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  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,540
    geoffw said:

    Remember Trump isn't talking to you in Great Britain.
    He's talking to his supporters in Great America.

    Very much so.....he’s clearly been dragged back on script by his speechwriters. But let’s wait for the questions....
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 40,950
    He really is someone who listens to and is influenced by the person he last saw.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 47,789
    TOPPING said:

    He heard about Chequers in history class?

    Also is he correct about Churchill calling from Chequers after Pearl Harbour? I thought it wasn't used at that time for security reasons.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,901
    So far so good. May has done well I think. And now the curve balls.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 50,776
    The budget approved in March contained $1.6bn for border barriers.
  • FensterFenster Posts: 2,115
    He's calling Tom Newton Dunn a liar.

    #fakenews

    I know who I'd trust and it wouldn't be Trump.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,004
    Did Trump really say the Suns report was fake news or did I miss hear
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,697
    edited July 2018

    The real question that needs to asked is "Who is brave enough to play golf with him?"

    Will he be hooking up with Alex and Nicola when he "goes north" at the weekend?

    They were all really good friends until they fell out over his golf course...
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,004
    Big change today by Trump
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    A Trump has been reading up!
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 40,950

    Did Trump really say the Suns report was fake news or did I miss hear

    lie down with dogs...
  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256

    Donald and me

    You are Theresa May????!???

    Does Mike know?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941

    Donald and me

    You are Theresa May????!???

    Does Mike know?
    The bigger question, does Osborne know? :o
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,004
    Looks as if Trump has dished the Sun today - fake news
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    Fenster said:

    He's calling Tom Newton Dunn a liar.

    #fakenews

    I know who I'd trust and it wouldn't be Trump.

    I would presume the Currant Bun have audio of their interview.
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487

    hello PB, first time I have commented since the days of "Tim", if anyone remembers him! I had a different moniker then, but enjoyed being the scourge of headbangers on the right and left. HYUFD and his deranged rantings at anyone without his "pure" world view have brought me back out of retirement!

    Is this the legendary Tim back on PB under his real name?
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,901
    Nato: "a lot of love in that room".

    ???
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,092
    Anazina said:

    hello PB, first time I have commented since the days of "Tim", if anyone remembers him! I had a different moniker then, but enjoyed being the scourge of headbangers on the right and left. HYUFD and his deranged rantings at anyone without his "pure" world view have brought me back out of retirement!

    Is this the legendary Tim back on PB under his real name?
    not his style
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Wow,trump on immigration ,no PC talk here.
  • FensterFenster Posts: 2,115

    Wow,trump on immigration ,no PC talk here.

    I hate to say it but he's just saying what most people are thinking. I was with some people who work high up in a council the other day and (even I) was shocked by how they discussed immigrants.

    My liberal nihilism prevents me from comment.
  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    edited July 2018
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  • FensterFenster Posts: 2,115
    He genuinely likes Theresa May.

    I watch enough Love Island to know a re-coupling when I see one.

    He's a player, so perhaps he can sense she's a dark horse.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 50,776
    Thanks. That is a brilliant chart. I would love to see a UK equivalent.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    The "Highest Level of Special" Relationship?

    Has a certain ring to it....
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,092
    Not so much a "chart of the century" as charts of the past 2 decades.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,004
    RobD said:

    The "Highest Level of Special" Relationship?

    Has a certain ring to it....

    This is a love in - amazing
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 50,776
    Well done to May for standing up for immigration in response to Trump's comments. She has done pretty well overall today. Trump is as controlled as I can recall him.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,540
    How Mrs May manages to keep a straight face.....
  • glwglw Posts: 9,535

    Did Trump really say the Suns report was fake news or did I miss hear

    Donald Trump lies repeatedly about ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING. Why would he not lie about something as trivial as a newspaper interview, when he will happily lie about important issues like nuclear proliferation?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,004
    DavidL said:

    Well done to May for standing up for immigration in response to Trump's comments. She has done pretty well overall today. Trump is as controlled as I can recall him.

    This press conference seems to have recovered the damage from the Sun fake news as he calls it
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    Do you think The Sun would release the full tape of Trump's interview?
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Trump is absolute box office . Tremendous entertainment.

    Add in the joy he is bringing to those who get to show off in London for an afternoon and it's the event of the year.

  • juniusjunius Posts: 73
    Anyone else squirming with embarrassment at Trump's responses to questions from the press ? The man is beyond parody.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,005
    Wonder what Fox News will make of it?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    RobD said:

    The "Highest Level of Special" Relationship?

    Trump is the highest level of special, in every sense
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,540

    Do you think The Sun would release the full tape of Trump's interview?

    They already have - Trump clearly “mis-remembers” what he said.....
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234

    Do you think The Sun would release the full tape of Trump's interview?

    They already have - Trump clearly “mis-remembers” what he said.....
    Fake reality.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,004

    Do you think The Sun would release the full tape of Trump's interview?

    The problem is that it was recorded at the US embassy last wednesday before he came to the UK and before he had discussed Brexit in any detail with TM

    So circumstances have changed

  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,540
    Trump just repeated his Turnburry Brexit fib - he opened it the day after, not the day before....
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941
    lol.. berating Obama for his back of the queue comment.

    As some might say... unspoofable :D
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,004

    Trump just repeated his Turnburry Brexit fib - he opened it the day after, not the day before....

    Yes he did indeed
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487

    Do you think The Sun would release the full tape of Trump's interview?

    They already have - Trump clearly “mis-remembers” what he said.....
    Fake Memory
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Trump bigging up May now.

    :D
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,540
    “I would much rather have her as my friend than my enemy”....interesting endorsement
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,004
    junius said:

    Anyone else squirming with embarrassment at Trump's responses to questions from the press ? The man is beyond parody.

    He is entertaining for sure
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234

    Do you think The Sun would release the full tape of Trump's interview?

    The problem is that it was recorded at the US embassy last wednesday before he came to the UK and before he had discussed Brexit in any detail with TM

    So circumstances have changed

    Fake circumstances. Fake embassy.
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    TGOHF said:

    Trump is absolute box office . Tremendous entertainment.

    Add in the joy he is bringing to those who get to show off in London for an afternoon and it's the event of the year.


    I imagine you would vote for him, given the chance. You views seem to align nicely with his.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 47,789

    “I would much rather have her as my friend than my enemy”....interesting endorsement

    Something for her enemies in the party to think about.
  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900

    Do you think The Sun would release the full tape of Trump's interview?

    They have. Trump lied (shocking I know).
  • FensterFenster Posts: 2,115
    I think Trump is a crazy fucker but then I thought the millionaire who bought our business was a crazy, aggressive, bull-headed, insensitive fucker until he transformed our company and put lots of money in my pocket. So I do hedge my bets with headbangers.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Anazina said:

    TGOHF said:

    Trump is absolute box office . Tremendous entertainment.

    Add in the joy he is bringing to those who get to show off in London for an afternoon and it's the event of the year.


    I imagine you would vote for him, given the chance. You views seem to align nicely with his.
    I have no real clue about his domestic economic policies - or any policies.

    But you can't deny he is an effective operator - and exciting to watch in action - the danger level is tremendous - anything could happen .
  • ralphmalphralphmalph Posts: 2,201
    You can see all the journalists laughing along with him as well.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,540
    Press conference has gone very well....let’s wait for the tweets....
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    "Ukip’s on the verge of a spectacular comeback – and it’s all thanks to Theresa May

    James Delingpole"

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/07/ukips-on-the-verge-of-a-spectacular-comeback-and-its-all-thanks-to-theresa-may/
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 3,870
    TGOHF said:

    Anazina said:

    TGOHF said:

    Trump is absolute box office . Tremendous entertainment.

    Add in the joy he is bringing to those who get to show off in London for an afternoon and it's the event of the year.


    I imagine you would vote for him, given the chance. You views seem to align nicely with his.
    I have no real clue about his domestic economic policies - or any policies.
    That is, to be fair, a fairly common trait among Trump voters.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,004
    That was an amazing press conference

    Cannot remember any like it but there is an obvious connection between Trump and May, and it is not just holding hands
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Trump calls out Merkel for being beholden to Putin re gas pipeline.

    Ouch.

  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    edited July 2018
    AndyJS said:

    "Ukip’s on the verge of a spectacular comeback – and it’s all thanks to Theresa May

    James Delingpole"

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/07/ukips-on-the-verge-of-a-spectacular-comeback-and-its-all-thanks-to-theresa-may/

    Oh please, let this be true. Brexit was never realistic possibility with UKIP splitting the nasty old racist fucktard vote.

    Though I'm not sure "me and three other Nazis joined UKIP" is much of a revelation.
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487

    TGOHF said:

    Anazina said:

    TGOHF said:

    Trump is absolute box office . Tremendous entertainment.

    Add in the joy he is bringing to those who get to show off in London for an afternoon and it's the event of the year.


    I imagine you would vote for him, given the chance. You views seem to align nicely with his.
    I have no real clue about his domestic economic policies - or any policies.
    That is, to be fair, a fairly common trait among Trump voters.
    Arf!
  • AnazinaAnazina Posts: 3,487
    TGOHF said:

    Anazina said:

    TGOHF said:

    Trump is absolute box office . Tremendous entertainment.

    Add in the joy he is bringing to those who get to show off in London for an afternoon and it's the event of the year.


    I imagine you would vote for him, given the chance. You views seem to align nicely with his.
    I have no real clue about his domestic economic policies - or any policies.

    But you can't deny he is an effective operator - and exciting to watch in action - the danger level is tremendous - anything could happen .
    The guy is a moron.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    TGOHF said:

    Anazina said:

    TGOHF said:

    Trump is absolute box office . Tremendous entertainment.

    Add in the joy he is bringing to those who get to show off in London for an afternoon and it's the event of the year.


    I imagine you would vote for him, given the chance. You views seem to align nicely with his.
    I have no real clue about his domestic economic policies - or any policies.
    That is, to be fair, a fairly common trait among Trump voters.
    And Trump...
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 50,776
    Scott_P said:

    RobD said:

    The "Highest Level of Special" Relationship?

    Trump is the highest level of special, in every sense
    To quote Terry Pratchett:

    " He was definitely a boy with special needs. In the view of the staffroom, these began with an exorcism. "
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    junius said:

    Anyone else squirming with embarrassment at Trump's responses to questions from the press ? The man is beyond parody.

    In many ways Trump is the perfect reflection of the vulgar, narcissistic and hedonistic times in which we live. Without the cult of the selfie he probably wouldn't have been elected.
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    Amateur psychiatrist time: Trump is 50% narcissistic personality disorder and 50% Alzheimers dementia.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    AndyJS said:

    "Ukip’s on the verge of a spectacular comeback – and it’s all thanks to Theresa May

    James Delingpole"

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/07/ukips-on-the-verge-of-a-spectacular-comeback-and-its-all-thanks-to-theresa-may/

    Oh please, let this be true. Brexit was never realistic possibility with UKIP splitting the nasty old racist fucktard vote.

    Though I'm not sure "me and three other Nazis joined UKIP" is much of a revelation.
    Is that you Tim ?
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486

    hello PB, first time I have commented since the days of "Tim", if anyone remembers him! I had a different moniker then, but enjoyed being the scourge of headbangers on the right and left. HYUFD and his deranged rantings at anyone without his "pure" world view have brought me back out of retirement!

    COULSON!
    LOUISE!
    HERD!
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,005
    Unrelated thought. Ought the DUP to look at the experience of the miners in dealing with the government? Getting generous concessions might look good for now......
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,901
    May has done well. What a week. She deserves a quiet night in.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 60,004
    Jonathan said:

    May has done well. What a week. She deserves a quiet night in.

    As long as she doesnt come on a walk here in North Wales !!!!
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    Why do I keep thinking there might be any level of rationality on the part of Drumpf?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    edited July 2018
    FAKKKKKKE NEEEWWWSSSS...

    https://youtu.be/q6lAvju0X3k
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    TGOHF said:

    Trump calls out Merkel for being beholden to Putin re gas pipeline.

    Ouch.

    A simple statement of fact. Germany is beholden to Russian gas.
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    Jonathan said:

    May has done well. What a week. She deserves a quiet night in.

    She has a busy weekend trying to stave off a rebellion on the trade bill and/or a vote of no confidence in her leadership of the Tory party next week.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 50,776

    FAKKKKKKE NEEEWWWSSSS...

    https://youtu.be/q6lAvju0X3k

    It's not exactly Hilary claiming to have raced across the runway under fire when she was in fact presented with flowers by small children is it?
  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256

    Amateur psychiatrist time: Trump is 50% narcissistic personality disorder and 50% Alzheimers dementia.

    I know we no long need experts, but ....

    "Gartner, a psychologist in private practice in Baltimore and New York, author of a psychobiography of Bill Clinton, and a former instructor in psychiatry at Johns Hopkins, contends that Trump “manifestly” meets the DSM-published criteria for at least three personality disorders: narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), antisocial personality disorder, and paranoid personality disorder. They are a “toxic brew” that in his view not only make Trump “dangerous” but add up to “malignant narcissism,” not a diagnosis formalized in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual but a label coined by the German-born psychologist and psychoanalyst Erich Fromm."

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/brainstorm/201701/shrinks-battle-over-diagnosing-donald-trump
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 20,901
    She may be neither strong, nor stable, but she is certainly resilient.
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    Sean_F said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Who are the 'most determined Brexiteers/Anti-May' amongst the ERG

    We can safely put Andrew Bridgen at #1 I think. Andrea Jenkyns at #2 ?

    Then we need 4 more.

    The Gov't HAS to adopt the Irish border amendment I think in particular.

    Would any of Labour's Brexit rebels vote for the trade bill?
    I think so.

    I'm not quite sure how Brexiteers voting against the Trade Bill helps to achieve Brexit..
    Ideologues gotta ideologue.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274

    Amateur psychiatrist time: Trump is 50% narcissistic personality disorder and 50% Alzheimers dementia.

    I know we no long need experts, but ....

    "Gartner, a psychologist in private practice in Baltimore and New York, author of a psychobiography of Bill Clinton, and a former instructor in psychiatry at Johns Hopkins, contends that Trump “manifestly” meets the DSM-published criteria for at least three personality disorders: narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), antisocial personality disorder, and paranoid personality disorder. They are a “toxic brew” that in his view not only make Trump “dangerous” but add up to “malignant narcissism,” not a diagnosis formalized in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual but a label coined by the German-born psychologist and psychoanalyst Erich Fromm."

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/brainstorm/201701/shrinks-battle-over-diagnosing-donald-trump
    For the record, antisocial personality disorder, is now the technical term for what used to be defined as sociopath / psychopath.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 50,776
    Jonathan said:

    She may be neither strong, nor stable, but she is certainly resilient.

    Like.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 58,941

    Amateur psychiatrist time: Trump is 50% narcissistic personality disorder and 50% Alzheimers dementia.

    I know we no long need experts, but ....

    "Gartner, a psychologist in private practice in Baltimore and New York, author of a psychobiography of Bill Clinton, and a former instructor in psychiatry at Johns Hopkins, contends that Trump “manifestly” meets the DSM-published criteria for at least three personality disorders: narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), antisocial personality disorder, and paranoid personality disorder. They are a “toxic brew” that in his view not only make Trump “dangerous” but add up to “malignant narcissism,” not a diagnosis formalized in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual but a label coined by the German-born psychologist and psychoanalyst Erich Fromm."

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/brainstorm/201701/shrinks-battle-over-diagnosing-donald-trump
    Hm, I thought diagnosis at a distance was frowned upon?
  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256

    That was an amazing press conference

    Cannot remember any like it but there is an obvious connection between Trump and May, and it is not just holding hands

    :
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    Trump actually stood at a press conference and said Boris would be a great pm - whilst standing next to May

    Wow
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,195
    Jonathan said:

    She may be neither strong, nor stable, but she is certainly resilient.

    like cockroaches?
  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,349
    At least Trump is never dull.

    And one things he's got right is his opinion of journalist. He certainly doesn't treat them with the respect they think they deserve. According to journalists, they are valiant seekers after truth. More like ''When the truth becomes legend, print the legend.''

    Trump seems bothered that the Sun only printed the eye-catching insults rather than his more-rounded critique, and totally omitted the nice things he said. He surely can't be that naïve? It's all about ratings and sales and they all have an angle - a bit like politicians.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    Floater said:

    Trump actually stood at a press conference and said Boris would be a great pm - whilst standing next to May

    Wow

    Yes but this is the man who is on the way to a NATO meeting and basically says they are all a load of awkward bastards, Putin is much better.
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    Floater said:

    Trump actually stood at a press conference and said Boris would be a great pm - whilst standing next to May

    Wow

    It is, yes, and yet this is considered a great triumph for May because he said she would be great too. This is how Trump works. Any notion of what is normal, or reasonable, completely disintegrates, and he contradicts himself so often that it is impossible to hold him to account.
  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    RobD said:

    Amateur psychiatrist time: Trump is 50% narcissistic personality disorder and 50% Alzheimers dementia.

    I know we no long need experts, but ....

    "Gartner, a psychologist in private practice in Baltimore and New York, author of a psychobiography of Bill Clinton, and a former instructor in psychiatry at Johns Hopkins, contends that Trump “manifestly” meets the DSM-published criteria for at least three personality disorders: narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), antisocial personality disorder, and paranoid personality disorder. They are a “toxic brew” that in his view not only make Trump “dangerous” but add up to “malignant narcissism,” not a diagnosis formalized in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual but a label coined by the German-born psychologist and psychoanalyst Erich Fromm."

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/brainstorm/201701/shrinks-battle-over-diagnosing-donald-trump
    Hm, I thought diagnosis at a distance was frowned upon?
    Perhaps, but can 18,000 shrinks all be wrong?
  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,349
    And another thing … I'm not sure why the BBC has a things about Guardian journalists, they're on a par with Daily Mail journalists. Opinionated and sure of themselves - also similar to politicians.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,879
    CD13 said:

    At least Trump is never dull.

    And one things he's got right is his opinion of journalist. He certainly doesn't treat them with the respect they think they deserve. According to journalists, they are valiant seekers after truth. More like ''When the truth becomes legend, print the legend.''

    Trump seems bothered that the Sun only printed the eye-catching insults rather than his more-rounded critique, and totally omitted the nice things he said. He surely can't be that naïve? It's all about ratings and sales and they all have an angle - a bit like politicians.

    The Sun put out a recording of the interview. Trump is, of course, lying. That is what he does.

    What is absolutely clear from the last two days is that he is not someone you can trust or hope to have a rational relationship with.

  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,349
    When Reagan was first elected, we thought he was totally gormless too. I wonder if he was just a better actor?
  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,349
    Mr Observer,

    "The Sun put out a recording of the interview. Trump is, of course, lying. That is what he does."

    That was the full transcript? I suspect Trump did say some less nasty things too, but that would spoil the story a little. He could be telling nothing but porkies, but I'm not sure you can rely on any newspaper to tell the total truth.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    The latest YouGov poll has UKIP on 6%, their highest rating for a long time.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#2018
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 38,879
    CD13 said:

    Mr Observer,

    "The Sun put out a recording of the interview. Trump is, of course, lying. That is what he does."

    That was the full transcript? I suspect Trump did say some less nasty things too, but that would spoil the story a little. He could be telling nothing but porkies, but I'm not sure you can rely on any newspaper to tell the total truth.

    The Sun supports Trump. Or did :-D

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