?" I hear you cry!

    Well, consider:

    1) Monarchs have a job for life, which is quintessentially Socialist!

    2) The hereditary principle, a feature of Socialist dynasties around the world, such as the Kennedys in the USA, Nehru-Gandhis in India, and the Kims in North Korea!

    3) Pomp and circumstance - Trooping the Colour is after all merely a toned down version of all those North Korean and (former) Soviet military parades!

    So, my fellow PBers, I put it to you that Monarchism = Socialism!

    :)

    Black is essentially White! "What are you on about, Ben?" I hear you cry!

    Well, consider:

    1) Black is an extreme form of grey; so is White!

    2) Black and White a both signifiers of plain truth, as in "it's there in black and white"!

    3) Black is often used as a surname; so is White!

    So, my fellow PBers, I put it to you that Black = White!

    :)
    Be careful when you next encounter a zebra crossing.....
    What's a zebra crossing?
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    AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    Morris

    I suspect we would agree on many things, we just haven't encountered many yet!
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,914

    Here's one for PB:

    https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/997491472646770689

    I suggest Williamson (Derby).

    Dent-Coad and Williamson joint Favs ?
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,251

    FPT

    Monarchism is essentially a form of Socialism! "What are you on about, Sunil?" I hear you cry!

    Well, consider:

    1) Monarchs have a job for life, which is quintessentially Socialist!

    2) The hereditary principle, a feature of Socialist dynasties around the world, such as the Kennedys in the USA, Nehru-Gandhis in India, and the Kims in North Korea!

    3) Pomp and circumstance - Trooping the Colour is after all merely a toned down version of all those North Korean and (former) Soviet military parades!

    So, my fellow PBers, I put it to you that Monarchism = Socialism!

    :)

    Black is essentially White! "What are you on about, Ben?" I hear you cry!

    Well, consider:

    1) Black is an extreme form of grey; so is White!

    2) Black and White a both signifiers of plain truth, as in "it's there in black and white"!

    3) Black is often used as a surname; so is White!

    So, my fellow PBers, I put it to you that Black = White!

    :)
    I see you didn't explain away the points about Jobs for life? Hereditary principle? Pomp and circumstance? :lol:
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,182
    Pulpstar said:

    Here's one for PB:

    https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/997491472646770689

    I suggest Williamson (Derby).

    Dent-Coad and Williamson joint Favs ?
    DC just nosing ahead judging by the comments in the twitter feed.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,607
    edited May 2018
    I haven't taken Continuity IDS seriously in nearly two decades....but I'm pleased if you think it helps your case....
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    JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548

    RobD said:

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Probably the bit about the EU being a malign authoritarian power.
    If you're unable to read what I wrote originally, that's your problem.
    If leavers absurdly, disgustingly and routinely describe the EU as a malign authoritarian power, you ought to be able to specifically cite plenty of highly amusing examples.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,182
    Another shooting in US.
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    Slight cock-up in Jezza's office: I've just received an email congratulating me on being elected as a councillor.


    This arrived 6 minutes after the email saying hard luck you didn't win, but thanks for standing.


    Well you know Labour like to have all their bases covered.

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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961

    RobD said:

    FPT

    Monarchism is essentially a form of Socialism! "What are you on about, Sunil?" I hear you cry!

    Well, consider:

    1) Monarchs have a job for life, which is quintessentially Socialist!

    2) The hereditary principle, a feature of Socialist dynasties around the world, such as the Kennedys in the USA, Nehru-Gandhis in India, and the Kims in North Korea!

    3) Pomp and circumstance - Trooping the Colour is after all merely a toned down version of all those North Korean and (former) Soviet military parades!

    So, my fellow PBers, I put it to you that Monarchism = Socialism!

    :)

    Black is essentially White! "What are you on about, Ben?" I hear you cry!

    Well, consider:

    1) Black is an extreme form of grey; so is White!

    2) Black and White a both signifiers of plain truth, as in "it's there in black and white"!

    3) Black is often used as a surname; so is White!

    So, my fellow PBers, I put it to you that Black = White!

    :)
    Be careful when you next encounter a zebra crossing.....
    What's a zebra crossing?
    You know, the pedestrian crossings with the grey stripes.... :p
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,492
    Anazina said:

    Previous thread

    I would tend to agree with @MorrisDancer about the word mansplaining. Not only is it a contrived neologism, I don't know why we need yet another gendered term...

    I think it fair enough, given how many insulting gendered terms women have been on the receiving end of in the past. The annoyance it creates is probably a feature rather than a bug...
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,976
    Miss Anazina, that's probably true :)

    The predominance of politics, F1, and the Second Punic War as discussion topics does mean that disagreements there are noticed, whereas potential agreement on other things go either unnoticed entirely or more lightly remarked upon.
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    YorkcityYorkcity Posts: 4,382

    Here's one for PB:

    https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/997491472646770689

    I suggest Williamson (Derby).

    I thought there might be a chance of a religious MP , complaining about divorcees been allowed to marry in church.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,639

    FPT

    Monarchism is essentially a form of Socialism! "What are you on about, Sunil?" I hear you cry!

    Well, consider:

    1) Monarchs have a job for life, which is quintessentially Socialist!

    2) The hereditary principle, a feature of Socialist dynasties around the world, such as the Kennedys in the USA, Nehru-Gandhis in India, and the Kims in North Korea!

    3) Pomp and circumstance - Trooping the Colour is after all merely a toned down version of all those North Korean and (former) Soviet military parades!

    So, my fellow PBers, I put it to you that Monarchism = Socialism!

    :)

    Black is essentially White! "What are you on about, Ben?" I hear you cry!

    Well, consider:

    1) Black is an extreme form of grey; so is White!

    2) Black and White a both signifiers of plain truth, as in "it's there in black and white"!

    3) Black is often used as a surname; so is White!

    So, my fellow PBers, I put it to you that Black = White!

    :)
    I see you didn't explain away the points about Jobs for life? Hereditary principle? Pomp and circumstance? :lol:
    I didn't need to explain them away because you never explained them in the first place. Kennedys = socialist ?! - ffs!
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    Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Montgomerie is a "moderate"?
    He poses as one.
    To whom? Continuity IDS quit the party under Cameron over Europe. When has he ever been described as a moderate?
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    RobD said:

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Probably the bit about the EU being a malign authoritarian power.
    If you're unable to read what I wrote originally, that's your problem.
    If leavers absurdly, disgustingly and routinely describe the EU as a malign authoritarian power, you ought to be able to specifically cite plenty of highly amusing examples.
    As promised, I cited one from yesterday. In response, you made it clear that you think VAT-free Tampax is the litmus test for identifying a free country. Given your eccentric starting point, I'm not sure that trying to persuade you is going to be a fruitful endeavour.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,639
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    FPT

    Monarchism is essentially a form of Socialism! "What are you on about, Sunil?" I hear you cry!

    Well, consider:

    1) Monarchs have a job for life, which is quintessentially Socialist!

    2) The hereditary principle, a feature of Socialist dynasties around the world, such as the Kennedys in the USA, Nehru-Gandhis in India, and the Kims in North Korea!

    3) Pomp and circumstance - Trooping the Colour is after all merely a toned down version of all those North Korean and (former) Soviet military parades!

    So, my fellow PBers, I put it to you that Monarchism = Socialism!

    :)

    Black is essentially White! "What are you on about, Ben?" I hear you cry!

    Well, consider:

    1) Black is an extreme form of grey; so is White!

    2) Black and White a both signifiers of plain truth, as in "it's there in black and white"!

    3) Black is often used as a surname; so is White!

    So, my fellow PBers, I put it to you that Black = White!

    :)
    Be careful when you next encounter a zebra crossing.....
    What's a zebra crossing?
    You know, the pedestrian crossings with the grey stripes.... :p
    :lol:
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961
    Nigelb said:

    Anazina said:

    Previous thread

    I would tend to agree with @MorrisDancer about the word mansplaining. Not only is it a contrived neologism, I don't know why we need yet another gendered term...

    I think it fair enough, given how many insulting gendered terms women have been on the receiving end of in the past. The annoyance it creates is probably a feature rather than a bug...
    So it’s basically like positive discrimination? Giving them a taste of their own medicine...
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,182
    Yorkcity said:

    Here's one for PB:

    https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/997491472646770689

    I suggest Williamson (Derby).

    I thought there might be a chance of a religious MP , complaining about divorcees been allowed to marry in church.
    :lol:
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,976
    School shooting reported in the US:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44173954
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    Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,976
    Mr. B, that's a damned silly argument. Bigotry in the past being bad doesn't make bigotry now a good thing, just because it's in a different direction. Would that then justify future bigotry against women?
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    Carolus_RexCarolus_Rex Posts: 1,414

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Don't you like freedom?
    Britain already has it. The clear implication that at present it doesn't is both absurd and offensive.
    We don't have the freedom to remove VAT from women's sanitary products.

    That's absurd and offensive.

    Do you think freedom should only be celebrated by slaves and George Michael?
    We can still declare war on France.

    That’s all the freedom we need.
    Not sure it would be wholly compatible with membership of the EU .

    (Or NATO for that matter. Who'd get first dibs on invoking Article 5?).
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    JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548

    RobD said:

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Probably the bit about the EU being a malign authoritarian power.
    If you're unable to read what I wrote originally, that's your problem.
    If leavers absurdly, disgustingly and routinely describe the EU as a malign authoritarian power, you ought to be able to specifically cite plenty of highly amusing examples.
    As promised, I cited one from yesterday. In response, you made it clear that you think VAT-free Tampax is the litmus test for identifying a free country. Given your eccentric starting point, I'm not sure that trying to persuade you is going to be a fruitful endeavour.
    You didn't cite an example of the EU described as a malign power; what you cited describes the sclerotic mess we need to disentangle ourselves from. To get, you know what, freedom.
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    RobD said:

    Nigelb said:

    Anazina said:

    Previous thread

    I would tend to agree with @MorrisDancer about the word mansplaining. Not only is it a contrived neologism, I don't know why we need yet another gendered term...

    I think it fair enough, given how many insulting gendered terms women have been on the receiving end of in the past. The annoyance it creates is probably a feature rather than a bug...
    So it’s basically like positive discrimination? Giving them a taste of their own medicine...

    Are you mansplaining mansplaining?

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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961

    RobD said:

    Nigelb said:

    Anazina said:

    Previous thread

    I would tend to agree with @MorrisDancer about the word mansplaining. Not only is it a contrived neologism, I don't know why we need yet another gendered term...

    I think it fair enough, given how many insulting gendered terms women have been on the receiving end of in the past. The annoyance it creates is probably a feature rather than a bug...
    So it’s basically like positive discrimination? Giving them a taste of their own medicine...

    Are you mansplaining mansplaining?

    Guilty as charged. :p
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,607
    Anyone looking for a p*ss up in a brewery?

    https://twitter.com/TomMcTague/status/997483364067172353
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    Carolus_RexCarolus_Rex Posts: 1,414
    Yorkcity said:

    Here's one for PB:

    https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/997491472646770689

    I suggest Williamson (Derby).

    I thought there might be a chance of a religious MP , complaining about divorcees been allowed to marry in church.
    The best known religious MP at the moment would presumably say it's nothing to do with him, it's not his church.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,360
    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    So which MP is Mikel Arteta?

    So you looking for someone who's worked under him and then gone off to do something else.
    Are you underwhelmed by that choice?

    I think he is being appointed because the rumours of the new manager only having a £50million war chest this summer.
    They're looking for a yes man who won't complain about the average players purchased by the powers that be.
    A shame for Arsenal fans.

    With City, United, and Liverpool with a £142 million plus to burn standing still won't be an option, especially with such a narrow transfer window.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Don't you like freedom?
    Britain already has it. The clear implication that at present it doesn't is both absurd and offensive.
    We don't have the freedom to remove VAT from women's sanitary products.

    That's absurd and offensive.

    Do you think freedom should only be celebrated by slaves and George Michael?
    We can still declare war on France.

    That’s all the freedom we need.
    Not sure it would be wholly compatible with membership of the EU .

    (Or NATO for that matter. Who'd get first dibs on invoking Article 5?).
    We can just invoke the Treaty of Troyes. NATO would have no choice but to back our rightful claim.
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    Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,059

    So which MP is Mikel Arteta?

    Tracey
    Crouch
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,639
    edited May 2018

    Anyone looking for a p*ss up in a brewery?

    https://twitter.com/TomMcTague/status/997483364067172353

    Solution Hypothesised As Making Britain Leave Europe Slowly
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,124

    Slight cock-up in Jezza's office: I've just received an email congratulating me on being elected as a councillor.


    This arrived 6 minutes after the email saying hard luck you didn't win, but thanks for standing.

    Covering all the bases.
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    RobD said:

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Probably the bit about the EU being a malign authoritarian power.
    If you're unable to read what I wrote originally, that's your problem.
    If leavers absurdly, disgustingly and routinely describe the EU as a malign authoritarian power, you ought to be able to specifically cite plenty of highly amusing examples.
    As promised, I cited one from yesterday. In response, you made it clear that you think VAT-free Tampax is the litmus test for identifying a free country. Given your eccentric starting point, I'm not sure that trying to persuade you is going to be a fruitful endeavour.
    You didn't cite an example of the EU described as a malign power; what you cited describes the sclerotic mess we need to disentangle ourselves from. To get, you know what, freedom.
    As I said, you think that what we currently have is not properly described as freedom. I regard that as absurd and offensive, a state of mind that only those whose anti-EU obsessiveness has driven mad could consider a tenable description.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,639

    RobD said:

    Nigelb said:

    Anazina said:

    Previous thread

    I would tend to agree with @MorrisDancer about the word mansplaining. Not only is it a contrived neologism, I don't know why we need yet another gendered term...

    I think it fair enough, given how many insulting gendered terms women have been on the receiving end of in the past. The annoyance it creates is probably a feature rather than a bug...
    So it’s basically like positive discrimination? Giving them a taste of their own medicine...

    Are you mansplaining mansplaining?

    No need to patronise his patronising. :wink:
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    Anyone looking for a p*ss up in a brewery?

    https://twitter.com/TomMcTague/status/997483364067172353

    Just in time for the longstop date for the next general election. I can't see that being at all problematic.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,639

    Yorkcity said:

    Here's one for PB:

    https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/997491472646770689

    I suggest Williamson (Derby).

    I thought there might be a chance of a religious MP , complaining about divorcees been allowed to marry in church.
    The best known religious MP at the moment would presumably say it's nothing to do with him, it's not his church.
    More likely he'd say it is his church - stolen 480 years ago.
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    JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548

    RobD said:

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Probably the bit about the EU being a malign authoritarian power.
    If you're unable to read what I wrote originally, that's your problem.
    If leavers absurdly, disgustingly and routinely describe the EU as a malign authoritarian power, you ought to be able to specifically cite plenty of highly amusing examples.
    As promised, I cited one from yesterday. In response, you made it clear that you think VAT-free Tampax is the litmus test for identifying a free country. Given your eccentric starting point, I'm not sure that trying to persuade you is going to be a fruitful endeavour.
    You didn't cite an example of the EU described as a malign power; what you cited describes the sclerotic mess we need to disentangle ourselves from. To get, you know what, freedom.
    As I said, you think that what we currently have is not properly described as freedom. I regard that as absurd and offensive, a state of mind that only those whose anti-EU obsessiveness has driven mad could consider a tenable description.
    You seem to have quite a mad problem with the word freedom.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,360

    Anyone looking for a p*ss up in a brewery?

    https://twitter.com/TomMcTague/status/997483364067172353

    So the next general election might be about Brexit, again.

    Such joy.
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    anothernickanothernick Posts: 3,578
    edited May 2018

    Anyone looking for a p*ss up in a brewery?

    https://twitter.com/TomMcTague/status/997483364067172353

    Solution Hypothesised As Making Britain Leave Europe Slowly
    :smiley:

    I believe max fac involves a new and untried government IT system. Therefore it will cost gazillions, take at least twice as long as planned to develop and ultimately be abandoned as unworkable.
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    JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548
    On topic

    Bollocks to Bercow
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,639

    On topic

    Bollocks to Bercow

    Very well argued :wink:
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    GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 20,847

    Anyone looking for a p*ss up in a brewery?

    Uh oh, Carlotta is wobbling.

    TIIIIIMBER!!!!
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    RobD said:

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Probably the bit about the EU being a malign authoritarian power.
    If you're unable to read what I wrote originally, that's your problem.
    If leavers absurdly, disgustingly and routinely describe the EU as a malign authoritarian power, you ought to be able to specifically cite plenty of highly amusing examples.
    As promised, I cited one from yesterday. In response, you made it clear that you think VAT-free Tampax is the litmus test for identifying a free country. Given your eccentric starting point, I'm not sure that trying to persuade you is going to be a fruitful endeavour.
    You didn't cite an example of the EU described as a malign power; what you cited describes the sclerotic mess we need to disentangle ourselves from. To get, you know what, freedom.
    As I said, you think that what we currently have is not properly described as freedom. I regard that as absurd and offensive, a state of mind that only those whose anti-EU obsessiveness has driven mad could consider a tenable description.
    You seem to have quite a mad problem with the word freedom.
    The problematic word in Tim Montgomerie's tweet is not "freedom" but "to". What the hell do he (and you) think that Britain currently has? The idea that Britain does not currently enjoy freedom is grotesque.
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    JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548

    RobD said:

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Probably the bit about the EU being a malign authoritarian power.
    If you're unable to read what I wrote originally, that's your problem.
    If leavers absurdly, disgustingly and routinely describe the EU as a malign authoritarian power, you ought to be able to specifically cite plenty of highly amusing examples.
    As promised, I cited one from yesterday. In response, you made it clear that you think VAT-free Tampax is the litmus test for identifying a free country. Given your eccentric starting point, I'm not sure that trying to persuade you is going to be a fruitful endeavour.
    You didn't cite an example of the EU described as a malign power; what you cited describes the sclerotic mess we need to disentangle ourselves from. To get, you know what, freedom.
    As I said, you think that what we currently have is not properly described as freedom. I regard that as absurd and offensive, a state of mind that only those whose anti-EU obsessiveness has driven mad could consider a tenable description.
    You seem to have quite a mad problem with the word freedom.
    The problematic word in Tim Montgomerie's tweet is not "freedom" but "to". What the hell do he (and you) think that Britain currently has? The idea that Britain does not currently enjoy freedom is grotesque.
    You're completely right. The utter bastard should have said more.
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    YorkcityYorkcity Posts: 4,382

    Yorkcity said:

    Here's one for PB:

    https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/997491472646770689

    I suggest Williamson (Derby).

    I thought there might be a chance of a religious MP , complaining about divorcees been allowed to marry in church.
    The best known religious MP at the moment would presumably say it's nothing to do with him, it's not his church.
    Would probanly be disappointed as the participant ,was schooled in the Catholic religion.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961

    RobD said:

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Probably the bit about the EU being a malign authoritarian power.
    If you're unable to read what I wrote originally, that's your problem.
    If leavers absurdly, disgustingly and routinely describe the EU as a malign authoritarian power, you ought to be able to specifically cite plenty of highly amusing examples.
    As promised, I cited one from yesterday. In response, you made it clear that you think VAT-free Tampax is the litmus test for identifying a free country. Given your eccentric starting point, I'm not sure that trying to persuade you is going to be a fruitful endeavour.
    You didn't cite an example of the EU described as a malign power; what you cited describes the sclerotic mess we need to disentangle ourselves from. To get, you know what, freedom.
    As I said, you think that what we currently have is not properly described as freedom. I regard that as absurd and offensive, a state of mind that only those whose anti-EU obsessiveness has driven mad could consider a tenable description.
    You seem to have quite a mad problem with the word freedom.
    The problematic word in Tim Montgomerie's tweet is not "freedom" but "to". What the hell do he (and you) think that Britain currently has? The idea that Britain does not currently enjoy freedom is grotesque.
    It doesn’t enjoy freedom in some areas as it has to abide by EU law, which may or may not be passed without the UK’s consent. Now those regulations might not be a bad thing, and may be needed to ensure smooth trading relations, but that doesn’t mean the UK is free to do as it chooses in those areas. Of course, we were always sovereign, but that doesn’t mean it could be exercised in all areas.
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,639
    edited May 2018

    RobD said:

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Probably the bit about the EU being a malign authoritarian power.
    If you're unable to read what I wrote originally, that's your problem.
    If leavers absurdly, disgustingly and routinely describe the EU as a malign authoritarian power, you ought to be able to specifically cite plenty of highly amusing examples.
    As promised, I cited one from yesterday. In response, you made it clear that you think VAT-free Tampax is the litmus test for identifying a free country. Given your eccentric starting point, I'm not sure that trying to persuade you is going to be a fruitful endeavour.
    You didn't cite an example of the EU described as a malign power; what you cited describes the sclerotic mess we need to disentangle ourselves from. To get, you know what, freedom.
    As I said, you think that what we currently have is not properly described as freedom. I regard that as absurd and offensive, a state of mind that only those whose anti-EU obsessiveness has driven mad could consider a tenable description.
    You seem to have quite a mad problem with the word freedom.
    The problematic word in Tim Montgomerie's tweet is not "freedom" but "to". What the hell do he (and you) think that Britain currently has? The idea that Britain does not currently enjoy freedom is grotesque.
    You're completely right. The utter bastard should have said more.
    It would generally be better if Montgomerie said less tbh.
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    JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548

    RobD said:

    FPT:


    Only yesterday a well-known commentator who poses as a Leave moderate described Britain as being on a "transition to freedom". The routine way in which Leave advocates describe the EU as some form of malign authoritarian power is both absurd and disgusting.

    Citation required...
    Knock yourself out:

    https://twitter.com/montie/status/997172071821127680
    Probably the bit about the EU being a malign authoritarian power.
    If you're unable to read what I wrote originally, that's your problem.
    If leavers absurdly, disgustingly and routinely describe the EU as a malign authoritarian power, you ought to be able to specifically cite plenty of highly amusing examples.
    As promised, I cited one from yesterday. In response, you made it clear that you think VAT-free Tampax is the litmus test for identifying a free country. Given your eccentric starting point, I'm not sure that trying to persuade you is going to be a fruitful endeavour.
    You didn't cite an example of the EU described as a malign power; what you cited describes the sclerotic mess we need to disentangle ourselves from. To get, you know what, freedom.
    As I said, you think that what we currently have is not properly described as freedom. I regard that as absurd and offensive, a state of mind that only those whose anti-EU obsessiveness has driven mad could consider a tenable description.
    You seem to have quite a mad problem with the word freedom.
    The problematic word in Tim Montgomerie's tweet is not "freedom" but "to". What the hell do he (and you) think that Britain currently has? The idea that Britain does not currently enjoy freedom is grotesque.
    You're completely right. The utter bastard should have said more.
    It would generally be better if Montgomerie said less tbh.
    :smile: ie. To "more" freedom
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    The problematic word in Tim Montgomerie's tweet is not "freedom" but "to". What the hell do he (and you) think that Britain currently has? The idea that Britain does not currently enjoy freedom is grotesque.


    Britain does not have the Freedom to:

    * Curtail EU migrants
    * Make its own trade deals
    * Remove VAT from sanitary products
    * Allow theatres to retain their existing low-efficiency lighting

    The list goes on.

    And we were told that didn't matter as this was all voluntary by being part of the EU club. Until that is we actually try to leave, then it turns out everything will made as awkward/impossible as possible so we cannot leave.

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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    I seem to have stumbled across the perfect litmus test for identifying the certifiable Leavers. Those that seriously try to defend the idea that Britain isn't currently free can be sent to the tailor to be measured up for the straitjacket.
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    JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548

    I seem to have stumbled across the perfect litmus test for identifying the certifiable Leavers. Those that seriously try to defend the idea that Britain isn't currently free can be sent to the tailor to be measured up for the straitjacket.

    And the remainiacs think we're 100% free. I like your system.
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,597

    Here's one for PB:

    https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/997491472646770689

    I suggest Williamson (Derby).

    I reckon it will be a Tory saying something clearly racist without even realising it.
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    NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,326
    Pulpstar said:

    Here's one for PB:

    https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/997491472646770689

    I suggest Williamson (Derby).

    Dent-Coad and Williamson joint Favs ?
    What is this wedding of which you speak?
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    AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340

    Here's one for PB:

    https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/997491472646770689

    I suggest Williamson (Derby).

    I reckon it will be a Tory saying something clearly racist without even realising it.
    For different reasons I'll pick Nicholas Soames in this virtual sweepstake.
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    JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548
    FPT Re Ranil Jayawardena being 25/1 for next PM with PP. He's 100/1 with Shadsy to be next Tory leader (16/1 with PP)
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    BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,639

    Here's one for PB:

    https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/997491472646770689

    I suggest Williamson (Derby).

    I reckon it will be a Tory saying something clearly racist without even realising it.
    For different reasons I'll pick Nicholas Soames in this virtual sweepstake.
    I'll go for BoJo - a lazy pick if ever there was one!
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    YorkcityYorkcity Posts: 4,382

    Here's one for PB:

    https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/997491472646770689

    I suggest Williamson (Derby).

    I reckon it will be a Tory saying something clearly racist without even realising it.
    One of the Royals you mean ?


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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,182

    Pulpstar said:

    Here's one for PB:

    https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/997491472646770689

    I suggest Williamson (Derby).

    Dent-Coad and Williamson joint Favs ?
    What is this wedding of which you speak?
    If you weren't an ex-MP, that might be entry for the sweepstake :lol:
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