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  • JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548
    edited May 2018

    rcs1000 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


    Remain
    HYUFD
    Pulpstar
    DecrepitJohnL
    Dura_Ace
    The_Apocalypse
    PClipp
    Ian_B2
    Beverley_C
    OllyT
    Alistair
    WilliamGlenn
    Felix
    NickPalmer
    GardenWalker
    Topping
    rkrkrk
    Scott_P
    Foxy
    El_Capitano
    Surby
    JonathanD
    Scrapheap_as_was
    Benpointer
    Slackbladder
    TheScreamingEagles
    AlastairMeeks
    MikeSmithson
    The Union Divvie
    Rottenborough
    Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
    TorbyFennel
    BigG

    Leave
    Morris Dancer
    Charles
    TGOHF
    JonnyJimmy
    MarqueeMark
    DeClare
    MaxPB
    another_Richard
    Casino_Royale
    DavidL
    SandyRentool
    David_Evershed
    bigjohnowls
    tlg86
    Philip_Thompson
    Sean_F
    Kle4
    TykeJohno

    Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

    Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !
    So, Richard Tyndall and I aren't even worthy of mention. (Sobs quietly.)
    That survey is a swizz.
    @Alanbrooke is also missing from Leave, as re those two Welsh posters. Edit: and @Ishmael_Z
    It's a lot better than the survey you put up.

    Alanrooke didn't post in the last 2 threads (read the top of the survey), IshmaelZ hasn't posted today.
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.
  • JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548

    Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.

    The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 38,517
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  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,392
    Can some clever person produce a graph with left - right on the X-axis, leave - remain on the Y-axis, and PBers' names in little bubbles in the appropriate places?

    My hunch is a general U-shape.
  • surbysurby Posts: 1,227
    Charles said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Pulpstar also forgot:

    Fuck this referendum, nuke Brussels:
    archer101au

    I thought he was a remainer...?
    With Remainers like him............
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487

    Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.

    The neobrexiteers who do whatever The Party tells them to.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Pulpstar said:
    Are you still going by the last two threads ?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,841

    Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.

    Cyclefree and a couple of others are in the sui-generis (Unsure) category
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 20,812

    rcs1000 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


    Remain
    HYUFD
    Pulpstar
    DecrepitJohnL
    Dura_Ace
    The_Apocalypse
    PClipp
    Ian_B2
    Beverley_C
    OllyT
    Alistair
    WilliamGlenn
    Felix
    NickPalmer
    GardenWalker
    Topping
    rkrkrk
    Scott_P
    Foxy
    El_Capitano
    Surby
    JonathanD
    Scrapheap_as_was
    Benpointer
    Slackbladder
    TheScreamingEagles
    AlastairMeeks
    MikeSmithson
    The Union Divvie
    Rottenborough
    Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
    TorbyFennel
    BigG

    Leave
    Morris Dancer
    Charles
    TGOHF
    JonnyJimmy
    MarqueeMark
    DeClare
    MaxPB
    another_Richard
    Casino_Royale
    DavidL
    SandyRentool
    David_Evershed
    bigjohnowls
    tlg86
    Philip_Thompson
    Sean_F
    Kle4
    TykeJohno

    Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

    Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !
    So, Richard Tyndall and I aren't even worthy of mention. (Sobs quietly.)
    That survey is a swizz.
    @Alanbrooke is also missing from Leave, as re those two Welsh posters. Edit: and @Ishmael_Z
    It's a lot better than the survey you put up.
    This is true. Very grateful to Pulpstar for assembling the list, though questioning the conclusion!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,841

    Pulpstar said:
    Are you still going by the last two threads ?
    Expanded now to include anyone I can remember posts here regularly
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,603
    Can each side get a function where we get to ignore posts from the other side?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    What a ride from Chris Froome.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:
    Are you still going by the last two threads ?
    Expanded now to include anyone I can remember posts here regularly
    I'm still waiting to be inducted into the PB Tory hall of fame. This'll have to do. :p

    (although I personally think the keeping of lists like this is somewhat ominous!)
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 20,812
    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:
    Are you still going by the last two threads ?
    Expanded now to include anyone I can remember posts here regularly
    Can we have a (PbT) label appended to the you-know-whos? :smiley:
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941

    I've just been trying to make my website GDRP compatible. Can someone with technical knowledge tell me if the following from my cookie policy is correct?

    What are cookies?

    Cookies are small pieces of dough that get placed on the computer's processor during times of high load, such as looking at dodgy walking websites on the 'net. The first time you visit a site, a new piece of dough is put onto the processor, and a load of personal information is baked within it. The next time you visit, that information is used to recognise you and operate your webcam.

    The cookies are collected at night by black operatives, who break into your home, open up your computer, and take them back to MI5/CIA/SVR RF. If you ever find crumbs by your desk in the morning, it might be because the operatives got a little hungry and ate the cookies. They are also responsible for placing new dough in your computer, making coffee rings on your desks and draining ink out of your printers (HP, Lexmark and Canon all have sponsorship deals with the operatives).

    The performance of your computer may suffer it stores too many cookies. For this reason, please make the operatives' job easier and leave windows open and doors unlocked. They also quite like a beer, so (for UK readers) a nice bottle of ale should be left within easy reach of your computer each night.

    Hah, very good. I can see some US websites have gone nuclear and just banned EU visitors, lol.
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830

    Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.

    The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.
    The referendum is over though now, so we can add categories that reflect how people’s minds might have changed.

    @Pulpstar I think Cyclefree voted to Leave.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,841

    What a ride from Chris Froome.

    I have a bet on him winning 5 Tour De France which I can't see due to Ladbrokes hideous policies. I'm going to dig it out now.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    edited May 2018

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:
    Are you still going by the last two threads ?
    Expanded now to include anyone I can remember posts here regularly
    Can we have a (PbT) label appended to the you-know-whos? :smiley:
    I swear there are more comments about them than from them these days!
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    rcs1000 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Just to add my voice to those imploring @Beverley_C to stay.

    This place is already over-infested by (male) PB Tories. As I said, Labour is now utterly mainstream if you are under 50. If you can’t deal with that, or seek to understand why people might be attracted by Corbyn, you are simply masturbating.

    I wonder what the percentage of posters on here are leave and remain,it seems in recent times the site has been taken over by the pro EU lobby.

    Sorry to see Bev go but you must have thick skin on here some days and not give up,we all have had had those days .
    From this thread and the previous I make it vote in the referendum as follows:


    Remain
    HYUFD
    Pulpstar
    DecrepitJohnL
    Dura_Ace
    The_Apocalypse
    PClipp
    Ian_B2
    Beverley_C
    OllyT
    Alistair
    WilliamGlenn
    Felix
    NickPalmer
    GardenWalker
    Topping
    rkrkrk
    Scott_P
    Foxy
    El_Capitano
    Surby
    JonathanD
    Scrapheap_as_was
    Benpointer
    Slackbladder
    TheScreamingEagles
    AlastairMeeks
    MikeSmithson
    The Union Divvie
    Rottenborough
    Anazina/Bobajob/The last boy scout/Jobabob
    TorbyFennel
    BigG

    Leave
    Morris Dancer
    Charles
    TGOHF
    JonnyJimmy
    MarqueeMark
    DeClare
    MaxPB
    another_Richard
    Casino_Royale
    DavidL
    SandyRentool
    David_Evershed
    bigjohnowls
    tlg86
    Philip_Thompson
    Sean_F
    Kle4
    TykeJohno

    Everyone else I'm not sure about, the remain % is definitely higher than for the general population.

    Hope I have everyone correct as to their referendum vote !
    So, Richard Tyndall and I aren't even worthy of mention. (Sobs quietly.)
    That survey is a swizz.
    @Alanbrooke is also missing from Leave, as re those two Welsh posters. Edit: and @Ishmael_Z
    It's a lot better than the survey you put up.
    This is true. Very grateful to Pulpstar for assembling the list, though questioning the conclusion!
    Can we conclude by the list so far,remainers need somewhere to go to moan ;-)
  • JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548

    Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.

    The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.
    The referendum is over though now, so we can add categories that reflect how people’s minds might have changed.

    @Pulpstar I think Cyclefree voted to Leave.
    The referendum's over, so you want a people's vote survey instead?
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 20,812
  • Torby_FennelTorby_Fennel Posts: 438
    Sean_F said:



    Sean T was also Leave.

    I think that right of centre Remainers are far more heavily represented here than in the general population, left of centre Remainers are much less heavily represented,

    Yes, I think that's a very fair point. I consider myself to be on the right-wing of the Liberal Democrats so would consider myself a right of centre Remainer - even if only marginally right of centre.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,841

    Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.

    The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.
    The referendum is over though now, so we can add categories that reflect how people’s minds might have changed.

    @Pulpstar I think Cyclefree voted to Leave.
    That might be true but she's never shared her vote and I entirely respect that.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,262
    edited May 2018
    Pulpstar said:
    Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.

    MarkSenior Remain?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,841

    Pulpstar said:
    Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.

    MarkSenior Remain?
    Mark Senior was remain and one of the most astute posters here, yes. Sadly departed, as such I'm not going to add his name to the list but will add a +1 to the remain count.
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Pulpstar said:

    Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.

    The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.
    The referendum is over though now, so we can add categories that reflect how people’s minds might have changed.

    @Pulpstar I think Cyclefree voted to Leave.
    That might be true but she's never shared her vote and I entirely respect that.
    I’m saying that because IIRC she’s said on here that she voted to Leave.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,841

    Pulpstar said:

    Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.

    The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.
    The referendum is over though now, so we can add categories that reflect how people’s minds might have changed.

    @Pulpstar I think Cyclefree voted to Leave.
    That might be true but she's never shared her vote and I entirely respect that.
    I’m saying that because IIRC she’s said on here that she voted to Leave.
    I'm on here far too much but I've never seen that.
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    edited May 2018

    Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.

    The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.
    The referendum is over though now, so we can add categories that reflect how people’s minds might have changed.

    @Pulpstar I think Cyclefree voted to Leave.
    The referendum's over, so you want a people's vote survey instead?
    It’d be interesting to find out where we all stand at the moment.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,262

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:
    Are you still going by the last two threads ?
    Expanded now to include anyone I can remember posts here regularly
    Can we have a (PbT) label appended to the you-know-whos? :smiley:
    PB Trots? :wink:
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,262
    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:
    Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.

    MarkSenior Remain?
    Mark Senior was remain and one of the most astute posters here, yes. Sadly departed, as such I'm not going to add his name to the list but will add a +1 to the remain count.
    Ah - apols, I didn't know that.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,559

    Cyclefree said:

    Anazina said:

    Garden Walker

    You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

    BBB – Bring Back Beverley


    She was not kicked out. She chose to go. Because of some rather offensive comments about what the Irish did during WW2 which seemed OTT and unnecessary. I hope she comes back. But it's her call.
    I thought the Jews remark was particularly obnoxious.

    As for WW2, it just shows how dementedly stuck in the past some of the PB Tories are.

    Frankly, the world would be much shitter without the Irish.
    aw shucks GW

    I didn't know you cared
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 20,812
    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:
    Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.

    MarkSenior Remain?
    Mark Senior was remain and one of the most astute posters here, yes. Sadly departed, as such I'm not going to add his name to the list but will add a +1 to the remain count.
    Can you add a column for Russian stooges for LuckyGuy?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,933
    Mr. Pulpstar, ha, I've sometimes had fun playing the "Find the bet I made nine months ago" game.

    On GDPR, sounds like the VATmess and the antiquities legislation that Mr. Mortimer is less than thrilled about. What's the name of the bureaucratic Jamaican in Futurama? It does sometimes feel like the EU cloned him, accidentally lobotomising all the clones.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,262

    Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.

    The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.
    The referendum is over though now, so we can add categories that reflect how people’s minds might have changed.

    @Pulpstar I think Cyclefree voted to Leave.
    The referendum's over, so you want a people's vote survey instead?
    It’d be interesting to find out where we all stance at the moment.
    Agreed - I believe a few have switched Remain to Leave on the "it's will of the people" argument. (Not I though!)
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 20,812

    Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.

    The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.
    The referendum is over though now, so we can add categories that reflect how people’s minds might have changed.

    @Pulpstar I think Cyclefree voted to Leave.
    The referendum's over, so you want a people's vote survey instead?
    It’d be interesting to find out where we all stance at the moment.
    Agreed - I believe a few have switched Remain to Leave on the "it's will of the people" argument. (Not I though!)
    Sadly, we don’t seem to have a single Leave to Remain switch.

    Hopefully Big G will delight us when he returns from the Med, although in his case it will be switching *back*.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,758

    Sean_F said:



    Sean T was also Leave.

    I think that right of centre Remainers are far more heavily represented here than in the general population, left of centre Remainers are much less heavily represented,

    Yes, I think that's a very fair point. I consider myself to be on the right-wing of the Liberal Democrats so would consider myself a right of centre Remainer - even if only marginally right of centre.

    Sean_F said:



    Sean T was also Leave.

    I think that right of centre Remainers are far more heavily represented here than in the general population, left of centre Remainers are much less heavily represented,

    Yes, I think that's a very fair point. I consider myself to be on the right-wing of the Liberal Democrats so would consider myself a right of centre Remainer - even if only marginally right of centre.
    In my experience, it's much more common to read social media in which left wing voters get berated by other left wingers for voting against the social democracy provided by the EU, rather than blogs such as this where right wing Leavers get criticised for voting against the interests of the City and multinationals.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:
    Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.

    MarkSenior Remain?
    Mark Senior was remain and one of the most astute posters here, yes. Sadly departed, as such I'm not going to add his name to the list but will add a +1 to the remain count.
    When I posted down thread I did say the word "recent" stick to your guns pulstar and only posters you have seen on here in the last few months.

    Otherwise we will have a majority leave just like the referendum if you count everyone who post here.

    Two of the above posters are banned.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,122

    Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.

    I would vote Remain in a second Referendum but would prefer to accept the original result. It just seems like cheating otherwise. In my defence the result has cost me financially - as the Spanish don't say 'C'est la vie' :)
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,262

    Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.

    The categories were how people voted in the referendum. There were only two options.
    The referendum is over though now, so we can add categories that reflect how people’s minds might have changed.

    @Pulpstar I think Cyclefree voted to Leave.
    The referendum's over, so you want a people's vote survey instead?
    It’d be interesting to find out where we all stance at the moment.
    Agreed - I believe a few have switched Remain to Leave on the "it's will of the people" argument. (Not I though!)
    Sadly, we don’t seem to have a single Leave to Remain switch.

    Hopefully Big G will delight us when he returns from the Med, although in his case it will be switching *back*.
    Indeed. A few in the "given the way the government are cocking Brexit up, we might as well have stayed in" camp though... which I read as "I realise I got it wrong but I'm going to blame HMG" :smile:
  • RogerRoger Posts: 18,891
    edited May 2018
    A day at the dogs and PB Tories are back to their bad old ways . I wrote a congratulatory post to Beverley this morning on being the first person able to explain why we were all getting emails asking us to tick boxes urgently but I got distracted and didn't send.

    Come back Bev. We're short of clever people who zig when everyone else zags.

  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,559
    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:



    Sean T was also Leave.

    I think that right of centre Remainers are far more heavily represented here than in the general population, left of centre Remainers are much less heavily represented,

    Yes, I think that's a very fair point. I consider myself to be on the right-wing of the Liberal Democrats so would consider myself a right of centre Remainer - even if only marginally right of centre.

    Sean_F said:



    Sean T was also Leave.

    I think that right of centre Remainers are far more heavily represented here than in the general population, left of centre Remainers are much less heavily represented,

    Yes, I think that's a very fair point. I consider myself to be on the right-wing of the Liberal Democrats so would consider myself a right of centre Remainer - even if only marginally right of centre.
    In my experience, it's much more common to read social media in which left wing voters get berated by other left wingers for voting against the social democracy provided by the EU, rather than blogs such as this where right wing Leavers get criticised for voting against the interests of the City and multinationals.
    If there's one thing on PB which seems to have accelerated in recent years it's how party allegiance really doesn't mean much any more.

    I found it curious that BevC who I would have described as more of a centrist suddenly jumped into a smash the state, break the mould advocate. Oddly no different from myself in many ways but she jumped left whereas I jumped right. Hence my main motivation for voting Leave.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,122
    Anazina said:

    Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.

    The neobrexiteers who do whatever The Party tells them to.
    Nice way to lower the tone.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,262

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:
    Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.

    MarkSenior Remain?
    Mark Senior was remain and one of the most astute posters here, yes. Sadly departed, as such I'm not going to add his name to the list but will add a +1 to the remain count.
    When I posted down thread I did say the word "recent" stick to your guns pulstar and only posters you have seen on here in the last few months.

    Otherwise we will have a majority leave just like the referendum if you count everyone who post here.

    Two of the above posters are banned.
    Are they? Which two?
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 1,749
    OT, A little dig from Scotland, courtesy of the Sustainable Growth Commission's report:

    3.122 We strongly recommend that the tone and approach of Scotland to the rest of the UK in
    those discussions should be informed by the recent and on-going difficulties created by the
    UK Government’s approach to Brexit negotiations.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:
    Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.

    MarkSenior Remain?
    Mark Senior was remain and one of the most astute posters here, yes. Sadly departed, as such I'm not going to add his name to the list but will add a +1 to the remain count.
    When I posted down thread I did say the word "recent" stick to your guns pulstar and only posters you have seen on here in the last few months.

    Otherwise we will have a majority leave just like the referendum if you count everyone who post here.

    Two of the above posters are banned.
    Are they? Which two?
    isam and nigelforengland.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:
    Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.

    MarkSenior Remain?
    Mark Senior was remain and one of the most astute posters here, yes. Sadly departed, as such I'm not going to add his name to the list but will add a +1 to the remain count.
    When I posted down thread I did say the word "recent" stick to your guns pulstar and only posters you have seen on here in the last few months.

    Otherwise we will have a majority leave just like the referendum if you count everyone who post here.

    Two of the above posters are banned.
    Are they? Which two?
    Off the top of my head, nigel4england and isam.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,559
    sarissa said:

    OT, A little dig from Scotland, courtesy of the Sustainable Growth Commission's report:

    3.122 We strongly recommend that the tone and approach of Scotland to the rest of the UK in
    those discussions should be informed by the recent and on-going difficulties created by the
    UK Government’s approach to Brexit negotiations.

    well that should disappoint mot of their supporters
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    sarissa said:

    OT, A little dig from Scotland, courtesy of the Sustainable Growth Commission's report:

    3.122 We strongly recommend that the tone and approach of Scotland to the rest of the UK in
    those discussions should be informed by the recent and on-going difficulties created by the
    UK Government’s approach to Brexit negotiations.

    No chance of that while the SNP are in charge. :p
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    felix said:

    Anazina said:

    Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.

    The neobrexiteers who do whatever The Party tells them to.
    Nice way to lower the tone.
    Not really. I think you are a bit oversensitive to be honest.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,262
    edited May 2018
    RobD said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:
    Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.

    MarkSenior Remain?
    Mark Senior was remain and one of the most astute posters here, yes. Sadly departed, as such I'm not going to add his name to the list but will add a +1 to the remain count.
    When I posted down thread I did say the word "recent" stick to your guns pulstar and only posters you have seen on here in the last few months.

    Otherwise we will have a majority leave just like the referendum if you count everyone who post here.

    Two of the above posters are banned.
    Are they? Which two?
    Off the top of my head, nigel4england and isam.
    Thanks

    @Pulpstar I agree it makes sense to exclude those no longer posting or banned. Thanks once again for the list.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,122
    Anazina said:

    felix said:

    Anazina said:

    Perhaps the list could have a third category - ‘Re-leavers’? As noted previously, Carlotta, HYUFD and also felix would likely go under that category.

    The neobrexiteers who do whatever The Party tells them to.
    Nice way to lower the tone.
    Not really. I think you are a bit oversensitive to be honest.
    ...And patronising - you're on a roll !
  • RoyalBlueRoyalBlue Posts: 3,223

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Congratulations!

    @Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Cyclefree said:

    Anazina said:

    Garden Walker

    You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

    BBB – Bring Back Beverley


    She was not kicked out. She chose to go. Because of some rather offensive comments about what the Irish did during WW2 which seemed OTT and unnecessary. I hope she comes back. But it's her call.
    I thought the Jews remark was particularly obnoxious.

    As for WW2, it just shows how dementedly stuck in the past some of the PB Tories are.

    Frankly, the world would be much shitter without the Irish.
    aw shucks GW

    I didn't know you cared
    This country would be in the shits if it wasn't for our Irish military leadership of ww2.
  • FensterFenster Posts: 2,115

    Pulpstar said:
    Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.

    MarkSenior Remain?
    I'm a Leaver.

    I was unsure during the EUref but I'm much more sure now.

    The EU is intransigent, anti-democratic, elitist, out of touch and incapable of sensible compromise. All things I dislike.

    I do think Theresa May* is shit though. Always have done; always will.

    *Shit**, but not dangerous. I think Corbyn is dangerous.

    **It is, though, rarely remarked upon that the Tories polling vote share under May has been consistently 10% above Cameron's. Such is the strange world we live in.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    RoyalBlue said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Congratulations!

    @Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.
    Only twice? :D
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,262
    edited May 2018
    RoyalBlue said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Congratulations!

    @Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.
    PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemain
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,559

    Cyclefree said:

    Anazina said:

    Garden Walker

    You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

    BBB – Bring Back Beverley


    She was not kicked out. She chose to go. Because of some rather offensive comments about what the Irish did during WW2 which seemed OTT and unnecessary. I hope she comes back. But it's her call.
    I thought the Jews remark was particularly obnoxious.

    As for WW2, it just shows how dementedly stuck in the past some of the PB Tories are.

    Frankly, the world would be much shitter without the Irish.
    aw shucks GW

    I didn't know you cared
    This country would be in the shits if it wasn't for our Irish military leadership of ww2.
    well if the abortion vote surprises and is a No I suspect we'll be less cuddly in metropolitan circles than at present :-)
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,262
    Fenster said:

    Pulpstar said:
    Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.

    MarkSenior Remain?
    I'm a Leaver.

    I was unsure during the EUref but I'm much more sure now.

    The EU is intransigent, anti-democratic, elitist, out of touch and incapable of sensible compromise. All things I dislike.

    I do think Theresa May* is shit though. Always have done; always will.

    *Shit**, but not dangerous. I think Corbyn is dangerous.

    **It is, though, rarely remarked upon that the Tories polling vote share under May has been consistently 10% above Cameron's. Such is the strange world we live in.
    A = UKIP
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,559

    RoyalBlue said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Congratulations!

    @Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.
    PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemain
    52% versus 48% ?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,262

    Cyclefree said:

    Anazina said:

    Garden Walker

    You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

    BBB – Bring Back Beverley


    She was not kicked out. She chose to go. Because of some rather offensive comments about what the Irish did during WW2 which seemed OTT and unnecessary. I hope she comes back. But it's her call.
    I thought the Jews remark was particularly obnoxious.

    As for WW2, it just shows how dementedly stuck in the past some of the PB Tories are.

    Frankly, the world would be much shitter without the Irish.
    aw shucks GW

    I didn't know you cared
    This country would be in the shits if it wasn't for our Irish military leadership of ww2.
    well if the abortion vote surprises and is a No I suspect we'll be less cuddly in metropolitan circles than at present :-)
    Are we expecting an exit poll? If so, when?
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,122
    Lovely to see the PM with so many MPs and spads at Lords this afternoon. Not as if the Government has much to do at the moment. - Tom Newton Dunn, sounding rather bitter and being childish.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941

    RoyalBlue said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Congratulations!

    @Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.
    PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemain
    52% versus 48% ?
    Dissapointing. I thought this site was swarming with xenophobic PB Tory leavers. :(
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,262

    RoyalBlue said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Congratulations!

    @Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.
    PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemain
    52% versus 48% ?
    Must be very close to that. Just shows what a representative bunch we are, eh?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 49,955
    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:
    Geoffw, GIN1138, Sandpit, TonyE, TwistedFireStopper, Nigel4England, Isam, Freetochoose, SeanT... all Leave, I believe.

    MarkSenior Remain?
    Mark Senior was remain and one of the most astute posters here, yes. Sadly departed, as such I'm not going to add his name to the list but will add a +1 to the remain count.
    Not wanting to speak ill of the dead, Mark Senior was very good indeed on local LibDemmery, lost it somewhat when talking of their prospects nationally - and famously lost a gold sovereign betting against there being a recession in 2007/08!
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 38,517
    I reluctantly voted remain, and if there was to be another referendum, with the same question, I'd more firmly vote remain.

    However, trying to make my little website GDPR compatible (and even trying to work out if I should) is rather putting me off the EU ...
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,841
    RobD said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Congratulations!

    @Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.
    PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemain
    52% versus 48% ?
    Dissapointing. I thought this site was swarming with xenophobic PB Tory leavers. :(
    I am at 38 remain vs 41 leave at present.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,262
    RobD said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Congratulations!

    @Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.
    PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemain
    52% versus 48% ?
    Dissapointing. I thought this site was swarming with xenophobic PB Tory leavers. :(
    52% is a swarm imo!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,841
    Contrary to what people think I've definitely added more 'leavers of yore' than remainers who haven't posted recently.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,559

    Cyclefree said:

    Anazina said:

    Garden Walker

    You can count me as another advocate for Beverley's immediate reinstatement. Garden makes a good point about the demographic here – it is not a safe space for male conservatives, although sometimes it does indeed read that way.

    BBB – Bring Back Beverley


    She was not kicked out. She chose to go. Because of some rather offensive comments about what the Irish did during WW2 which seemed OTT and unnecessary. I hope she comes back. But it's her call.
    I thought the Jews remark was particularly obnoxious.

    As for WW2, it just shows how dementedly stuck in the past some of the PB Tories are.

    Frankly, the world would be much shitter without the Irish.
    aw shucks GW

    I didn't know you cared
    This country would be in the shits if it wasn't for our Irish military leadership of ww2.
    well if the abortion vote surprises and is a No I suspect we'll be less cuddly in metropolitan circles than at present :-)
    Are we expecting an exit poll? If so, when?
    I suspect there will be one later tonight no idea when, polls don't close until10pm
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,262
    Pulpstar said:

    RobD said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Congratulations!

    @Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.
    PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemain
    52% versus 48% ?
    Dissapointing. I thought this site was swarming with xenophobic PB Tory leavers. :(
    I am at 38 remain vs 41 leave at present.
    51.9% Leave! We're doomed!
  • JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548
    RobD said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Congratulations!

    @Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.
    PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemain
    52% versus 48% ?
    Dissapointing. I thought this site was swarming with xenophobic PB Tory leavers. :(
    Over-infested was the lovely term @Gardenwalker used earlier.

    Because plain infested really wouldn't have said it strongly enough.

  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 7,979
    Pulpstar said:
    Here are another eleven leavers (I think. I hope it is not libellous to name someone as a leaver)

    Cornish Blue
    Indigo
    John_N
    LewisDuckworth
    LucyJones
    MalcolmG
    MP-SE
    NorfolkTillDie
    runnymeade
    TCPoliticalBetting
    ThreeQuidder
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941

    RobD said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Congratulations!

    @Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.
    PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemain
    52% versus 48% ?
    Dissapointing. I thought this site was swarming with xenophobic PB Tory leavers. :(
    52% is a swarm imo!
    And 48% is a tiny repressed minority squirming under the PB Tory jackboot? :p
  • RoyalBlueRoyalBlue Posts: 3,223
    RobD said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Congratulations!

    @Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.
    PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemain
    52% versus 48% ?
    Dissapointing. I thought this site was swarming with xenophobic PB Tory leavers. :(
    We only swarm to mark special anniversaries, like the sinking of the Belgrano.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 60,933
    F1: Twitter rumbling about avoiding the hypersofts being a big advantage due to them graining.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    Barnesian said:

    Pulpstar said:
    Here are another eleven leavers (I think. I hope it is not libellous to name someone as a leaver)

    Cornish Blue
    Indigo
    John_N
    LewisDuckworth
    LucyJones
    MalcolmG
    MP-SE
    NorfolkTillDie
    runnymeade
    TCPoliticalBetting
    ThreeQuidder
    Do you only keep track of Leavers?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 31,262
    NEW THREAD
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 7,979
    RobD said:

    Barnesian said:

    Pulpstar said:
    Here are another eleven leavers (I think. I hope it is not libellous to name someone as a leaver)

    Cornish Blue
    Indigo
    John_N
    LewisDuckworth
    LucyJones
    MalcolmG
    MP-SE
    NorfolkTillDie
    runnymeade
    TCPoliticalBetting
    ThreeQuidder
    Do you only keep track of Leavers?
    I remember them well.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    Barnesian said:

    RobD said:

    Barnesian said:

    Pulpstar said:
    Here are another eleven leavers (I think. I hope it is not libellous to name someone as a leaver)

    Cornish Blue
    Indigo
    John_N
    LewisDuckworth
    LucyJones
    MalcolmG
    MP-SE
    NorfolkTillDie
    runnymeade
    TCPoliticalBetting
    ThreeQuidder
    Do you only keep track of Leavers?
    I remember them well.
    How sinister.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 23,559
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    RoyalBlue said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Congratulations!

    @Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.
    PBLeave must now just about outnumber PBRemain
    52% versus 48% ?
    Dissapointing. I thought this site was swarming with xenophobic PB Tory leavers. :(
    52% is a swarm imo!
    And 48% is a tiny repressed minority squirming under the PB Tory jackboot? :p
    It's like when women make up 51% of the population but are a minority
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,540
    Pulpstar said:

    Sean_F said:



    I think Carlotta Vance was Remain, and Wulfrun Phil and Tissue Price were leave.

    Carlotta, can you confirm :) ?
    I supported Remain, just as I support the outcome of the vote.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 18,891
    RobD said:

    Barnesian said:

    Pulpstar said:
    Here are another eleven leavers (I think. I hope it is not libellous to name someone as a leaver)

    Cornish Blue
    Indigo
    John_N
    LewisDuckworth
    LucyJones
    MalcolmG
    MP-SE
    NorfolkTillDie
    runnymeade
    TCPoliticalBetting
    ThreeQuidder
    Do you only keep track of Leavers?
    Two people 11 usernames.
  • VerulamiusVerulamius Posts: 1,429
    I'm another remainder.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:



    Sean T was also Leave.

    I think that right of centre Remainers are far more heavily represented here than in the general population, left of centre Remainers are much less heavily represented,

    Yes, I think that's a very fair point. I consider myself to be on the right-wing of the Liberal Democrats so would consider myself a right of centre Remainer - even if only marginally right of centre.

    Sean_F said:



    Sean T was also Leave.

    I think that right of centre Remainers are far more heavily represented here than in the general population, left of centre Remainers are much less heavily represented,

    Yes, I think that's a very fair point. I consider myself to be on the right-wing of the Liberal Democrats so would consider myself a right of centre Remainer - even if only marginally right of centre.
    In my experience, it's much more common to read social media in which left wing voters get berated by other left wingers for voting against the social democracy provided by the EU, rather than blogs such as this where right wing Leavers get criticised for voting against the interests of the City and multinationals.
    If there's one thing on PB which seems to have accelerated in recent years it's how party allegiance really doesn't mean much any more.

    I found it curious that BevC who I would have described as more of a centrist suddenly jumped into a smash the state, break the mould advocate. Oddly no different from myself in many ways but she jumped left whereas I jumped right. Hence my main motivation for voting Leave.
    Rather sums up the difference between Northern and Southern Irish...
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    edited May 2018
    RoyalBlue said:

    I today exchanged on a property, so in three weeks' time I shall (for the second time in my life) be an Essex boy. I have a feeling that means that train timetable analogies will be becoming altogether more real.

    Congratulations!

    @Pulpstar - I would be flattered to be included in your electoral roll of PB. Particularly as I voted Leave twice.
    In the same or different fete this referendums*

    * Or referenda. Whatever. Go knock yourself out
  • surbysurby Posts: 1,227

    Pulpstar said:

    Sean_F said:



    I think Carlotta Vance was Remain, and Wulfrun Phil and Tissue Price were leave.

    Carlotta, can you confirm :) ?
    I supported Remain, just as I support the outcome of the vote.
    Carlotta, HYUFD are loyal Party supporters. They will side whichever way their Leader goes.
  • surbysurby Posts: 1,227
    "Since the referendum around 1.2m electors have died, while 1.4m have joined the electorate. If we extrapolate from YouGov’s data from the youngest and oldest voters, and take account of variations in turnout by age, then I reckon that around 600,000 Leave voters, and 300,000 Remain voters have died; while 650,000 young Remainers and 150,000 Leave supporters have joined the voting population. Combine these figures, and these demographic factors have given us 350,000 extra Remain voters and 450,000 fewer Leave voters."
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