I think PB will agree that there is nothing elite about plane travel...
We're not talking plane travel we're talking PJ travel...
What's elite about private jet travel? Doesn't everyone have one?
Only peasants use airplanes. I take my private blimp.
I exclusive travel in a sedan chair carried by the oppressed. And then yacht. Sure it takes longer, but whatever I am heading to can wait until I arrive.
I have been unfairly traduced on here for admitting to keeping boxed wine on my private jet.
Boxed wine is so much more practical at bacchanalian orgies: no bottles of red to knock flying and ruin the deep shag.
One of the most bizarre deaths I read of was that of an Australian who died of alcoholic poisoning after injecting a bottle of whisky into his recturm.
Rectal fluid infusion is actually very effective in terms of absorption. Indeed it has a role in battlefield resuscitation and in major injuries, when medical aid is slow to arrive. It can ameliorate hypovolemic shock.
The opposition parties in the House are all left-leaning and all fighting each other for many of the same voters. The idea that some of them would dare allow themselves to be framed as enablers of a Tory Government by the others isn't credible (after all, the Lib Dems were indeed enablers of a Tory Government a few years ago, and look what happened to them.)
It's why May suggested she'd allow other parties to move a VoNC if Corbyn failed to do so, of course. She used the competition amongst all the left parties to be the most virulently anti-Tory to her advantage, to try to make sure he did what she wanted.
After all, can you imagine what would happen if, for whatever reason, the numbers on the Government side were reduced and Corbyn were to lose a VoNC that he would otherwise have won if all the other opposition MPs had gone through the lobby with him?
Betfair's implied probability of leaving on schedule now down to 15%.
Has a mechanism *known to have the assent of a majority of MPs* yet been found to prevent Brexit from happening automatically on March 29th? Or does this figure merely reflect a vague assumption that the Parliamentary majority against No Deal will manage to agree on a common course of action before that point?
There's a world of difference between MPs having identified a common aim and concurring on how to get there.
If people are really concerned about the financial consequences of a No Deal Brexit, at least these odds provide the opportunity of a pretty efficient insurance policy.
Do people think there's now a significant probability of the UK leaving by 29 March with an agreed deal?
I think PB will agree that there is nothing elite about plane travel...
We're not talking plane travel we're talking PJ travel...
What's elite about private jet travel? Doesn't everyone have one?
Only peasants use airplanes. I take my private blimp.
I exclusive travel in a sedan chair carried by the oppressed. And then yacht. Sure it takes longer, but whatever I am heading to can wait until I arrive.
I have been unfairly traduced on here for admitting to keeping boxed wine on my private jet.
Boxed wine is so much more practical at bacchanalian orgies: no bottles of red to knock flying and ruin the deep shag.
One of the most bizarre deaths I read of was that of an Australian who died of alcoholic poisoning after injecting a bottle of whisky into his recturm.
Rectal fluid infusion is actually very effective in terms of absorption. Indeed it has a role in battlefield resuscitation and in major injuries, when medical aid is slow to arrive. It can ameliorate hypovolemic shock.
I think PB will agree that there is nothing elite about plane travel...
We're not talking plane travel we're talking PJ travel...
What's elite about private jet travel? Doesn't everyone have one?
Only peasants use airplanes. I take my private blimp.
I exclusive travel in a sedan chair carried by the oppressed. And then yacht. Sure it takes longer, but whatever I am heading to can wait until I arrive.
I have been unfairly traduced on here for admitting to keeping boxed wine on my private jet.
Boxed wine is so much more practical at bacchanalian orgies: no bottles of red to knock flying and ruin the deep shag.
One of the most bizarre deaths I read of was that of an Australian who died of alcoholic poisoning after injecting a bottle of whisky into his recturm.
Rectal fluid infusion is actually very effective in terms of absorption. Indeed it has a role in battlefield resuscitation and in major injuries, when medical aid is slow to arrive. It can ameliorate hypovolemic shock.
This debate in Parliament is a complete waste of time. If anything demonstrates why the public has no confidence in its MPs this is it. As a matter of information can anyone please tell me whether any of the following is permitted to vote: Fiona Onasanya, Jared O Mara, Keith Vaz?
Can we just have customs union and workers rights alignment written into the WA and be done with it now?
My understanding is that the softer Brexit involving CU, SM etc (call it BINO, or LEXIT, or Norway Plus or whatever) needs no material change to the Withdrawal Treaty. All of that stuff is about the future relationship as sketched out in the Political Declaration. So given that all the EU really care about right now is that we ratify the Treaty, the 'pivot' in that direction, if it were to command a majority in parliament, would be a slam dunk to agree with the EU.
So, if it happens, great. But no! Because the Treaty will still have the Backstop, and the DUP will collapse the government if it looked like being ratified. Therefore this government, and this parliament, cannot get any negotiated Brexit through, unless a Grand Unity Coalition can be formed with a suitable leader and a working majority of sufficient size to neuter the DUP.
Given that I simply cannot see this happening, I am now a big big supporter of a general election. Which helps not a jot, because my support is utterly irrelevant. The Cons can block it (with the DUP - yes it's them again) and they will block it because (i) they want to cleave to office and (ii) unlike Labour they have no coherent Brexit policy and (iii) they do not wish to fight another election under Mrs May.
Oh betty.
I don't think that necessarily follows.
Parliament could pass a binding motion (Meaningful Vote 2, say), endorsing ratification subject to the UK signing up to a permanent CU with the EU. If so, the government couldn't deposit the instrument of ratification until agreement had been reached and documents signed on the CU(UK-EU), (pronounced Cuckoo). That should give the DUP reassurance that there'd be no 'NI backstop' phase that Brexit could get stuck in.
I think PB will agree that there is nothing elite about plane travel...
We're not talking plane travel we're talking PJ travel...
What's elite about private jet travel? Doesn't everyone have one?
Only peasants use airplanes. I take my private blimp.
I exclusive travel in a sedan chair carried by the oppressed. And then yacht. Sure it takes longer, but whatever I am heading to can wait until I arrive.
I have been unfairly traduced on here for admitting to keeping boxed wine on my private jet.
Boxed wine is so much more practical at bacchanalian orgies: no bottles of red to knock flying and ruin the deep shag.
One of the most bizarre deaths I read of was that of an Australian who died of alcoholic poisoning after injecting a bottle of whisky into his recturm.
Rectal fluid infusion is actually very effective in terms of absorption. Indeed it has a role in battlefield resuscitation and in major injuries, when medical aid is slow to arrive. It can ameliorate hypovolemic shock.
The result of today's VONC is pretty much a foregone conclusion. How different would it be - on unchanged Parliamentary arithmetic - were Ed Milliband still Leader of the Opposition?
Probably not different at all.
I am not quite so sure. The DUP - unlike the UUP - are not natural allies of the Tories and are quite left wing re- economic issues. Post 2017 election , can we be certain they would have declined the option of putting Milliband into No 10? I get the sense that the Corbyn factor has been the key to their stance.
The opposition parties in the House are all left-leaning and all fighting each other for many of the same voters. The idea that some of them would dare allow themselves to be framed as enablers of a Tory Government by the others isn't credible (after all, the Lib Dems were indeed enablers of a Tory Government a few years ago, and look what happened to them.)
It's why May suggested she'd allow other parties to move a VoNC if Corbyn failed to do so, of course. She used the competition amongst all the left parties to be the most virulently anti-Tory to her advantage, to try to make sure he did what she wanted.
After all, can you imagine what would happen if, for whatever reason, the numbers on the Government side were reduced and Corbyn were to lose a VoNC that he would otherwise have won if all the other opposition MPs had gone through the lobby with him?
Betfair's implied probability of leaving on schedule now down to 15%.
Has a mechanism *known to have the assent of a majority of MPs* yet been found to prevent Brexit from happening automatically on March 29th? Or does this figure merely reflect a vague assumption that the Parliamentary majority against No Deal will manage to agree on a common course of action before that point?
There's a world of difference between MPs having identified a common aim and concurring on how to get there.
If people are really concerned about the financial consequences of a No Deal Brexit, at least these odds provide the opportunity of a pretty efficient insurance policy.
Do people think there's now a significant probability of the UK leaving by 29 March with an agreed deal?
This debate in Parliament is a complete waste of time. If anything demonstrates why the public has no confidence in its MPs this is it. As a matter of information can anyone please tell me whether any of the following is permitted to vote: Fiona Onasanya, Jared O Mara, Keith Vaz?
"I have been touched by how many MPs have begged me to vote for Theresa May tonight and prevent a general election. And some were even on the government side!"
I think PB will agree that there is nothing elite about plane travel...
We're not talking plane travel we're talking PJ travel...
What's elite about private jet travel? Doesn't everyone have one?
Only peasants use airplanes. I take my private blimp.
I exclusive travel in a sedan chair carried by the oppressed. And then yacht. Sure it takes longer, but whatever I am heading to can wait until I arrive.
I have been unfairly traduced on here for admitting to keeping boxed wine on my private jet.
Boxed wine is so much more practical at bacchanalian orgies: no bottles of red to knock flying and ruin the deep shag.
One of the most bizarre deaths I read of was that of an Australian who died of alcoholic poisoning after injecting a bottle of whisky into his recturm.
Rectal fluid infusion is actually very effective in terms of absorption. Indeed it has a role in battlefield resuscitation and in major injuries, when medical aid is slow to arrive. It can ameliorate hypovolemic shock.
I suspect the absorption of alcohol in whisky would be equally effective.
Mayan priests ingested pulque (fermented agave juice) rectally to prepare for religious rituals. Bet you always wanted to know that.
I did. I want to know who first suggested it as a rite and how they convinced others to do it.
If anyone asked "Who's dumb idea was this?" the answer would have been "The gods" and that would have been that.
But that doesn't answer why they did it in the first place, and as the countless religions of the world demonstrate, 'God wants it this way' does not stop people disagreeing.
"I have been touched by how many MPs have begged me to vote for Theresa May tonight and prevent a general election. And some were even on the government side!"
Lets take a look at Cameron's big ideas see how they're going
* Brexit referendum
shit
* Universal Credit
shit
* NHS reform
shit
* Eliminating the deficit
shit
Eliminating the Deficit is the root cause of all the other policy failures:-
Austerity meant there wasn't money to finance NHS reform, made Universal Credit an impossible task and made the referendum result a certainty...
It also means that Osbourne is as much to blame as Cameron is...
And don't forget Project Fear. Making the Remain campaign all about negatives, rather than trying to convey a positive message about Britain's place in the EU, not only helped to lose the referendum. The failure of almost all the various calamities predicted for the immediate aftermath of a Leave vote to come to pass also means that all subsequent warnings about the horrors of No Deal have had little effect.
In fact, due to confirmation bias, they've simply helped to intensify divisions within both the commentariat and the wider electorate. Every fresh warning causes many confirmed Remainers to wet, whereas many confirmed Leavers offer rebuttals and laugh.
This debate in Parliament is a complete waste of time. If anything demonstrates why the public has no confidence in its MPs this is it. As a matter of information can anyone please tell me whether any of the following is permitted to vote: Fiona Onasanya, Jared O Mara, Keith Vaz?
Yes all three will be voting. Fiona Onasanya voted last night as I'm sure did Jared and Jim the washing machine salesman...
Today's VoNC is pointless self-indulgence. I cannot conceive of a single Conservative walking into anything other than the "No" lobby any more than I can imagine a single Labour MP walking into anything other than the "Aye" lobby. May will win cosily and comfortably enough thanks to the DUP.
This is harsh IMO. It is in the national interest to attempt to force the only thing that has at least a reasonable chance of breaking the Brexit impasse quite quickly - a general election - and a VONC is the only route available to JC to do that. Has to try.
The DUP on the other hand, blocking the government's flagship Brexit policy and at the same time blocking the replacement of the government, so that nobody else gets a crack at it, I'm sure there's a suitable before-the-watershed word for that. Let me think - disappointing?
Parliament could pass a binding motion (Meaningful Vote 2, say), endorsing ratification subject to the UK signing up to a permanent CU with the EU. If so, the government couldn't deposit the instrument of ratification until agreement had been reached and documents signed on the CU(UK-EU), (pronounced Cuckoo). That should give the DUP reassurance that there'd be no 'NI backstop' phase that Brexit could get stuck in.
Ah ok, thanks for info.
In that case maybe the softer brexit is a genuine live outsider - albeit that the politics of this parliament seems stacked against.
I expect that minister not to be reselected by his constituency association...
rumours of Greg Clarke
He perhaps is putting his country before career and party. That would be novel wouldn't it? He has a degree in economics, so he perhaps doesn't agree that a hard brexit will be fine. Boris, by perfect contrast has a degree in....?
I think PB will agree that there is nothing elite about plane travel...
We're not talking plane travel we're talking PJ travel...
What's elite about private jet travel? Doesn't everyone have one?
Only peasants use airplanes. I take my private blimp.
I exclusive travel in a sedan chair carried by the oppressed. And then yacht. Sure it takes longer, but whatever I am heading to can wait until I arrive.
The opposition parties in the House are all left-leaning and all fighting each other for many of the same voters. The idea that some of them would dare allow themselves to be framed as enablers of a Tory Government by the others isn't credible (after all, the Lib Dems were indeed enablers of a Tory Government a few years ago, and look what happened to them.)
It's why May suggested she'd allow other parties to move a VoNC if Corbyn failed to do so, of course. She used the competition amongst all the left parties to be the most virulently anti-Tory to her advantage, to try to make sure he did what she wanted.
After all, can you imagine what would happen if, for whatever reason, the numbers on the Government side were reduced and Corbyn were to lose a VoNC that he would otherwise have won if all the other opposition MPs had gone through the lobby with him?
Betfair's implied probability of leaving on schedule now down to 15%.
Has a mechanism *known to have the assent of a majority of MPs* yet been found to prevent Brexit from happening automatically on March 29th? Or does this figure merely reflect a vague assumption that the Parliamentary majority against No Deal will manage to agree on a common course of action before that point?
There's a world of difference between MPs having identified a common aim and concurring on how to get there.
If people are really concerned about the financial consequences of a No Deal Brexit, at least these odds provide the opportunity of a pretty efficient insurance policy.
I think PB will agree that there is nothing elite about plane travel...
We're not talking plane travel we're talking PJ travel...
What's elite about private jet travel? Doesn't everyone have one?
Only peasants use airplanes. I take my private blimp.
I exclusive travel in a sedan chair carried by the oppressed. And then yacht. Sure it takes longer, but whatever I am heading to can wait until I arrive.
I have been unfairly traduced on here for admitting to keeping boxed wine on my private jet.
Boxed wine is so much more practical at bacchanalian orgies: no bottles of red to knock flying and ruin the deep shag.
One of the most bizarre deaths I read of was that of an Australian who died of alcoholic poisoning after injecting a bottle of whisky into his recturm.
Rectal fluid infusion is actually very effective in terms of absorption. Indeed it has a role in battlefield resuscitation and in major injuries, when medical aid is slow to arrive. It can ameliorate hypovolemic shock.
I suspect the absorption of alcohol in whisky would be equally effective.
Mayan priests ingested pulque (fermented agave juice) rectally to prepare for religious rituals. Bet you always wanted to know that.
I did. I want to know who first suggested it as a rite and how they convinced others to do it.
If anyone asked "Who's dumb idea was this?" the answer would have been "The gods" and that would have been that.
But that doesn't answer why they did it in the first place, and as the countless religions of the world demonstrate, 'God wants it this way' does not stop people disagreeing.
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But in what sense would he have done better IYO - avoided the Irish backstop in the withdrawal treaty, or just sold it better to parliament?
Ozzie is all aboard the Norway+ hype train.
Parliament could pass a binding motion (Meaningful Vote 2, say), endorsing ratification subject to the UK signing up to a permanent CU with the EU. If so, the government couldn't deposit the instrument of ratification until agreement had been reached and documents signed on the CU(UK-EU), (pronounced Cuckoo). That should give the DUP reassurance that there'd be no 'NI backstop' phase that Brexit could get stuck in.
UUP=Tories.
I think No Deal has value*.
*From a betting perspective, not an economic one!
TICK
"I have been touched by how many MPs have begged me to vote for Theresa May tonight and prevent a general election. And some were even on the government side!"
Cheeky.
Cameron's ducking and diving.
In fact, due to confirmation bias, they've simply helped to intensify divisions within both the commentariat and the wider electorate. Every fresh warning causes many confirmed Remainers to wet, whereas many confirmed Leavers offer rebuttals and laugh.
Mr. Rook, aye. The overblown omens of doom meant more measured, and plausible, warnings were then seen through a discredited prism.
Second on offer….
The DUP on the other hand, blocking the government's flagship Brexit policy and at the same time blocking the replacement of the government, so that nobody else gets a crack at it, I'm sure there's a suitable before-the-watershed word for that. Let me think - disappointing?
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In that case maybe the softer brexit is a genuine live outsider - albeit that the politics of this parliament seems stacked against.
How long before ERG jump on that
I move the Earth.