If it will fail to increase employment how come since it was launched we've seen employment skyrocket to record levels?
It is failing to increase employment amongst the long term unemployed.
The new jobs are being taken by new entrants in the labour market.
When was it introduced ?
It is still being rolled out.
They are doing it in several phases
Thanks.
Its still behind schedule then - not surprisingly.
As to its effect on the long term unemployed there's clearly a 'Giro Jim' component to them, how big that is I don't know.
They trialled it in a few places.
Then rolled it out to other places where new claimants are automatically put on Universal Credit.
Then the plan is by 2020 move across all other existing benefit claimants.
The ticking timebomb is most of the tax credits recipients are yet to move over to UC.
My friend works in a UC JCP and she says it is a disaster. It is great in theory but the logistics of it are messed up.
Many moons ago I used to volunteer 3 hours a week helping the families of prisoners with problems, the chap that runs that clinic says UC is so pernicious, it is an Orwellian nightmare.
Says he's branched out to helping any families and he and his staff are having to give them money and food, that's how bad the situation is.
Dominic Grieve MP on Radio 4 just now has called the Daily Mail a "vile" newspaper, which seeks to stir up hatred.
He toned that down.
Better known as the Daily Blackshirt!
It's always amused me somewhat that the Mail is never allowed to forget its brief flirtation with Fascism, while the Mirror, who were unabashed supporters of Mosley for far longer and whose readership was a great deal more - shall we say - niche is given a free pass on the issue.
Perhaps because the Mail has continued to plough a very rightwing furrow - every bit as extreme as The Morning Star or Socialist Worker on the left.
Well, the Mirror was 'recently' () owned by Robert Maxwell and now supports Corbyn...
I'm off to bed 'cause it is Eid tomorrow, one of the two days a year I have to pretend to be a good Muslim.
That's pathetically slow! On another note, I wouldn't mind living again in Taplow, where I was for a short time, in order to Dominic Grieve a piece of my mind.
I think many of us are now prepared for No Deal. It will fuck everything up for a year or two, and London property owners (like me) will take a major hit, but we are the British, we have been through far, far worse.
And in the end, total freedom from the EU might well be a huge economic boost. Who knows?
Either way we shall be free. If it is No Deal. So be it.
Yeah, do you really think that British exports purchased by European customers are going to magically roll over to non-European customers? I would like to see you sell Dutch books in China or German books in India!
I have never understood why Derivative trading in London for German, French or Italian customers will be magically changed to countries that might not have developed to the point where they need high ended Financial services for instance.
I just think Brexit is a process of self harm economically and downturns are NEVER easy for those who are afflicted by the fall out.
I doubt property will take. If salaries fall it might have a negative affect but i doubt that is going to happen.
Do you think all Europeans are going to stop buying British goods after a no deal Brexit?
They won't be made in Britain any more. Why produce stuff in the UK for sale to the EU when you can produce it in the EU and avoid the costs and hassle of exporting?
So you think all the British companies that export to the EU will just move operations to Europe then? Do you think all the European companies that export to Britain will do the reverse?
Not all will move from the the UK to the EU and not all at once. But no-one will be investing in the UK because of Brexit while plenty of companies are making the marginal decisions to place their investments in the EU and out of the UK.
Companies that want to fill the demand left the by the European companies whose products are now un-competitive in the UK will fill the hole. The lesson of the 30's is that the countries that had a trade deficit did better than those that had a surplus.
In many instances, the UK market isn’t big enough to justify the investments needed to build production facilities from scratch.
Disabled protesters have thrown red paint over Downing Street's gates during a protest against the Government's welfare reforms.
The group chanted slogans against the Prime Minister, Tony Blair, outside his official residence, Number 10 Downing Street.
The paint was thrown at the gate blocking public access to the street from Whitehall.
"Blair's Blood" was daubed on the pavement nearby.
Four protesters got out of their wheelchairs to smear the red paint on the road.
Kevin Donnellon, 35, a thalidomide victim, said the Government's intention to reform the benefits system would lead him to lose his invalidity benefit and mobility allowance.
He said: "I will not be able to run my car without my benefit and allowance money.
"These benefits are worth around £150 a week to me and my whole lifestyle is based around getting this money.
I do not believe that was FF43’s point. The point being made is that if your biggest market is the single market you are likely to be better off based inside it than outside it. I don’t see how that is being negative about Britain.
He literally predicted zero investment in the UK after Brexit. There's being negative, but that's something else entirely!
I didn't say that either. I said no-one was investing in the UK because of Brexit but plenty of people were making marginal decisions to invest in the EU that would otherwise have gone to the UK, because of Brexit. That translates into less investment, business, jobs and wealth than we would otherwise have. It's reasonable and accurate to say that Brexit has a negative effect ON Britain.it doesn't mean I'm negative ABOUT Britain.
I'm off to bed 'cause it is Eid tomorrow, one of the two days a year I have to pretend to be a good Muslim.
That's pathetically slow!
Well in fairness the result was actually known about 5 minutes after the vacancy was announced so it is not as though a rush is needed, those with bets on turnout and second finishers can afford to sweat for a few hours.
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (which they seem to think she did, even if she would say otherwise) then their previous reluctance to unintentionally engender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
I may be naiive, but even among the murky depths of politics there must be times when you need to trust someone, on your side or another side, and while spin and obfuscation and other tactics are all part of the game, certain behaviours, direct deceipt for instance, will not be regarded as sensible tactics, and will lead to personal disagreements the likes of which will cause some people to behave irrationally out of anger down the line.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
A Canada style FTA destroys integrated manufacturing chains. It’s hard to see how the government can go ahead with one. The EU would do such a deal. The problems with it are all on our side.
I do not believe that was FF43’s point. The point being made is that if your biggest market is the single market you are likely to be better off based inside it than outside it. I don’t see how that is being negative about Britain.
He literally predicted zero investment in the UK after Brexit. There's being negative, but that's something else entirely!
Like Jacob Rees Mogg and Somerset Capital Management then! They have next to No investment in the UK! JRM backing Britain- NOT!
You should check Saliston Ltd and Pickering and Chatto International. I'm sure JRM would love to talk about where that all traces back to!
Disabled protesters have thrown red paint over Downing Street's gates during a protest against the Government's welfare reforms.
The group chanted slogans against the Prime Minister, Tony Blair, outside his official residence, Number 10 Downing Street.
The paint was thrown at the gate blocking public access to the street from Whitehall.
"Blair's Blood" was daubed on the pavement nearby.
Four protesters got out of their wheelchairs to smear the red paint on the road.
Kevin Donnellon, 35, a thalidomide victim, said the Government's intention to reform the benefits system would lead him to lose his invalidity benefit and mobility allowance.
He said: "I will not be able to run my car without my benefit and allowance money.
"These benefits are worth around £150 a week to me and my whole lifestyle is based around getting this money.
A Canada style FTA destroys integrated manufacturing chains. It’s hard to see how the government can go ahead with one. The EU would do such a deal. The problems with it are all on our side.
@FF43 - Delotte's in Germany did the work. Germany loses 800,000 auto exports to the UK. The UK looses 300K to EU. The UK market has a 500K gap to fill either by home grown production or from RoW suppliers. The EU has 500K surplus production looking for non existent customers. It is that simple.
Yeah, do you really think that British exports purchased by European customers are going to magically roll over to non-European customers? I would like to see you sell Dutch books in China or German books in India!
I just think Brexit is a process of self harm economically and downturns are NEVER easy for those who are afflicted by the fall out.
I doubt property will take much of a hit by the way. The Bank of England will just relax monetary policy to compensate, if Sterling falls more outside buyers will invest in property at the right price. If interest rates are lower it will pull in more buyers. If salaries fall it might have a negative affect but i doubt that is going to happen.
Do you think all Europeans are going to stop buying British goods after a no deal Brexit?
They won't be made in Britain any more. Why produce stuff in the UK for sale to the EU when you can produce it in the EU and avoid the costs and hassle of exporting?
The Single Market has a population of 400 million. The UK doesn’t.
Preparing for Brexit is like preparing to fail. I can see this becoming very unpopular even with those duped into supporting it.
The impact would be mitigated by a fall in imports from the EU.
Not necessarily. I cannot see BMW cars being banned or wine consumption going down because of Brexit. Changing peoples habits is a difficult ask. For instance if you have a favorite Wine or Beer that comes from Germany, France or Italy - will the consumer change? I have noticed that Brexit minded people like yourself do not seem to factor in that peoples habits die hard. The terms of trade are that poor with the EU that even if Imports fell at the same rate as exports we will still be a net importer.
UK exporters on the other hand will be in the unique position of having effectively been sanctioned by their own Government! Unless we put Tariffs on the EU, which I do not see happening Brexit is a one sided move against its own country. It is mad! UK companies will be locked out of the EU market. It is as simple as that.
I do not believe that was FF43’s point. The point being made is that if your biggest market is the single market you are likely to be better off based inside it than outside it. I don’t see how that is being negative about Britain.
He literally predicted zero investment in the UK after Brexit. There's being negative, but that's something else entirely!
No, he didn’t. He said Brexit would not lead to people investing in the UK.
Ah, thanks. My apologies FF43! I thought you meant because of Brexit no one was going to invest in the UK, which was ludicrous!
@FF43 - Delotte's in Germany did the work. Germany loses 800,000 auto exports to the UK. The UK looses 300K to EU. The UK market has a 500K gap to fill either by home grown production or from RoW suppliers. The EU has 500K surplus production looking for non existent customers. It is that simple.
We could buy less new cars? A drop in consumption wouldn’t be the end of the world from a health and environment point of view?
@FF43 - Delotte's in Germany did the work. Germany loses 800,000 auto exports to the UK. The UK looses 300K to EU. The UK market has a 500K gap to fill either by home grown production or from RoW suppliers. The EU has 500K surplus production looking for non existent customers. It is that simple.
We could buy less new cars? A drop in consumption wouldn’t be the end of the world from a health and environment point of view?
I fully agree and Carney is trying to stop it, he is worried about PCP. Small terraced house, his and hers Porches on the drive, Greece all over again,
Aberdeenshire Staffordshire Herefordshire Somerset Surrey Kent
A rather miserly six.
The Telegraph ad an article on this. What we had was a cold Feb and March, which meant the crop was delayed by 6 weeks, but the fruit was larger and juicier. As a result we have a bumper crop of extraordinary strawberries this year in size and juice. So tuck in, because the foreign imports are sub standard compared to home grown.
Loads of Strawberries on sale in my local Tesco tonight - the weather over the past month seems to have led to a bumper crop. Even selling strawberries by the kilogram as well as 300 / 600g packs - good to see!
I do not believe that was FF43’s point. The point being made is that if your biggest market is the single market you are likely to be better off based inside it than outside it. I don’t see how that is being negative about Britain.
He literally predicted zero investment in the UK after Brexit. There's being negative, but that's something else entirely!
No, he didn’t. He said Brexit would not lead to people investing in the UK.
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (which they seem to think she did, even if she would say otherwise) then their previous reluctance to unintentionally engender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
I may be naiive, but even among the murky depths of politics there must be times when you need to trust someone, on your side or another side, and while spin and obfuscation and other tactics are all part of the game, certain behaviours, direct deceipt for instance, will not be regarded as sensible tactics, and will lead to personal disagreements the likes of which will cause some people to behave irrationally out of anger down the line.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of the deal on citizens' rights, the exit bill and regulatory alignment was agreed between May and Barnier in December, everything else since has just been hot air.
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (which they seem to think she did, even if she would say otherwise) then their previous reluctance to unintentionally engender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
I may be naiive, but even among the murky depths of politics there must be times when you need to trust someone, on your side or another side, and while spin and obfuscation and other tactics are all part of the game, certain behaviours, direct deceipt for instance, will not be regarded as sensible tactics, and will lead to personal disagreements the likes of which will cause some people to behave irrationally out of anger down the line.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of the deal on citizens' rights, the exit bill and regulatory alignment was agreed between May and Barnier in December, everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet to agree with itself on regulatory alignment. But if it wants a job-destroying, City-harming, Canada-style FTA it can undoubtedly get one.
I do not believe that was FF43’s point. The point being made is that if your biggest market is the single market you are likely to be better off based inside it than outside it. I don’t see how that is being negative about Britain.
He literally predicted zero investment in the UK after Brexit. There's being negative, but that's something else entirely!
No, he didn’t. He said Brexit would not lead to people investing in the UK.
Ah, thanks. My apologies FF43! I thought you meant because of Brexit no one was going to invest in the UK, which was ludicrous!
Somehow I think the market may duck the big decisions over the next fortnight or so with the world cup on, but should get some fireworks again soon in the sovereign debt markets ie watch Italian government paper. We need follow through at some point after the stupendous move on the 29th May. Nice USD strength today, the great dollar bull run over the next 2.5 years is in its infancy. Its going to be a great ride in USD denominated assets that are going to rise long term like the US stockmarket and gold. As for a lot of other things ..........
@FF43 - Delotte's in Germany did the work. Germany loses 800,000 auto exports to the UK. The UK looses 300K to EU. The UK market has a 500K gap to fill either by home grown production or from RoW suppliers. The EU has 500K surplus production looking for non existent customers. It is that simple.
It isn't that simple. Hard Brexit will lead to a number of automotive job losses in Germany and a much larger number in the UK. In fact those job losses have already started in component suppliers as OEMs repatriate their supply chains to the rEU.
But don't you think we should worry more about our own job losses rather than German ones?
Enjoyed the chaos of PMQ's yesterday. Was good fun with Bercow made to look like the complete fool that he is!
Not sure a silly stunt, whether there was genuine and justified aggrievement behind it, makes him look much of a fool.
I believe what the SNP MP's were saying, that the 'stunt' genuinely wasn't planned. Bercow and his entourage flustering around not knowing what to do was a delight
I do not believe that was FF43’s point. The point being made is that if your biggest market is the single market you are likely to be better off based inside it than outside it. I don’t see how that is being negative about Britain.
He literally predicted zero investment in the UK after Brexit. There's being negative, but that's something else entirely!
No, he didn’t. He said Brexit would not lead to people investing in the UK.
No, they'll invest despite Brexit.
That’s pretty much it. Companies whose major market is the UK will continue to invest in the UK.
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (which they seem to think she did, even if she would say otherwise) then their previous reluctance to unintentionally engender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
I may be naiive, but even among the murky depths of politics there must be times when you need to trust someone, on your side or another side, and while spin and obfuscation and other tactics are all part of the game, certain behaviours, direct deceipt for instance, will not be regarded as sensible tactics, and will lead to personal disagreements the likes of which will cause some people to behave irrationally out of anger down the line.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of the deal on citizens' rights, the exit bill and regulatory alignment was agreed between May and Barnier in December, everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet to agree with itself on regulatory alignment. But if it wants a job-destroying, City-harming, Canada-style FTA it can undoubtedly get one.
Perhaps we could opt for freedom of movement with Canada instead and just not bother with more going nowhere negotiations with Barnier and co - after all it would be nice to actually have FOM with a country most Brits would have some interest in moving to!
I do not believe that was FF43’s point. The point being made is that if your biggest market is the single market you are likely to be better off based inside it than outside it. I don’t see how that is being negative about Britain.
He literally predicted zero investment in the UK after Brexit. There's being negative, but that's something else entirely!
No, he didn’t. He said Brexit would not lead to people investing in the UK.
No, they'll invest despite Brexit.
That’s pretty much it. Companies whose major market is the UK will continue to invest in the UK.
Absolutely. What the remoaners don't understand is the reality of business. You can't replicate the financial architecture that the City of London has overnight in another financial centre such as Frankfurt. According to some of them, Frankfurt was going to dwarf London by now as a financial centre given Brexit nearly 2 years ago. About as accurate as all the global warming rubbish put out from so many of the same crowd.
@FF43 - Delotte's in Germany did the work. Germany loses 800,000 auto exports to the UK. The UK looses 300K to EU. The UK market has a 500K gap to fill either by home grown production or from RoW suppliers. The EU has 500K surplus production looking for non existent customers. It is that simple.
It isn't that simple. Hard Brexit will lead to a number of automotive job losses in Germany and a much larger number in the UK. In fact those job losses have already started in component suppliers as OEMs repatriate their supply chains to the rEU.
But don't you think we should worry more about our own job losses rather than German ones?
Totally wrong. Suppliers are already moving to the UK. The FT has articles on it. JLR has convinced their French plastic bumper supplier to open a factory here. Liberty has moved production of door safety bars to the UK, new pressing plant in Coventy, Allow wheel production facility in Scotland, the list is endless.
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (which they seem to think she did, even if she would say otherwise) then their previous reluctance to unintentionally engender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
I may be naiive, but even among the murky depths of politics there must be times when you need to trust someone, on your side or another side, and while spin and obfuscation and other tactics are all part of the game, certain behaviours, direct deceipt for instance, will not be regarded as sensible tactics, and will lead to personal disagreements the likes of which will cause some people to behave irrationally out of anger down the line.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of the deal on citizens' rights, the exit bill and regulatory alignment was agreed between May and Barnier in December, everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet to agree with itself on regulatory alignment. But if it wants a job-destroying, City-harming, Canada-style FTA it can undoubtedly get one.
A Canada style FTA would respect the Brexit vote to regain sovereignty and restore control over EU immigration while avoiding the job destruction of WTO terms Brexit
So Theresa May reached out with a compromise to Dominic Grieve and he has turned round and spat in her face. She should just withdraw the whip. He seems intent on destroying his party and letting in Corbyn after all.
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (which they seem to think she did, even if she would say otherwise) then their previous reluctance to unintentionally engender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
I may be naiive, but even among the murky depths of politics there must be times when you need to trust someone, on your side or another side, and while spin and obfuscation and other tactics are all part of the game, certain behaviours, direct deceipt for instance, will not be regarded as sensible tactics, and will lead to personal disagreements the likes of which will cause some people to behave irrationally out of anger down the line.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of the deal on citizens' rights, the exit bill and regulatory alignment was agreed between May and Barnier in December, everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet to agree with itself on regulatory alignment. But if it wants a job-destroying, City-harming, Canada-style FTA it can undoubtedly get one.
Construction and agricultural wages are already surging in the UK for the working class. But you want to put the bankers first.
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (which they seem to think she did, even if she would say otherwise) then their previous reluctance to unintentionally engender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
I may be naiive, but even among the murky depths of politics there must be times when you need to trust someone, on your side or another side, and while spin and obfuscation and other tactics are all part of the game, certain behaviours, direct deceipt for instance, will not be regarded as sensible tactics, and will lead to personal disagreements the likes of which will cause some people to behave irrationally out of anger down the line.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of the deal on citizens' rights, the exit bill and regulatory alignment was agreed between May and Barnier in December, everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet to agree with itself on regulatory alignment. But if it wants a job-destroying, City-harming, Canada-style FTA it can undoubtedly get one.
A Canada style FTA would respect the Brexit vote to regain sovereignty and restore control over EU immigration while avoiding the job destruction of WTO terms Brexit
It would not avoid job destruction. The only issue is the scale.
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (which they seem to think she did, even if she would say otherwise) then their previous reluctance to unintentionally engender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
I may be naiive, but even among the murky depths of politics there must be times when you need to trust someone, on your side or another side, and while spin and obfuscation and other tactics are all part of the game, certain behaviours, direct deceipt for instance, will not be regarded as sensible tactics, and will lead to personal disagreements the likes of which will cause some people to behave irrationally out of anger down the line.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of the deal on citizens' rights, the exit bill and regulatory alignment was agreed between May and Barnier in December, everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet to agree with itself on regulatory alignment. But if it wants a job-destroying, City-harming, Canada-style FTA it can undoubtedly get one.
You'll be pleased to know that I'll be back in the UK working for a Japanese bank in a few months. They've assured me that the role won't be moving anywhere outside of the City and if it does I will get a pretty big payout.
If Brexit is destroying the City, you should probably tell the banks. I don't think they know yet.
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (which they seem to think she did, even if she would say otherwise) then their previous reluctance to unintentionally engender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
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A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of the deal on citizens' rights, the exit bill and regulatory alignment was agreed between May and Barnier in December, everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet to agree with itself on regulatory alignment. But if it wants a job-destroying, City-harming, Canada-style FTA it can undoubtedly get one.
A Canada style FTA would respect the Brexit vote to regain sovereignty and restore control over EU immigration while avoiding the job destruction of WTO terms Brexit
It would not avoid job destruction. The only issue is the scale.
Some jobs would be lost. Some would be gained. But working class wages will rise and housing unaffordability will slow.
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (which they seem to think she did, even if she would say otherwise) then their previous reluctance to unintentionally engender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
I may be naiive, but even among the murky depths of politics there must be times when you need to trust someone, on your side or another side, and while spin and obfuscation and other tactics are all part of the game, certain behaviours, direct deceipt for instance, will not be regarded as sensible tactics, and will lead to personal disagreements the likes of which will cause some people to behave irrationally out of anger down the line.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of the deal on citizens' rights, the exit bill and regulatory alignment was agreed between May and Barnier in December, everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet to agree with itself on regulatory alignment. But if it wants a job-destroying, City-harming, Canada-style FTA it can undoubtedly get one.
Construction and agricultural wages are already surging in the UK for the working class. But you want to put the bankers first.
Construction workers already earn more than the traditional lower/middle class.
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (which they seem to think she did, even if she would say otherwise) then their previous reluctance to unintentionally engender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
I may be naiiveance, will not be regarded as sensible tactics, and will lead to personal disagreements the likes of which will cause some people to behave irrationally out of anger down the line.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of the deal on citizens' rights, the exit bill and regulatory alignment was agreed between May and Barnier in December, everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet to agree with itself on regulatory alignment. But if it wants a job-destroying, City-harming, Canada-style FTA it can undoubtedly get one.
Construction and agricultural wages are already surging in the UK for the working class. But you want to put the bankers first.
Surging :-D
I want wealth to be created sustainably because I believe its redistribution is the best way to create equality of opportunity and to make society fairer. I don’t think you do that by reducing tax take, increasing borrowing costs and lowering investments in public services. Sorry.
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (which they seem to think she did, even if she would say otherwise) then their previous reluctance to unintentionally engender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
I may be naiive, but even among the murky depths of politics there must wn the line.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of the deal on citizens' rights, the exit bill and regulatory alignment was agreed between May and Barnier in December, everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet to agree with itself on regulatory alignment. But if it wants a job-destroying, City-harming, Canada-style FTA it can undoubtedly get one.
A Canada style FTA would respect the Brexit vote to regain sovereignty and restore control over EU immigration while avoiding the job destruction of WTO terms Brexit
It would not avoid job destruction. The only issue is the scale.
The 52% of Leave voters put regaining sovereignty and reducing immigration first above the economy so that has be respected given they won but the 48% of Remain voters who put the economy first also need to be considered in trying to get some sort of free trade deal even if we leave the single market and customs union as the Commons has now confirmed
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (which they seem to think she did, even if she would say otherwise) then their previous reluctance to unintentionally engender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
I may be naiive, but even among the will not be regarded as sensible tactics, and will lead to personal disagreements the likes of which will cause some people to behave irrationally out of anger down the line.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of the deal on citizens' rights, the exit bill and regulatory alignment was agreed between May and Barnier in December, everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet to agree with itself on regulatory alignment. But if it wants a job-destroying, City-harming, Canada-style FTA it can undoubtedly get one.
You'll be pleased to know that I'll be back in the UK working for a Japanese bank in a few months. They've assured me that the role won't be moving anywhere outside of the City and if it does I will get a pretty big payout.
If Brexit is destroying the City, you should probably tell the banks. I don't think they know yet.
Brexit has yet to happen. A Canada-style FTA will undoubtedly damage the City.
I just found out that Dominic Grieve was educated during his formative years in a French school owned by the French government. That explains a few things!
I just found out that Dominic Grieve was educated during his formative years in a French school owned by the French government. That explains a few things!
I just found out that Dominic Grieve was educated during his formative years in a French school owned by the French government. That explains a few things!
Yep, he’s very smart.
Years of private education and had to get his law degree from a polytechnic?
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (whichengender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
I may be naiive, but even among the murky depths of politics there must wn the line.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet get one.
A Canada style FTA would respect the Brexit vote to regain sovereignty and restore control over EU immigration while avoiding the job destruction of WTO terms Brexit
It would not avoid job destruction. The only issue is the scale.
The 52% of Leave voters put regaining sovereignty and reducing immigration first above the economy so that has be respected given they won but the 48% of Remain voters who put the economy first also need to be considered in trying to get some sort of free trade deal even if we leave the single market and customs union as the Commons has now confirmed
Some of the 52% put regaining sovereignty and reducing immigration above the economy. Others voted on the basis that there would be no downside to voting Leave.
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (which they seem to think she did, even if she would say otherwise) then their previous reluctance to unintentionally engender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of the deal on citizens' rights, the exit bill and regulatory alignment was agreed between May and Barnier in December, everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet to agree with itself on regulatory alignment. But if it wants a job-destroying, City-harming, Canada-style FTA it can undoubtedly get one.
A Canada style FTA would respect the Brexit vote to regain sovereignty and restore control over EU immigration while avoiding the job destruction of WTO terms Brexit
It would not avoid job destruction. The only issue is the scale.
Some jobs would be lost. Some would be gained. But working class wages will rise and housing unaffordability will slow.
What makes you think working class people with jobs in the car, aerospace and similar high-grade manufacturing sectors will see their wages rise?
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (which they seem to think she did, even if she would say otherwise) then their previous reluctance to unintentionally engender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
I may be naiive, but even among the murky depths of politics there must be times when you need to trust someone, on your side or another side, and while spin and obfuscation and other tactics are all part of the game, certain behaviours, direct deceipt for instance, will not be regarded as sensible tactics, and will lead to personal disagreements the likes of which will cause some people to behave irrationally out of anger down the line.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of the deal on citizens' rights, the exit bill and regulatory alignment was agreed between May and Barnier in December, everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet to agree with itself on regulatory alignment. But if it wants a job-destroying, City-harming, Canada-style FTA it can undoubtedly get one.
Perhaps we could opt for freedom of movement with Canada instead and just not bother with more going nowhere negotiations with Barnier and co - after all it would be nice to actually have FOM with a country most Brits would have some interest in moving to!
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (which they seem to think she did, even if she would say otherwise) then their previous reluctance to unintentionally engender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of the deal on citizens' rights, the exit bill and regulatory alignment was agreed between May and Barnier in December, everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet to agree with itself on regulatory alignment. But if it wants a job-destroying, City-harming, Canada-style FTA it can undoubtedly get one.
A Canada style FTA would respect the Brexit vote to regain sovereignty and restore control over EU immigration while avoiding the job destruction of WTO terms Brexit
It would not avoid job destruction. The only issue is the scale.
Some jobs would be lost. Some would be gained. But working class wages will rise and housing unaffordability will slow.
What makes you think working class people with jobs in the car, aerospace and similar high-grade manufacturing sectors will see their wages rise?
Brexit has yet to happen. A Canada-style FTA will undoubtedly damage the City.
It's happening and the Bank is already preparing to lose the Passport. Yet all the banks are hiring at what seems to be record levels. The City isn't the Passport, no matter how much the Commission would have everyone believe.
Brexit has yet to happen. A Canada-style FTA will undoubtedly damage the City.
It's happening and the Bank is already preparing to lose the Passport. Yet all the banks are hiring at what seems to be record levels. The City isn't the Passport, no matter how much the Commission would have everyone believe.
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet get one.
A Canada style FTA would respect the Brexit vote to regain sovereignty and restore control over EU immigration while avoiding the job destruction of WTO terms Brexit
It would not avoid job destruction. The only issue is the scale.
The 52%
Some of the 52% put regaining sovereignty and reducing immigration above the economy. Others voted on the basis that there would be no downside to voting Leave.
I put the economy first staying out of the wretched mess that is the Euro and its inevitable demise over the next 2-3 years. As I've said before, Asia is the future, not Europe. Lets be free to have free trade agreements with everyone to the benefit of the UK, and not hide behind the common external tariff. Polling after the referendum said that 3pc of us voted leave on economic grounds, ie just over 1.5% of the population. I'd like to think that we were the most enlightened section of the electorate if split 6 ways across leave / remain and immigration / sovereignty / economics!
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (whichengender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do h lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
I mane.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optto me.
The basis of everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet get one.
A Canada style FTA would respect the Brexit vote to regain sovereignty and restore control over EU immigration while avoiding the job destruction of WTO terms Brexit
It would not avoid job destruction. The only issue is the scale.
The 52% of Leave voters put regaining sovereig the Commons has now confirmed
Some of the 52% put regaining sovereignty and reducing immigration above the economy. Others voted on the basis that there would be no downside to voting Leave.
The top 2 reasons for voting Leave were:
1. 'The principle that decisions about the UK should be taken in the UK'
2. 'Voting to leave offered the best chance for the UK to regain control over immigration and its own borders.'
The top 2 reasons given for voting Remain were:
1. 'The risks of voting to leave the EU looked too great when it came to things like the economy, jobs and prices.'
2. 'Access to the EU single market, while out of the Euro and no borders area, giving best of both worlds.'
That's why No Deal and No Brexit seem the most likely outcomes - the parliament (and the Tory Party) can politically only accept things which apparently are no goers. It's not even a matter of May capitulating at the end of it, since it may be simply impossible for her to do so.
I think Sir Graham Brady's postie will be very busy in the next few days.
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet get one.
A Canada style FTA would respect the Brexit vote to regain sovereignty and restore control over EU immigration while avoiding the job destruction of WTO terms Brexit
It would not avoid job destruction. The only issue is the scale.
The 52%
Some of the 52% put regaining sovereignty and reducing immigration above the economy. Others voted on the basis that there would be no downside to voting Leave.
I put the economy first staying out of the wretched mess that is the Euro and its inevitable demise over the next 2-3 years. As I've said before, Asia is the future, not Europe. Lets be free to have free trade agreements with everyone to the benefit of the UK, and not hide behind the common external tariff. Polling after the referendum said that 3pc of us voted leave on economic grounds, ie just over 1.5% of the population. I'd like to think that we were the most enlightened section of the electorate if split 6 ways across leave / remain and immigration / sovereignty / economics!
Though the UK's largest market remains the EU and the second largest market the USA, we have a long way to go before Asia is the number two let alone number 1 destination for UK exports
If May is prepared to deceive them (which they seem to think she did, even if she would say otherwise) then their previous reluctance to unintentionally engender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
I may be naiive, but even among the murky depths of politics there must be times when you need to trust someone, on your side or another side, and while spin and obfuscation and other tactics are all part of the game, certain behaviours, direct deceipt for instance, will not be regarded as sensible tactics, and will lead to personal disagreements the likes of which will cause some people to behave irrationally out of anger down the line.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of the deal on citizens' rights, the exit bill and regulatory alignment was agreed between May and Barnier in December, everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet to agree with itself on regulatory alignment. But if it wants a job-destroying, City-harming, Canada-style FTA it can undoubtedly get one.
Perhaps we could opt for freedom of movement with Canada instead and just not bother with more going nowhere negotiations with Barnier and co - after all it would be nice to actually have FOM with a country most Brits would have some interest in moving to!
I believe that when the NHS was launched its advocates suggested that it would be so successful at improving the nation's health that funding would fall in future years.
They underestimated the increased usage of the health service now people no longer had to pay at the point of use.
Lewisham have always been slow at counting votes. In 1983 they were pretty much the last London seats to declare at about 5am, (IIRC from watching the replay on BBC Parliament).
So Theresa May reached out with a compromise to Dominic Grieve and he has turned round and spat in her face. She should just withdraw the whip. He seems intent on destroying his party and letting in Corbyn after all.
That's an odd interpretation. She seems to have vacillated to the last and finally come down on the hard Brexiteer side. You should be pleased, surely? But it would have been more elegant to tell him than to say one thing and do something else.
well-placed rumour is that Labour majority in Lewisham East has been slashed thanks to strong surge by the Liberal Democrats"
twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1007401058962944000
Given the turnout is only 33 per cent compared to nearly 70 per cent in the 2017 GE isn't it inevitable that the current 21,000 majority will be 'slashed'.
In the end Lewisham east will have elected another Labour MP - and a few remainers in Blackheath can feel satisfied they made their safe protest and backed the LDs. And it will change precisely nothing.
Former FBI Director James Comey, who led the investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of personal email while secretary of state, also used his personal email to conduct official business, according to a report from the Justice Department on Thursday.
The Russians and Chinese must piss themselves at this kind of behaviour.
Maybe it's me but has anyone noticed Jeremy Corbyn - or his doppelgänger - appears mid way through the BBCs World Cup opening credits. He appears to be arranging some Russian dolls on the Moscow metro?!
Maybe it's me but has anyone noticed Jeremy Corbyn - or his doppelgänger - appears mid way through the BBCs World Cup opening credits. He appears to be arranging some Russian dolls on the Moscow metro?!
well-placed rumour is that Labour majority in Lewisham East has been slashed thanks to strong surge by the Liberal Democrats"
twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1007401058962944000
Given the turnout is only 33 per cent compared to nearly 70 per cent in the 2017 GE isn't it inevitable that the current 21,000 majority will be 'slashed'.
In the end Lewisham east will have elected another Labour MP - and a few remainers in Blackheath can feel satisfied they made their safe protest and backed the LDs. And it will change precisely nothing.
Yes, I think we all pretty much assume that outcome. But one never knows.
well-placed rumour is that Labour majority in Lewisham East has been slashed thanks to strong surge by the Liberal Democrats"
twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1007401058962944000
Given the turnout is only 33 per cent compared to nearly 70 per cent in the 2017 GE isn't it inevitable that the current 21,000 majority will be 'slashed'.
In the end Lewisham east will have elected another Labour MP - and a few remainers in Blackheath can feel satisfied they made their safe protest and backed the LDs. And it will change precisely nothing.
The 33% turnout in the Lewisham East by election is the lowest for a parliamentary by election contested by all the main parties (which was not the case in Batley and Spen) since Sheffield Brightside and Hillsborough in February 2016.
The real winner though seems to have been voter apathy.
The great losers seem to be the Conservatives.
It was a Labour hold?
In terms of vote share, both Labour and Conservatives lost vote share significantly. The Conservatives also lost their previous second place. This suggests to me that the base-line of the last general election, where both Labour and Conservatives benefited from a polarisation of the vote, can now be consigned to the dustbin of history.
It also seems to be the end of the mythical "progressive alliance".
The real winner though seems to have been voter apathy.
The great losers seem to be the Conservatives.
It was a Labour hold?
In terms of vote share, both Labour and Conservatives lost vote share significantly. The Conservatives also lost their previous second place. This suggests to me that the base-line of the last general election, where both Labour and Conservatives benefited from a polarisation of the vote, can now be consigned to the dustbin of history.
It also seems to be the end of the mythical "progressive alliance".
The real winner though seems to have been voter apathy.
The great losers seem to be the Conservatives.
It was a Labour hold?
In terms of vote share, both Labour and Conservatives lost vote share significantly. The Conservatives also lost their previous second place. This suggests to me that the base-line of the last general election, where both Labour and Conservatives benefited from a polarisation of the vote, can now be consigned to the dustbin of history.
It also seems to be the end of the mythical "progressive alliance".
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And with that, I bid one and all good night.
The group chanted slogans against the Prime Minister, Tony Blair, outside his official residence, Number 10 Downing Street.
The paint was thrown at the gate blocking public access to the street from Whitehall.
"Blair's Blood" was daubed on the pavement nearby.
Four protesters got out of their wheelchairs to smear the red paint on the road.
Kevin Donnellon, 35, a thalidomide victim, said the Government's intention to reform the benefits system would lead him to lose his invalidity benefit and mobility allowance.
He said: "I will not be able to run my car without my benefit and allowance money.
"These benefits are worth around £150 a week to me and my whole lifestyle is based around getting this money.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/41746.stm
Night all.
It is that simple.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
http://www.pretzelcharts.com/
Somehow I think the market may duck the big decisions over the next fortnight or so with the world cup on, but should get some fireworks again soon in the sovereign debt markets ie watch Italian government paper. We need follow through at some point after the stupendous move on the 29th May. Nice USD strength today, the great dollar bull run over the next 2.5 years is in its infancy. Its going to be a great ride in USD denominated assets that are going to rise long term like the US stockmarket and gold. As for a lot of other things ..........
But don't you think we should worry more about our own job losses rather than German ones?
If Brexit is destroying the City, you should probably tell the banks. I don't think they know yet.
I want wealth to be created sustainably because I believe its redistribution is the best way to create equality of opportunity and to make society fairer. I don’t think you do that by reducing tax take, increasing borrowing costs and lowering investments in public services. Sorry.
Also seems Mann trusts May more than Grieve does !
It’s the bedrock on which Brexit is built.
The People's Revolution must be protected!
There has been no advance amongst one of the most useless Governments in Europe for a decade. Eventually, even Plaid Cymru AMs noticed.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-city-of-london-jobs-market-freefall-number-of-vacancies-hits-sevenyear-low-a8201401.html
1. 'The principle that decisions about the UK should be taken in the UK'
2. 'Voting to leave offered the best chance for the UK to regain control over immigration and its own borders.'
The top 2 reasons given for voting Remain were:
1. 'The risks of voting to leave the EU looked too great when it came to things like the economy, jobs and prices.'
2. 'Access to the EU single market, while out of the Euro and no borders area, giving best of both worlds.'
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/
And the rebels want Boris do they
If May is prepared to deceive them (which they seem to think she did, even if she would say otherwise) then their previous reluctance to unintentionally engender such an outcome might alter.
I always thought - as do most voters- that politics was just another word for deceit plus Gieve and Soubry are both lawyers and that is their stock in trade.
I may be naiive, but even among the murky depths of politics there must be times when you need to trust someone, on your side or another side, and while spin and obfuscation and other tactics are all part of the game, certain behaviours, direct deceipt for instance, will not be regarded as sensible tactics, and will lead to personal disagreements the likes of which will cause some people to behave irrationally out of anger down the line.
A Canada style FTA remain the likeliest long term outcome
I think you're optimistic. The government doesn't have the numbers to positively for specific options, and lacks the numbers to accept fall back options, so inadvertent crash out looks much more likely to me.
The basis of the deal on citizens' rights, the exit bill and regulatory alignment was agreed between May and Barnier in December, everything else since has just been hot air.
A Canada style FTA also does not require FoM
The government has yet to agree with itself on regulatory alignment. But if it wants a job-destroying, City-harming, Canada-style FTA it can undoubtedly get one.
Perhaps we could opt for freedom of movement with Canada instead and just not bother with more going nowhere negotiations with Barnier and co - after all it would be nice to actually have FOM with a country most Brits would have some interest in moving to!
What’s in it for Canada?
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@dixiedean:
They'd get me back in an instant...so yeah, what IS in it for them?
Quite delicious.
"Jim Pickard
@PickardJE
well-placed rumour is that Labour majority in Lewisham East has been slashed thanks to strong surge by the Liberal Democrats"
twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1007401058962944000
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/06/14/theresa-may-poised-give-nhs-4bn-a-year-boost-funded-brexit-dividend/
In the end Lewisham east will have elected another Labour MP - and a few remainers in Blackheath can feel satisfied they made their safe protest and backed the LDs. And it will change precisely nothing.
The Russians and Chinese must piss themselves at this kind of behaviour.
Indeed it is lower than the 38% in Stoke South in 2017.
http://www.ukpolitical.info/by-election-turnout.htm
Aboo Green 788
Archer Cons 3161
Daly Labour 11033
Edward Libertarian 38
Hope Looney 93
Kirten UKIP 380
Martin CPA
Reid WEP 506
Salek 5404
Waters For Britain 287
So Labour hold, majority 5000 odd, down but still a clear win and the LDs do take second but not much too dramatic
The real winner though seems to have been voter apathy.
Con 327
Lab 208
LD 44
http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/cgi-bin/usercode.py?CON=34.9&LAB=23.3&LIB=27.8&UKIP=1.9&Green=3.6&NewLAB=&TVCON=&TVLAB=&TVLIB=&TVUKIP=&TVGreen=&SCOTCON=&SCOTLAB=&SCOTLIB=&SCOTUKIP=&SCOTGreen=&SCOTNAT=&display=AllChanged&regorseat=(none)&boundary=2017
Ho-hum, but the LD's can be rightly chuffed. They have done well, but this was a result never in doubt, despite the ejaculate flying earlier,
It also seems to be the end of the mythical "progressive alliance".
The Conservatives lost 37% of their vote, Labour lost 26%