Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
“The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”
Uh oh.
From this I'm not sure what Nadler means, but I think Mueller's brief was the limited one of looking for possible collaboration with Russia to influence the election, and nothing else---correct me please if I err---so leaving much scope for other law-breaking.
“The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”
Uh oh.
From this I'm not sure what Nadler means here, but I think Mueller's brief was the limited one of looking for possible collaboration with Russia to influence the election, and nothing else---correct me please if I err---so leaving much scope for other law-breaking.
It just finds he committed no crime in relation to the brief. Unless they have evidence otherwise?
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
US attorney general William Barr has handed a summary of the special counsel’s report on Russian interference in the 2016 election to members of Congress, revealing that Mueller found no “Trump campaign official or associate conspired or knowingly co-ordinated” with Russian operatives during the 2016 campaign.
Benpointer said: show previous quotes Yes, well, I think it highly likely now that we will be participating in the EU elections.
Could be interesting if the #PeoplesVote organisation flex their muscles in any UK EU elections; no party won 5 million votes in the last election.
What are the odds of the UK participating in Euro elections ? Is there a Market up for that?
Even if they are held I'm not sure there is a People's Vote party that is eligible to stand. The Brexit Party would stand and would be likely to be very successful. The split of the pro-remain vote will cost them dearly in the De Hondt system.
Indeed. My thinking was not that they would stand but rather promote any parties who propose a 2nd referendum. Labour would come under intense pressure to include such a commitment in their manifesto.
Re "the split of the pro-remain vote will cost them dearly in the De Hondt system" won't that affect the pro-leave (anti-2ndref) vote too?
“The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”
Uh oh.
From this I'm not sure what Nadler means, but I think Mueller's brief was the limited one of looking for possible collaboration with Russia to influence the election, and nothing else---correct me please if I err---so leaving much scope for other law-breaking.
This is on the basis of the text in Barr's letter to Congress. Worth noting they do not have the full report, and that Mueller has handed lots of stuff off to state prosecutors e.g. SDNY to continue investigations on other 'issues'.
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
“The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”
Uh oh.
From this I'm not sure what Nadler means, but I think Mueller's brief was the limited one of looking for possible collaboration with Russia to influence the election, and nothing else---correct me please if I err---so leaving much scope for other law-breaking.
This is on the basis of the text in Barr's letter to Congress. Worth noting they do not have the full report, and that Mueller has handed lots of stuff off to state prosecutors e.g. SDNY to continue investigations on other 'issues'.
I wouldn't be in the least surprised if we find more attempts of "self enrichment" have been discovered.
As we were working through the papers for parish council elections at one table in the pub last night the next table were some visitors from London no doubt staying the weekend in the country. Don't think they had met anyone who voted Brexit before.
That's just lazy thinking which affects some on here. Newham only voted REMAIN 53-47 so there are plenty of LEAVE voters in London just as there are plenty of REMAIN voters out there in the rest of England.
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Sounds distressing but not somthing to concern the public.
'I slapped him because I felt threatened'; I'm not sure this is a good justification. I've heard similar reasons given for carrying knives and other weapons.
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Sat on it for 6 years, she must have been bursting to share it!
Massive non-story there. A little bit of mischief making at most - you'd almost think some were scared of Moran winning the LD leadership election. To be fair though it will be small potatoes compared to the Conservative leadership race.
“The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”
Uh oh.
From this I'm not sure what Nadler means, but I think Mueller's brief was the limited one of looking for possible collaboration with Russia to influence the election, and nothing else---correct me please if I err---so leaving much scope for other law-breaking.
This is on the basis of the text in Barr's letter to Congress. Worth noting they do not have the full report, and that Mueller has handed lots of stuff off to state prosecutors e.g. SDNY to continue investigations on other 'issues'.
I wouldn't be in the least surprised if we find more attempts of "self enrichment" have been discovered.
From what I've read, the SDNY are covering potential financial wrongdoings (e.g. the activities of the Foundation), and worth remembering presidential pardons only cover federal offences, so could be much more fun ahead.
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Sat on it for 6 years, she must have been bursting to share it!
Massive non-story there. A little bit of mischief making at most - you'd almost think some were scared of Moran winning the LD leadership election. To be fair though it will be small potatoes compared to the Conservative leadership race.
Doesn't bother me at all, but in todays world of equal rights etc, you have to wonder how it would be received had it been a man admitting to slapping a female partner, and why it should be any different
“The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”
Uh oh.
From this I'm not sure what Nadler means, but I think Mueller's brief was the limited one of looking for possible collaboration with Russia to influence the election, and nothing else---correct me please if I err---so leaving much scope for other law-breaking.
This is on the basis of the text in Barr's letter to Congress. Worth noting they do not have the full report, and that Mueller has handed lots of stuff off to state prosecutors e.g. SDNY to continue investigations on other 'issues'.
I wouldn't be in the least surprised if we find more attempts of "self enrichment" have been discovered.
From what I've read, the SDNY are covering potential financial wrongdoings (e.g. the activities of the Foundation), and worth remembering presidential pardons only cover federal offences, so could be much more fun ahead.
I think because it has been built up to such a huge degree, it would have to be really bad to dent trump now.
Genuine question; if the date on the article 50 legislation can be changed by SI, what else can be changed in this way?
I’m not sure how general your question is but in my view it is a huge issue. The EU Withdrawal Act gives Ministers broad delegated powers under SI’s to amend and repeal primary legislation. The argument is that there is so much to unpick after 45 years that there is no time to repeal and amend everything through primary legislation. It may not be practical but I would like these Henry VIII powers to be abolished or at least severely limited in all cases. It is not just this Act but the huge scope of EU law that has built up over 45 years makes it the worst culprit. Brexit has resulted in this unholy power grab by the Executive and I think some of what we are seeing is a reaction by the Legislature.
It is one of the main reasons why, although I think Brexit was possible, it was not possible in the time given. The appropriate legislation should have been proposed and passed, with suspended implementation pending the outcome, and a set of proposals formulated and published, before A50 was triggered. It was at least a 5 and maybe 10 year process end to end IMHO but Brexiteers were not prepared to wait that long.
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Sounds distressing but not somthing to concern the public.
'I slapped him because I felt threatened'; I'm not sure this is a good justification. I've heard similar reasons given for carrying knives and other weapons.
Genuine question; if the date on the article 50 legislation can be changed by SI, what else can be changed in this way?
I’m not sure how general your question is but in my view it is a huge issue. The EU Withdrawal Act gives Ministers broad delegated powers under SI’s to amend and repeal primary legislation. The argument is that there is so much to unpick after 45 years that there is no time to repeal and amend everything through primary legislation. It may not be practical but I would like these Henry VIII powers to be abolished or at least severely limited in all cases. It is not just this Act but the huge scope of EU law that has built up over 45 years makes it the worst culprit. Brexit has resulted in this unholy power grab by the Executive and I think some of what we are seeing is a reaction by the Legislature.
It is one of the main reasons why, although I think Brexit was possible, it was not possible in the time given. The appropriate legislation should have been proposed and passed, with suspended implementation pending the outcome, and a set of proposals formulated and published, before A50 was triggered. It was at least a 5 and maybe 10 year process end to end IMHO but Brexiteers were not prepared to wait that long.
Thank you. My question was probably less broad; could an SI be used to change anything else on the A50 legislation, might have been better wording.
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Sounds distressing but not somthing to concern the public.
'I slapped him because I felt threatened'; I'm not sure this is a good justification. I've heard similar reasons given for carrying knives and other weapons.
Slap versus 'knives and other weapons'
Hmmm...
Non-story imo.
You're probably right, but caveat emptor for anyone in that betting market I think.
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Sat on it for 6 years, she must have been bursting to share it!
Massive non-story there. A little bit of mischief making at most - you'd almost think some were scared of Moran winning the LD leadership election. To be fair though it will be small potatoes compared to the Conservative leadership race.
Oh yes of course domestic violence doesn't count if you are a LD and female. Got it.
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Sat on it for 6 years, she must have been bursting to share it!
Massive non-story there. A little bit of mischief making at most - you'd almost think some were scared of Moran winning the LD leadership election. To be fair though it will be small potatoes compared to the Conservative leadership race.
Doesn't bother me at all, but in todays world of equal rights etc, you have to wonder how it would be received had it been a man admitting to slapping a female partner, and why it should be any different
It would depend on context and physical capability. Was Layla right to feel physically threatened by her Ex? If so then it is self defence (not sure what Scottish Law says on this).
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Sounds distressing but not somthing to concern the public.
'I slapped him because I felt threatened'; I'm not sure this is a good justification. I've heard similar reasons given for carrying knives and other weapons.
Slap versus 'knives and other weapons'
Hmmm...
Non-story imo.
You're probably right, but caveat emptor for anyone in that betting market I think.
Fair point. And as stated up-thread (or is that down-thread?) releasing this after 6 years on the People's March day takes the gloss off the 'brave for being honest' aspect.
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
I remember when Lib Dem leadership candidates were exposed for [moderating] all over male prostitutes or ringing up gay chat lines.
I miss the good old days.
It isn't much when compared to someone like Jeremy Thorpe. However, if you're positioning yourself as a right-on candidate for leadership, it looks poor and shows poor impulse control.
As a woman, I do wonder if a male MP would get away with releasing a little Twitter statement, and hoping it dies down. Compare and contrast with, say, the unpleasant Jared O'Mara.
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Sat on it for 6 years, she must have been bursting to share it!
Massive non-story there. A little bit of mischief making at most - you'd almost think some were scared of Moran winning the LD leadership election. To be fair though it will be small potatoes compared to the Conservative leadership race.
Doesn't bother me at all, but in todays world of equal rights etc, you have to wonder how it would be received had it been a man admitting to slapping a female partner, and why it should be any different
It would depend on context and physical capability. Was Layla right to feel physically threatened by her Ex? If so then it is self defence (not sure what Scottish Law says on this).
I reckon she had him down on his knees, begging her darling please to stop
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
What do PBrs make of the claim on brexitcentral that paragraph 89 of the political declaration obliges the police to arrest people deemed to have committed ‘political offences’ – a kind of crime not known in our law. Remember, the EU’s Attorney-General has said that “Criticism of the EU is akin to blasphemy.”
Here’s the text:
89. The Parties should establish effective arrangements based on streamlined procedures and time limits enabling the United Kingdom and Member States to surrender suspected and convicted persons efficiently and expeditiously, with the possibilities to waive the requirement of double criminality, and to determine the applicability of these arrangements to own nationals and for political offences.
I’d read that as the UK being free to determine there is zero applicability?
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Sat on it for 6 years, she must have been bursting to share it!
Massive non-story there. A little bit of mischief making at most - you'd almost think some were scared of Moran winning the LD leadership election. To be fair though it will be small potatoes compared to the Conservative leadership race.
Swap the genders, Stodge and then look at the story. Domestic abuse needs to be tackled on both sides of the gender divide and your casual attitude to spousal abuse is somewhat surprising.
CNN aren't willing to accept this report and opening speculating on what nudge nudge wink wink stuff has gone on. They are in dangerous birther type territory.
Can they not see they are actually helping trump by doing this as it plays into his fake news schtick.
Some concerning details in the WA that give the EU a say over our tax laws. Looks like TM has really sold us down the river with her agreement . It’s a shit sandwich
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Sounds distressing but not somthing to concern the public.
If someone is standing for Office and they admit something like this it most certainly should be out in the open
I remember listening to a talk by the late Diana Lamplugh, Suzie's mother, some years ago when she said that many men were subject to the same problems faced by women but so few of them reported it
Genuine question; if the date on the article 50 legislation can be changed by SI, what else can be changed in this way?
I’m not sure how general your question is but in my view it is a huge issue. The EU Withdrawal Act gives Ministers broad delegated powers under SI’s to amend and repeal primary legislation. The argument is that there is so much to unpick after 45 years that there is no time to repeal and amend everything through primary legislation. It may not be practical but I would like these Henry VIII powers to be abolished or at least severely limited in all cases. It is not just this Act but the huge scope of EU law that has built up over 45 years makes it the worst culprit. Brexit has resulted in this unholy power grab by the Executive and I think some of what we are seeing is a reaction by the Legislature.
It is one of the main reasons why, although I think Brexit was possible, it was not possible in the time given. The appropriate legislation should have been proposed and passed, with suspended implementation pending the outcome, and a set of proposals formulated and published, before A50 was triggered. It was at least a 5 and maybe 10 year process end to end IMHO but Brexiteers were not prepared to wait that long.
Thank you. My question was probably less broad; could an SI be used to change anything else on the A50 legislation, might have been better wording.
The answer is yes. Just about anything. Do read section 8 at your pleasure -
Genuine question; if the date on the article 50 legislation can be changed by SI, what else can be changed in this way?
I’m not sure how general your question is but in my view it is a huge issue. The EU Withdrawal Act gives Ministers broad delegated powers under SI’s to amend and repeal primary legislation. The argument is that there is so much to unpick after 45 years that there is no time to repeal and amend everything through primary legislation. It may not be practical but I would like these Henry VIII powers to be abolished or at least severely limited in all cases. It is not just this Act but the huge scope of EU law that has built up over 45 years makes it the worst culprit. Brexit has resulted in this unholy power grab by the Executive and I think some of what we are seeing is a reaction by the Legislature.
It is one of the main reasons why, although I think Brexit was possible, it was not possible in the time given. The appropriate legislation should have been proposed and passed, with suspended implementation pending the outcome, and a set of proposals formulated and published, before A50 was triggered. It was at least a 5 and maybe 10 year process end to end IMHO but Brexiteers were not prepared to wait that long.
Thank you. My question was probably less broad; could an SI be used to change anything else on the A50 legislation, might have been better wording.
The answer is yes. Just about anything. Do read section 8 at your pleasure -
Benpointer said: show previous quotes Yes, well, I think it highly likely now that we will be participating in the EU elections.
Could be interesting if the #PeoplesVote organisation flex their muscles in any UK EU elections; no party won 5 million votes in the last election.
What are the odds of the UK participating in Euro elections ? Is there a Market up for that?
Even if they are held I'm not sure there is a People's Vote party that is eligible to stand. The Brexit Party would stand and would be likely to be very successful. The split of the pro-remain vote will cost them dearly in the De Hondt system.
Indeed. My thinking was not that they would stand but rather promote any parties who propose a 2nd referendum. Labour would come under intense pressure to include such a commitment in their manifesto.
Re "the split of the pro-remain vote will cost them dearly in the De Hondt system" won't that affect the pro-leave (anti-2ndref) vote too?
If we've had a long extension and are therefore having EU elections, it should be on the grounds that either we've committed to a new referendum, or we're negotiating an entire new Deal, or a new General Election has happened or is about to happen, all of which will overwhelm the Euro elections.
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
I remember when Lib Dem leadership candidates were exposed for [moderating] all over male prostitutes or ringing up gay chat lines.
I miss the good old days.
It isn't much when compared to someone like Jeremy Thorpe. However, if you're positioning yourself as a right-on candidate for leadership, it looks poor and shows poor impulse control.
As a woman, I do wonder if a male MP would get away with releasing a little Twitter statement, and hoping it dies down. Compare and contrast with, say, the unpleasant Jared O'Mara.
Does anyone know : if we sign up to the Boles Common Market 2.0 can we unilaterally exit from it later on as opposed to TM deal where we are tied in with EU
Genuine question; if the date on the article 50 legislation can be changed by SI, what else can be changed in this way?
I’m not sure how general your question is but in my view it is a huge issue. The EU Withdrawal Act gives Ministers broad delegated powers under SI’s to amend and repeal primary legislation. The argument is that there is so much to unpick after 45 years that there is no time to repeal and amend everything through primary legislation. It may not be practical but I would like these Henry VIII powers to be abolished or at least severely limited in all cases. It is not just this Act but the huge scope of EU law that has built up over 45 years makes it the worst culprit. Brexit has resulted in this unholy power grab by the Executive and I think some of what we are seeing is a reaction by the Legislature.
It is one of the main reasons why, although I think Brexit was possible, it was not possible in the time given. The appropriate legislation should have been proposed and passed, with suspended implementation pending the outcome, and a set of proposals formulated and published, before A50 was triggered. It was at least a 5 and maybe 10 year process end to end IMHO but Brexiteers were not prepared to wait that long.
Thank you. My question was probably less broad; could an SI be used to change anything else on the A50 legislation, might have been better wording.
The answer is yes. Just about anything. Do read section 8 at your pleasure -
Genuine question; if the date on the article 50 legislation can be changed by SI, what else can be changed in this way?
I’m not sure how general your question is but in my view it is a huge issue. The EU Withdrawal Act gives Ministers broad delegated powers under SI’s to amend and repeal primary legislation. The argument is that there is so much to unpick after 45 years that there is no time to repeal and amend everything through primary legislation. It may not be practical but I would like these Henry VIII powers to be abolished or at least severely limited in all cases. It is not just this Act but the huge scope of EU law that has built up over 45 years makes it the worst culprit. Brexit has resulted in this unholy power grab by the Executive and I think some of what we are seeing is a reaction by the Legislature.
It is one of the main reasons why, although I think Brexit was possible, it was not possible in the time given. The appropriate legislation should have been proposed and passed, with suspended implementation pending the outcome, and a set of proposals formulated and published, before A50 was triggered. It was at least a 5 and maybe 10 year process end to end IMHO but Brexiteers were not prepared to wait that long.
Thank you. My question was probably less broad; could an SI be used to change anything else on the A50 legislation, might have been better wording.
The answer is yes. Just about anything. Do read section 8 at your pleasure -
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
As we were working through the papers for parish council elections at one table in the pub last night the next table were some visitors from London no doubt staying the weekend in the country. Don't think they had met anyone who voted Brexit before.
That's just lazy thinking which affects some on here. Newham only voted REMAIN 53-47 so there are plenty of LEAVE voters in London just as there are plenty of REMAIN voters out there in the rest of England.
Anyone who has taken a taxi in London most probably has met a Leave voter.
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Sounds distressing but not somthing to concern the public.
'I slapped him because I felt threatened'; I'm not sure this is a good justification. I've heard similar reasons given for carrying knives and other weapons.
I have no dog in the LibDems leadership fight. But her explanation is hardly convincing. Most people will think "No, you slapped him because you lost it".
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
The Democrats would be well-advised to let thoughts of impeachment drop. Robert Mueller’s thoroughness is well-established. They should accept his conclusions.
According to Barr's letter, Mueller's team found two main Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US election, both by Russian groups and the Russian government:
"Attempts by a Russian organisation, the Internet Research Agency, to conduct disinformation and social media operations in the United States designed to sow social discord, eventually with the aim of interfering with the election."
"Russian government's efforts to conduct computer hacking operations designed to gather and disseminate information to influence the election...Russian government actors successfully hacked into computers and obtained emails from persons affiliated with the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party organisations and publicly disseminated those materials through various intermediaries, including WikiLeaks."
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Sounds distressing but not somthing to concern the public.
'I slapped him because I felt threatened'; I'm not sure this is a good justification. I've heard similar reasons given for carrying knives and other weapons.
The Democrats would be well-advised to let thoughts of impeachment drop. Robert Mueller’s thoroughness is well-established. They should accept his conclusions.
Given there are so many other things to attack trump on plus who knows what else he might have done wrong....watching CNN they are in birther territory talking about this report.
No one should be slapping, or physically attacking anyone else under any circumstances, out with the sporting arena. Slapping because you feel threatened is a poor excuse. I felt under threat of physical violence, so I used physical violence to de-escalate. Would not be acceptable in any workplace. Instant dismissal. Should not be in a domestic setting either. Shows poor self control, at the very least.
The Democrats would be well-advised to let thoughts of impeachment drop. Robert Mueller’s thoroughness is well-established. They should accept his conclusions.
They won’t though. The shouty element of their base appears to see impeachment as an article of faith.
The Democrats would be well-advised to let thoughts of impeachment drop. Robert Mueller’s thoroughness is well-established. They should accept his conclusions.
They should, but they won't. They've all got Trump derangement syndrome and can't let go. Trump is going to ride this wave until 2020.
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
No one should be slapping, or physically attacking anyone else under any circumstances, out with the sporting arena. Slapping because you feel threatened is a poor excuse. I felt under threat of physical violence, so I used physical violence to de-escalate. Would not be acceptable in any workplace. Instant dismissal. Should not be in a domestic setting either. Shows poor self control, at the very least.
The Democrats would be well-advised to let thoughts of impeachment drop. Robert Mueller’s thoroughness is well-established. They should accept his conclusions.
They should, but they won't. They've all got Trump derangement syndrome and can't let go. Trump is going to ride this wave until 2020.
Beto yesterday...
Democratic presidential hopeful Beto O’Rourke has said he thinks it is “beyond the shadow of a doubt” that President Trump colluded with Russia for the 2016 election.
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
I remember when Lib Dem leadership candidates were exposed for [moderating] all over male prostitutes or ringing up gay chat lines.
I miss the good old days.
Physical violence v consensual chat lines. Which is worse?
The police investigated it and said she did nothing wrong, her ex corroborated her events.
But you appear to know better.
It is the image that this leaves.
I am not interested in the lib dems leadership but I do not think this is a helpful intervention
I'm old fashioned enough to think that 'girl slaps bloke' isn't a story but 'bloke slaps girl' is. However she needs to get this bit of rubbish out before someone else does.
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
I remember when Lib Dem leadership candidates were exposed for [moderating] all over male prostitutes or ringing up gay chat lines.
I miss the good old days.
Physical violence v consensual chat lines. Which is worse?
The police investigated it and said she did nothing wrong, her ex corroborated her events.
But you appear to know better.
It is the image that this leaves.
I am not interested in the lib dems leadership but I do not think this is a helpful intervention
Really . It’s not like she beat him to a pulp . And a slap it’s not like she punched him . Of course if it had been a man slapping his wife it would be different . But I like Layla Moran and this shouldn’t harm her chances . Indeed this could play well for her , she’s tough and doesn’t take any crap .
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
I remember when Lib Dem leadership candidates were exposed for [moderating] all over male prostitutes or ringing up gay chat lines.
I miss the good old days.
Physical violence v consensual chat lines. Which is worse?
The police investigated it and said she did nothing wrong, her ex corroborated her events.
But you appear to know better.
It is the image that this leaves.
I am not interested in the lib dems leadership but I do not think this is a helpful intervention
Really . It’s not like she beat him to a pulp . And a slap it’s not like she punched him . Of course if it had been a man slapping his wife it would be different . But I like Layla Moran and this shouldn’t harm her chances . Indeed this could play well for her , she’s tough and doesn’t take any crap .
So if you like her she gets a pass for slapping a man but, what if he had slapped her
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Birmingham Ladywood 64.4% Remain and only 9% signed
Central Devon is the highest Leave constituency (50.9% & 14%) Bradford West is the lowest Remain (53.5% & 5%)
Irish, Scottish and Welsh Remain seats seem to be least interested
Remain seats with large ethnic minority populations, like Bradford West, Harrow East and Edmonton, have not been signing the petition with the enthusiasm one might have expected. Conversely, seats that narrowly voted Leave with very middle-class profiles, like Chichester, Wealden and Devon Central, have been signing it in surprisingly large numbers. The simple conclusion may be that middle-class people are a lot more likely to go to the trouble of signing a petition like this.
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
Has this been shared already on here? Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
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https://twitter.com/peston/status/1109902703411507203?s=21
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure
https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09
US attorney general William Barr has handed a summary of the special counsel’s report on Russian interference in the 2016 election to members of Congress, revealing that Mueller found no “Trump campaign official or associate conspired or knowingly co-ordinated” with Russian operatives during the 2016 campaign.
That is quite surprising finding that nobody did.
Re "the split of the pro-remain vote will cost them dearly in the De Hondt system" won't that affect the pro-leave (anti-2ndref) vote too?
It is one of the main reasons why, although I think Brexit was possible, it was not possible in the time given. The appropriate legislation should have been proposed and passed, with suspended implementation pending the outcome, and a set of proposals formulated and published, before A50 was triggered. It was at least a 5 and maybe 10 year process end to end IMHO but Brexiteers were not prepared to wait that long.
I remember when Lib Dem leadership candidates were exposed for [moderating] all over male prostitutes or ringing up gay chat lines.
I miss the good old days.
Hmmm...
Non-story imo.
However, I expect she will be and that it will harm her chances.
As a woman, I do wonder if a male MP would get away with releasing a little Twitter statement, and hoping it dies down. Compare and contrast with, say, the unpleasant Jared O'Mara.
89. The Parties should establish effective arrangements based on streamlined procedures and time limits enabling the United Kingdom and Member States to surrender suspected and convicted persons efficiently and expeditiously, with the possibilities to waive the requirement of double criminality, and to determine the applicability of these arrangements to own nationals and for political offences.
I’d read that as the UK being free to determine there is zero applicability?
Can they not see they are actually helping trump by doing this as it plays into his fake news schtick.
Some concerning details in the WA that give the EU a say over our tax laws. Looks like TM has really sold us down the river with her agreement . It’s a shit sandwich
I remember listening to a talk by the late Diana Lamplugh, Suzie's mother, some years ago when she said that many men were subject to the same problems faced by women but so few of them reported it
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2018/16/section/8/enacted
... and now Slapgate??
Scandals ain't wot they used t'be.
Birmingham Ladywood 64.4% Remain and only 9% signed
Central Devon is the highest Leave constituency (50.9% & 14%)
Bradford West is the lowest Remain (53.5% & 5%)
Irish, Scottish and Welsh Remain seats seem to be least interested
But you appear to know better.
"Attempts by a Russian organisation, the Internet Research Agency, to conduct disinformation and social media operations in the United States designed to sow social discord, eventually with the aim of interfering with the election."
"Russian government's efforts to conduct computer hacking operations designed to gather and disseminate information to influence the election...Russian government actors successfully hacked into computers and obtained emails from persons affiliated with the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party organisations and publicly disseminated those materials through various intermediaries, including WikiLeaks."
Tough woman standing up for herself . Go Layla !
Slapping because you feel threatened is a poor excuse.
I felt under threat of physical violence, so I used physical violence to de-escalate. Would not be acceptable in any workplace. Instant dismissal.
Should not be in a domestic setting either.
Shows poor self control, at the very least.
https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1109900150858752000
I am not interested in the lib dems leadership but I do not think this is a helpful intervention
Democratic presidential hopeful Beto O’Rourke has said he thinks it is “beyond the shadow of a doubt” that President Trump colluded with Russia for the 2016 election.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RCtX03pT8Wc
Edit - Ian Lavery springs to mind as another example.
If only the ERG had not prematurely pressed the button a few days before the MV was rejected....
Excellent article @viewcode. Thanks.