It will still be in the top three biggest public attendance events ever in the UK, and probably the second after the Stop the Iraq War march of 2003.
The point they are making in that article is that numbers are always overestimated.
The Countryside Alliance got some pretty big crowds at their various demonstrations during the Blair premiership.
The official police numbers for the 2002 CA march was 400,000. Made not a blind bit of difference of course. I was on that one.
I think the CA number is pretty solid because they gathered all the attendees in Hyde Park in one place making them easy to count. I assume that was deliberate. These rustic types not being wise to the wiles of city folk who let everyone mill around everywhere and then just claim the biggest number they can say with a straight face.
The irony of that post is just delicious - and I am assuming was deliberate.
The Countryside Alliance march? Was that the one when all the bumpkins came to London to thank them for subsidising their lifestyle so heavily?
I went on that march, just for the lolz
What amazed me was the physical beauty of the girls (and boys, to be fair). Posh country English folk have very lovely daughters (with excellent teeth, and lovely honey blonde or russet red hair). It was like a parade of the best of Hitler Youth, only they were obsessed with killing foxes not Jews.
It will still be in the top three biggest public attendance events ever in the UK, and probably the second after the Stop the Iraq War march of 2003.
The point they are making in that article is that numbers are always overestimated.
At the risk of setting you know who off, I think that figure is an underestimate of participation. It might be a true reflection of how many people followed the official march - and even then they don't seem to have allowed for the fact that the march was continually getting new feeds at the back through the afternoon - but there were also considerable crowds joining at Green Park and a large gathering of people at St James Park big enough to have their own stage. (Not sure what it was - anyone know?). My estimate is the true figure is closer to 900,000.
I’ll have you know that St James Park has a capacity of 52,000 👌
Just googled it. It's area is 230000 sq metres. So you'd get nearly a million in it if you squeezed them and if there wasn't a body of water in the middle.
It will still be in the top three biggest public attendance events ever in the UK, and probably the second after the Stop the Iraq War march of 2003.
The point they are making in that article is that numbers are always overestimated.
At the risk of setting you know who off, I think that figure is an underestimate of participation. It might be a true reflection of how many people followed the official march - and even then they don't seem to have allowed for the fact that the march was continually getting new feeds at the back through the afternoon - but there were also considerable crowds joining at Green Park and a large gathering of people at St James Park big enough to have their own stage. (Not sure what it was - anyone know?). My estimate is the true figure is closer to 900,000.
I only got as far as the screen in Whitehall by 1515, having set off from Hyde Park Corner at 1215, so listened until Heseltine at 1600, then went for a beer with my brother, and a few of his neighbours. I never made it into Parliament Square as it was too packed.
It is a bit like the £350 million per week bus. It may only be half that but talking about the numbers just keeps the focus on the vast numbers that turn out to oppose Brexit. Carry on talking about them and the petition too
The Countryside Alliance march? Was that the one when all the bumpkins came to London to thank them for subsidising their lifestyle so heavily?
I went on that march, just for the lolz
What amazed me was the physical beauty of the girls (and boys, to be fair). Posh country English folk have very lovely daughters (with excellent teeth, and lovely honey blonde or russet red hair). It was like a parade of the best of Hitler Youth, only they were obsessed with killing foxes not Jews.
Right wing women are hotter than lefties. It's a universal truth.
Does anyone have email addresses for those eight magnificently gullible Remain ministers? I have some magic beans going cheap I am sure they’ll be interested in buying.
Does anyone have email addresses for those eight magnificently gullible Remain ministers? I have some magic beans going cheap I am sure they’ll be interested in buying.
Does anyone have email addresses for those eight magnificently gullible Remain ministers? I have some magic beans going cheap I am sure they’ll be interested in buying.
It will still be in the top three biggest public attendance events ever in the UK, and probably the second after the Stop the Iraq War march of 2003.
The point they are making in that article is that numbers are always overestimated.
At the risk of setting you know who off, I think that figure is an underestimate of participation. It might be a true reflection of how many people followed the official march - and even then they don't seem to have allowed for the fact that the march was continually getting new feeds at the back through the afternoon - but there were also considerable crowds joining at Green Park and a large gathering of people at St James Park big enough to have their own stage. (Not sure what it was - anyone know?). My estimate is the true figure is closer to 900,000.
I’ll have you know that St James Park has a capacity of 52,000 👌
Just googled it. It's area is 230000 sq metres. So you'd get nearly a million in it if you squeezed them and if there wasn't a body of water in the middle.
The Countryside Alliance march? Was that the one when all the bumpkins came to London to thank them for subsidising their lifestyle so heavily?
I went on that march, just for the lolz
What amazed me was the physical beauty of the girls (and boys, to be fair). Posh country English folk have very lovely daughters (with excellent teeth, and lovely honey blonde or russet red hair). It was like a parade of the best of Hitler Youth, only they were obsessed with killing foxes not Jews.
Right wing women are hotter than lefties. It's a universal truth.
He's been on one heck of a journey in the last fortnight from collaborating with a foreign power to interfere in the UK to facilitate No Deal to approving the Deal.
And nary an intellectual justification for any of these positions.
It will still be in the top three biggest public attendance events ever in the UK, and probably the second after the Stop the Iraq War march of 2003.
The point they are making in that article is that numbers are always overestimated.
At the risk of setting you know who off, I think that figure is an underestimate of participation. It might be a true reflection of how many people followed the official march - and even then they don't seem to have allowed for the fact that the march was continually getting new feeds at the back through the afternoon - but there were also considerable crowds joining at Green Park and a large gathering of people at St James Park big enough to have their own stage. (Not sure what it was - anyone know?). My estimate is the true figure is closer to 900,000.
I’ll have you know that St James Park has a capacity of 52,000 👌
Just googled it. It's area is 230000 sq metres. So you'd get nearly a million in it if you squeezed them and if there wasn't a body of water in the middle.
It will still be in the top three biggest public attendance events ever in the UK, and probably the second after the Stop the Iraq War march of 2003.
The point they are making in that article is that numbers are always overestimated.
At the risk of setting you know who off, I think that figure is an underestimate of participation. It might be a true reflection of how many people followed the official march - and even then they don't seem to have allowed for the fact that the march was continually getting new feeds at the back through the afternoon - but there were also considerable crowds joining at Green Park and a large gathering of people at St James Park big enough to have their own stage. (Not sure what it was - anyone know?). My estimate is the true figure is closer to 900,000.
I’ll have you know that St James Park has a capacity of 52,000 👌
Just googled it. It's area is 230000 sq metres. So you'd get nearly a million in it if you squeezed them and if there wasn't a body of water in the middle.
52,388 to be exact.
Where are you getting that number from?
I think you might find he is talking about a far more important St James Park somewhere up around Tyneside?
So we are thick, old, racist, stupid and hideously uncultured, kind of like bipedal geriatric monkeys, or something.
And these are the people that Remainers are trying to win to their cause, in a 2nd referendum.
I honestly think the grotesque snobbery, hypocrisy and elitism from Remainers would very likely make me vote Leave all over again. Remainers are just repulsive. They need to be taught a lesson. YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT. YOU NARCISSISTIC C*NTS.
Does anyone have email addresses for those eight magnificently gullible Remain ministers? I have some magic beans going cheap I am sure they’ll be interested in buying.
The best strategy for them is to save resignations for the moment, if it arrives, where a no deal decision is about to be made. They'll take a big chunk of their party with them, be able to bring down the government and opt for an alternative course, and have politics students writing essays about them in a hundred years time. Compared with that why walk out just now, when the tide appears to be flowing in their direction?
If only MPs would listen to what the EU is saying.
A No Deal exit will happen on 12th April unless the Deal is voted for (unlikely), Article 50 is revoked (also unlikely) or Parliament decides to have a second referendum or a GE.
Debating and voting on other possibilities is pointless flim-flam.
If MPs don’t pick one of the above options, a No Deal exit will happen.
One hopes the penny drops before 12th April. I have my doubts.
So we are thick, old, racist, stupid and hideously uncultured, kind of like bipedal geriatric monkeys, or something.
And these are the people that Remainers are trying to win to their cause, in a 2nd referendum.
I honestly think the grotesque snobbery, hypocrisy and elitism from Remainers would very likely make me vote Leave all over again. Remainers are just repulsive. They need to be taught a lesson. YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT. YOU NARCISSISTIC C*NTS.
That's one of the reasons I don't want another referendum.
I think Remain would make the same mistakes over again.
Much better for us to leave and experience life outside the EU then decide if that's what we really want or to Rejoin.
So we are thick, old, racist, stupid and hideously uncultured, kind of like bipedal geriatric monkeys, or something.
And these are the people that Remainers are trying to win to their cause, in a 2nd referendum.
I honestly think the grotesque snobbery, hypocrisy and elitism from Remainers would very likely make me vote Leave all over again. Remainers are just repulsive. They need to be taught a lesson. YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT. YOU NARCISSISTIC C*NTS.
If only MPs would listen to what the EU is saying.
A No Deal exit will happen on 12th April unless the Deal is voted for (unlikely), Article 50 is revoked (also unlikely) or Parliament decides to have a second referendum or a GE.
Debating and voting on other possibilities is pointless flim-flam.
If MPs don’t pick one of the above options, a No Deal exit will happen.
One hopes the penny drops before 12th April. I have my doubts.
If your job was to teach MPs instead of bankers not to be fuckwits, you would by now be a millionaire.
And probably committed to psychiatric care due to the mind-blowing frustration involved.
If only MPs would listen to what the EU is saying.
A No Deal exit will happen on 12th April unless the Deal is voted for (unlikely), Article 50 is revoked (also unlikely) or Parliament decides to have a second referendum or a GE.
Debating and voting on other possibilities is pointless flim-flam.
If MPs don’t pick one of the above options, a No Deal exit will happen.
One hopes the penny drops before 12th April. I have my doubts.
Too many self-important dickheads in Westminster - who love the sound of their own voice.
I'm not sure they have a "Just listen to someone smarter than you" setting.
The Countryside Alliance march? Was that the one when all the bumpkins came to London to thank them for subsidising their lifestyle so heavily?
I went on that march, just for the lolz
What amazed me was the physical beauty of the girls (and boys, to be fair). Posh country English folk have very lovely daughters (with excellent teeth, and lovely honey blonde or russet red hair). It was like a parade of the best of Hitler Youth, only they were obsessed with killing foxes not Jews.
Right wing women are hotter than lefties. It's a universal truth.
Unless you're Mrs Sean T apparently
Actually Mrs Sean T has taken a rightward turn.
I got her to read Wild Swans, by Jung Chang, and she's been on a journey ever since
To be fair to her, the journey began before we met. One of the reasons she dropped out of SOAS was because she couldn't stand the crazy identity politics and the fetishising of Islam by lefty feminists.
If only MPs would listen to what the EU is saying.
A No Deal exit will happen on 12th April unless the Deal is voted for (unlikely), Article 50 is revoked (also unlikely) or Parliament decides to have a second referendum or a GE.
Debating and voting on other possibilities is pointless flim-flam.
If MPs don’t pick one of the above options, a No Deal exit will happen.
One hopes the penny drops before 12th April. I have my doubts.
They are either being stupid or acting stupid and hoping the voters don't notice!
The Countryside Alliance march? Was that the one when all the bumpkins came to London to thank them for subsidising their lifestyle so heavily?
I went on that march, just for the lolz
What amazed me was the physical beauty of the girls (and boys, to be fair). Posh country English folk have very lovely daughters (with excellent teeth, and lovely honey blonde or russet red hair). It was like a parade of the best of Hitler Youth, only they were obsessed with killing foxes not Jews.
Right wing women are hotter than lefties. It's a universal truth.
Unless you're Mrs Sean T apparently
Actually Mrs Sean T has taken a rightward turn.
I got her to read Wild Swans, by Jung Chang, and she's been on a journey ever since
To be fair to her, the journey began before we met. One of the reasons she dropped out of SOAS was because she couldn't stand the crazy identity politics and the fetishising of Islam by lefty feminists.
That is a very interesting book. Much better than Jung's biography of Mao, I think.
So we are thick, old, racist, stupid and hideously uncultured, kind of like bipedal geriatric monkeys, or something.
And these are the people that Remainers are trying to win to their cause, in a 2nd referendum.
I honestly think the grotesque snobbery, hypocrisy and elitism from Remainers would very likely make me vote Leave all over again. Remainers are just repulsive. They need to be taught a lesson. YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT. YOU NARCISSISTIC C*NTS.
That's one of the reasons I don't want another referendum.
I think Remain would make the same mistakes over again.
Much better for us to leave and experience life outside the EU then decide if that's what we really want or to Rejoin.
Having Macedonians sing "Are you Scotland in disguise"? must have shamed them into some activity.....
Did you miss Scotland's 2-0 humbling of the mighty and Most Serene Republic of San Marino yesterday? What a performance, put me in mind of the '74 Holland team...
More people live in the area covered by Epping Forest District Council than live in San Marino
Yes, I know - I've been to San Marino. Its quite nice.
It is indeed. Kind of a land locked Mont Saint Michel.
It will still be in the top three biggest public attendance events ever in the UK, and probably the second after the Stop the Iraq War march of 2003.
The point they are making in that article is that numbers are always overestimated.
At the risk of setting you know who off, I think that figure is an underestimate of participation. It might be a true reflection of how many people followed the official march - and even then they don't seem to have allowed for the fact that the march was continually getting new feeds at the back through the afternoon - but there were also considerable crowds joining at Green Park and a large gathering of people at St James Park big enough to have their own stage. (Not sure what it was - anyone know?). My estimate is the true figure is closer to 900,000.
I only got as far as the screen in Whitehall by 1515, having set off from Hyde Park Corner at 1215, so listened until Heseltine at 1600, then went for a beer with my brother, and a few of his neighbours. I never made it into Parliament Square as it was too packed.
It is a bit like the £350 million per week bus. It may only be half that but talking about the numbers just keeps the focus on the vast numbers that turn out to oppose Brexit. Carry on talking about them and the petition too
Yeah I think it was the same problem both times. The pinch point where Piccadilly meets Park Lane held up loads of people. Punters with local knowledge were joining at Green Park. That was why it felt a lot bigger on the march itself this time. Last year it thinned out a bit on Piccadily - but this time there were effectively two feeds in. That is the why the crowd expert has got the number wrong by a factor of 2.
The Countryside Alliance march? Was that the one when all the bumpkins came to London to thank them for subsidising their lifestyle so heavily?
I went on that march, just for the lolz
What amazed me was the physical beauty of the girls (and boys, to be fair). Posh country English folk have very lovely daughters (with excellent teeth, and lovely honey blonde or russet red hair). It was like a parade of the best of Hitler Youth, only they were obsessed with killing foxes not Jews.
Right wing women are hotter than lefties. It's a universal truth.
Yes, but you can have some incredibly angry sex with lefty girls if you are a righty.
You can imagine the more nuttier* elements of the ERG putting burning EU flags in the gardens of EU citizens living in the UK.
*Horrendous tautology I know.
Remainers seem to want to label all leavers as nutters , hardly the way to reconcile a divided nation
I guess English isn't your first language.
My comment was NOT directed at all leavers, I was precise in that it was focussed on the ERG.
I'm only using the language Leavers use towards the ERG.
Little Englanders loons fruitcakes swivel eyed thickos racists amongst the other terms remainers have labelled leavers since the referendum.
Horrendous straw man arguments from you when you're exposed as talking bollocks.
IMagine if you were following the result of a referendum, and the central pledge of your last manifesto, and the central pledge of the opposition's too, but those who weren't were calling you the extremists. If you are yet to be convinced, here's some evidence of who was looking for purges and executions recently:
The Countryside Alliance march? Was that the one when all the bumpkins came to London to thank them for subsidising their lifestyle so heavily?
I went on that march, just for the lolz
What amazed me was the physical beauty of the girls (and boys, to be fair). Posh country English folk have very lovely daughters (with excellent teeth, and lovely honey blonde or russet red hair). It was like a parade of the best of Hitler Youth, only they were obsessed with killing foxes not Jews.
Right wing women are hotter than lefties. It's a universal truth.
Unless you're Mrs Sean T apparently
Actually Mrs Sean T has taken a rightward turn.
I got her to read Wild Swans, by Jung Chang, and she's been on a journey ever since
To be fair to her, the journey began before we met. One of the reasons she dropped out of SOAS was because she couldn't stand the crazy identity politics and the fetishising of Islam by lefty feminists.
A lot of lefties feminists are now getting in trouble because of their resistance of trans rights.
Does anyone have email addresses for those eight magnificently gullible Remain ministers? I have some magic beans going cheap I am sure they’ll be interested in buying.
The best strategy for them is to save resignations for the moment, if it arrives, where a no deal decision is about to be made. They'll take a big chunk of their party with them, be able to bring down the government and opt for an alternative course, and have politics students writing essays about them in a hundred years time. Compared with that why walk out just now, when the tide appears to be flowing in their direction?
I just don’t see how things are flowing their way. Letwin Cooper Boles will Gail by more votes than last time, May’s Deal will fail, which means that something else has to happen to prevent No Deal. What will that be when the ERG congenitally disloyal and the Soft Brexiteers are so supine?
So we are thick, old, racist, stupid and hideously uncultured, kind of like bipedal geriatric monkeys, or something.
And these are the people that Remainers are trying to win to their cause, in a 2nd referendum.
I honestly think the grotesque snobbery, hypocrisy and elitism from Remainers would very likely make me vote Leave all over again. Remainers are just repulsive. They need to be taught a lesson. YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT. YOU NARCISSISTIC C*NTS.
That's one of the reasons I don't want another referendum.
I think Remain would make the same mistakes over again.
Much better for us to leave and experience life outside the EU then decide if that's what we really want or to Rejoin.
I completely agree. I have gone from thinking Remain would walk a 2nd vote to thinking: Jesus, they can't help themselves. Even when they are trying to "reach out" and understand the Leave vote they sound patronising, supercilious and impatient, when they are relaxing and chilled they are brutally snobbish, and openly contemptuous, of their fellow Brits who voted Leave.
All this de haut en bas hatred for the proles would be cruelly exposed in a 2nd campaign. Because Remainers have no clue how they sound to ordinary people.
So yes, I think you're right: Remain might easily lose again, possibly by an even bigger margin.
Does anyone have email addresses for those eight magnificently gullible Remain ministers? I have some magic beans going cheap I am sure they’ll be interested in buying.
The best strategy for them is to save resignations for the moment, if it arrives, where a no deal decision is about to be made. They'll take a big chunk of their party with them, be able to bring down the government and opt for an alternative course, and have politics students writing essays about them in a hundred years time. Compared with that why walk out just now, when the tide appears to be flowing in their direction?
When it comes to 11 April, and there's a Commons vote on whether to have a longer extension or leave with No Deal, these gutless ministers will still find a lame excuse to not resign/rebel against the whip.
The Countryside Alliance march? Was that the one when all the bumpkins came to London to thank them for subsidising their lifestyle so heavily?
I went on that march, just for the lolz
What amazed me was the physical beauty of the girls (and boys, to be fair). Posh country English folk have very lovely daughters (with excellent teeth, and lovely honey blonde or russet red hair). It was like a parade of the best of Hitler Youth, only they were obsessed with killing foxes not Jews.
Right wing women are hotter than lefties. It's a universal truth.
Unless you're Mrs Sean T apparently
Actually Mrs Sean T has taken a rightward turn.
I got her to read Wild Swans, by Jung Chang, and she's been on a journey ever since
To be fair to her, the journey began before we met. One of the reasons she dropped out of SOAS was because she couldn't stand the crazy identity politics and the fetishising of Islam by lefty feminists.
That makes you a positive influence then. Good Man
If only MPs would listen to what the EU is saying.
A No Deal exit will happen on 12th April unless the Deal is voted for (unlikely), Article 50 is revoked (also unlikely) or Parliament decides to have a second referendum or a GE.
Debating and voting on other possibilities is pointless flim-flam.
If MPs don’t pick one of the above options, a No Deal exit will happen.
One hopes the penny drops before 12th April. I have my doubts.
They are either being stupid or acting stupid and hoping the voters don't notice!
It’s not the voters noticing they need to worry about. It’s the EU. They have the power to stop us exiting without a deal. To coin a phrase, they have Taken Back Control.
So we are thick, old, racist, stupid and hideously uncultured, kind of like bipedal geriatric monkeys, or something.
And these are the people that Remainers are trying to win to their cause, in a 2nd referendum.
I honestly think the grotesque snobbery, hypocrisy and elitism from Remainers would very likely make me vote Leave all over again. Remainers are just repulsive. They need to be taught a lesson. YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT. YOU NARCISSISTIC C*NTS.
I feel your pain it’s never easy working out the whole Monet/Manet or Pouilly Fume/Fuisse thing is it.
Does anyone have email addresses for those eight magnificently gullible Remain ministers? I have some magic beans going cheap I am sure they’ll be interested in buying.
The best strategy for them is to save resignations for the moment, if it arrives, where a no deal decision is about to be made. They'll take a big chunk of their party with them, be able to bring down the government and opt for an alternative course, and have politics students writing essays about them in a hundred years time. Compared with that why walk out just now, when the tide appears to be flowing in their direction?
When it comes to 11 April, and there's a Commons vote on whether to have a longer extension or leave with No Deal, these gutless ministers will still find a lame excuse to not resign/rebel against the whip.
Even May voted for extension over No Deal last time and would probably do so again
The Countryside Alliance march? Was that the one when all the bumpkins came to London to thank them for subsidising their lifestyle so heavily?
I went on that march, just for the lolz
What amazed me was the physical beauty of the girls (and boys, to be fair). Posh country English folk have very lovely daughters (with excellent teeth, and lovely honey blonde or russet red hair). It was like a parade of the best of Hitler Youth, only they were obsessed with killing foxes not Jews.
Right wing women are hotter than lefties. It's a universal truth.
Unless you're Mrs Sean T apparently
Actually Mrs Sean T has taken a rightward turn.
I got her to read Wild Swans, by Jung Chang, and she's been on a journey ever since
To be fair to her, the journey began before we met. One of the reasons she dropped out of SOAS was because she couldn't stand the crazy identity politics and the fetishising of Islam by lefty feminists.
Does anyone have email addresses for those eight magnificently gullible Remain ministers? I have some magic beans going cheap I am sure they’ll be interested in buying.
The best strategy for them is to save resignations for the moment, if it arrives, where a no deal decision is about to be made. They'll take a big chunk of their party with them, be able to bring down the government and opt for an alternative course, and have politics students writing essays about them in a hundred years time. Compared with that why walk out just now, when the tide appears to be flowing in their direction?
I just don’t see how things are flowing their way. Letwin Cooper Boles will Gail by more votes than last time, May’s Deal will fail, which means that something else has to happen to prevent No Deal. What will that be when the ERG congenitally disloyal and the Soft Brexiteers are so supine?
Indefinite extension, including contesting the EU Parliament elections, May made clear to day she is prepared to extend forever until the Commons passes her Deal
Does anyone have email addresses for those eight magnificently gullible Remain ministers? I have some magic beans going cheap I am sure they’ll be interested in buying.
The best strategy for them is to save resignations for the moment, if it arrives, where a no deal decision is about to be made. They'll take a big chunk of their party with them, be able to bring down the government and opt for an alternative course, and have politics students writing essays about them in a hundred years time. Compared with that why walk out just now, when the tide appears to be flowing in their direction?
When it comes to 11 April, and there's a Commons vote on whether to have a longer extension or leave with No Deal, these gutless ministers will still find a lame excuse to not resign/rebel against the whip.
If only MPs would listen to what the EU is saying.
A No Deal exit will happen on 12th April unless the Deal is voted for (unlikely), Article 50 is revoked (also unlikely) or Parliament decides to have a second referendum or a GE.
Debating and voting on other possibilities is pointless flim-flam.
If MPs don’t pick one of the above options, a No Deal exit will happen.
One hopes the penny drops before 12th April. I have my doubts.
Not correct actually, the EU and Tusk made clear there could be extension beyond April 12th provided we contest the EU elections
If only MPs would listen to what the EU is saying.
A No Deal exit will happen on 12th April unless the Deal is voted for (unlikely), Article 50 is revoked (also unlikely) or Parliament decides to have a second referendum or a GE.
Debating and voting on other possibilities is pointless flim-flam.
If MPs don’t pick one of the above options, a No Deal exit will happen.
One hopes the penny drops before 12th April. I have my doubts.
They are either being stupid or acting stupid and hoping the voters don't notice!
It’s not the voters noticing they need to worry about. It’s the EU. They have the power to stop us exiting without a deal. To coin a phrase, they have Taken Back Control.
So we are thick, old, racist, stupid and hideously uncultured, kind of like bipedal geriatric monkeys, or something.
And these are the people that Remainers are trying to win to their cause, in a 2nd referendum.
I honestly think the grotesque snobbery, hypocrisy and elitism from Remainers would very likely make me vote Leave all over again. Remainers are just repulsive. They need to be taught a lesson. YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT. YOU NARCISSISTIC C*NTS.
I feel your pain it’s never easy working out the whole Monet/Manet or Pouilly Fume/Fuisse thing is it.
The Countryside Alliance march? Was that the one when all the bumpkins came to London to thank them for subsidising their lifestyle so heavily?
I went on that march, just for the lolz
What amazed me was the physical beauty of the girls (and boys, to be fair). Posh country English folk have very lovely daughters (with excellent teeth, and lovely honey blonde or russet red hair). It was like a parade of the best of Hitler Youth, only they were obsessed with killing foxes not Jews.
Right wing women are hotter than lefties. It's a universal truth.
Unless you're Mrs Sean T apparently
Actually Mrs Sean T has taken a rightward turn.
I got her to read Wild Swans, by Jung Chang, and she's been on a journey ever since
To be fair to her, the journey began before we met. One of the reasons she dropped out of SOAS was because she couldn't stand the crazy identity politics and the fetishising of Islam by lefty feminists.
A lot of lefties feminists are now getting in trouble because of their resistance of trans rights.
Older ones mainly. They were lefty 20 -30 years ago. Rather as Tatchell was once a loony lefty and is now relatively mainstream. There are strong connections between the anti-trans rights people and the Christian Right.
So we are thick, old, racist, stupid and hideously uncultured, kind of like bipedal geriatric monkeys, or something.
And these are the people that Remainers are trying to win to their cause, in a 2nd referendum.
I honestly think the grotesque snobbery, hypocrisy and elitism from Remainers would very likely make me vote Leave all over again. Remainers are just repulsive. They need to be taught a lesson. YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT. YOU NARCISSISTIC C*NTS.
That's one of the reasons I don't want another referendum.
I think Remain would make the same mistakes over again.
Much better for us to leave and experience life outside the EU then decide if that's what we really want or to Rejoin.
I completely agree. I have gone from thinking Remain would walk a 2nd vote to thinking: Jesus, they can't help themselves. Even when they are trying to "reach out" and understand the Leave vote they sound patronising, supercilious and impatient, when they are relaxing and chilled they are brutally snobbish, and openly contemptuous, of their fellow Brits who voted Leave.
All this de haut en bas hatred for the proles would be cruelly exposed in a 2nd campaign. Because Remainers have no clue how they sound to ordinary people.
So yes, I think you're right: Remain might easily lose again, possibly by an even bigger margin.
Its funny.
The ERG put me off Brexit - never the ultra Remainers - and listening to the latter can push me to No Deal.
Does anyone have email addresses for those eight magnificently gullible Remain ministers? I have some magic beans going cheap I am sure they’ll be interested in buying.
The best strategy for them is to save resignations for the moment, if it arrives, where a no deal decision is about to be made. They'll take a big chunk of their party with them, be able to bring down the government and opt for an alternative course, and have politics students writing essays about them in a hundred years time. Compared with that why walk out just now, when the tide appears to be flowing in their direction?
When it comes to 11 April, and there's a Commons vote on whether to have a longer extension or leave with No Deal, these gutless ministers will still find a lame excuse to not resign/rebel against the whip.
So we are thick, old, racist, stupid and hideously uncultured, kind of like bipedal geriatric monkeys, or something.
And these are the people that Remainers are trying to win to their cause, in a 2nd referendum.
I honestly think the grotesque snobbery, hypocrisy and elitism from Remainers would very likely make me vote Leave all over again. Remainers are just repulsive. They need to be taught a lesson. YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT. YOU NARCISSISTIC C*NTS.
I feel your pain it’s never easy working out the whole Monet/Manet or Pouilly Fume/Fuisse thing is it.
Although, we have no problems sorting the Kants from the.....
I completely agree. I have gone from thinking Remain would walk a 2nd vote to thinking: Jesus, they can't help themselves. Even when they are trying to "reach out" and understand the Leave vote they sound patronising, supercilious and impatient, when they are relaxing and chilled they are brutally snobbish, and openly contemptuous, of their fellow Brits who voted Leave.
All this de haut en bas hatred for the proles would be cruelly exposed in a 2nd campaign. Because Remainers have no clue how they sound to ordinary people.
So yes, I think you're right: Remain might easily lose again, possibly by an even bigger margin.
It isn't hatred just an inability to understand what makes a working class Northerner tick.
For example a few of us were amused that one of Stronger In's focus was that Brexit means the return of mobile roaming charges.
That means bugger all to a Leaver who can't afford to go on an overseas holiday.
The Countryside Alliance march? Was that the one when all the bumpkins came to London to thank them for subsidising their lifestyle so heavily?
I went on that march, just for the lolz
What amazed me was the physical beauty of the girls (and boys, to be fair). Posh country English folk have very lovely daughters (with excellent teeth, and lovely honey blonde or russet red hair). It was like a parade of the best of Hitler Youth, only they were obsessed with killing foxes not Jews.
Right wing women are hotter than lefties. It's a universal truth.
Unless you're Mrs Sean T apparently
Actually Mrs Sean T has taken a rightward turn.
I got her to read Wild Swans, by Jung Chang, and she's been on a journey ever since
To be fair to her, the journey began before we met. One of the reasons she dropped out of SOAS was because she couldn't stand the crazy identity politics and the fetishising of Islam by lefty feminists.
Good for Mrs. SeanT.
One of the many reasons I adore my beautiful young wife, apart from the beauty and youth, is her sharp, funny, and vigorously inquiring mind. She won't just take what she's told. She goes out and reads and decides for herself.
She gives me hope for the future. She says there are others like her. In her generation. Who are beginning to reject the madness.
The Countryside Alliance march? Was that the one when all the bumpkins came to London to thank them for subsidising their lifestyle so heavily?
I went on that march, just for the lolz
What amazed me was the physical beauty of the girls (and boys, to be fair). Posh country English folk have very lovely daughters (with excellent teeth, and lovely honey blonde or russet red hair). It was like a parade of the best of Hitler Youth, only they were obsessed with killing foxes not Jews.
Right wing women are hotter than lefties. It's a universal truth.
Reactionary dilemma, who was hotter, Unity or Jessica Mitford?
Nb neither all that, but at least JM was smart & funny.
Does anyone have email addresses for those eight magnificently gullible Remain ministers? I have some magic beans going cheap I am sure they’ll be interested in buying.
The best strategy for them is to save resignations for the moment, if it arrives, where a no deal decision is about to be made. They'll take a big chunk of their party with them, be able to bring down the government and opt for an alternative course, and have politics students writing essays about them in a hundred years time. Compared with that why walk out just now, when the tide appears to be flowing in their direction?
I just don’t see how things are flowing their way. Letwin Cooper Boles will Gail by more votes than last time, May’s Deal will fail, which means that something else has to happen to prevent No Deal. What will that be when the ERG congenitally disloyal and the Soft Brexiteers are so supine?
Indefinite extension, including contesting the EU Parliament elections, May made clear to day she is prepared to extend forever until the Commons passes her Deal
She needs a reason to extend. What will it be? That said, I accept the EU will be very accommodating in that respect, we now know they are as terrified of No Deal as us, if not more - for us No Deal at least honours the referendum (settling one issue), and clears the deck, and we become a truly independent country.
For them No Deal is nothing but bad bad bad - Ireland in shock, several economies taking a hit (as they head into recession), and the EU permanently reduced and politically shrivelled, and lots of blame being handed around the Berlaymont,
The Countryside Alliance march? Was that the one when all the bumpkins came to London to thank them for subsidising their lifestyle so heavily?
I went on that march, just for the lolz
What amazed me was the physical beauty of the girls (and boys, to be fair). Posh country English folk have very lovely daughters (with excellent teeth, and lovely honey blonde or russet red hair). It was like a parade of the best of Hitler Youth, only they were obsessed with killing foxes not Jews.
Right wing women are hotter than lefties. It's a universal truth.
Reactionary dilemma, who was hotter, Unity or Jessica Mitford?
Nb neither all that, but at least JM was smart & funny.
Does anyone have email addresses for those eight magnificently gullible Remain ministers? I have some magic beans going cheap I am sure they’ll be interested in buying.
The best strategy for them is to save resignations for the moment, if it arrives, where a no deal decision is about to be made. They'll take a big chunk of their party with them, be able to bring down the government and opt for an alternative course, and have politics students writing essays about them in a hundred years time. Compared with that why walk out just now, when the tide appears to be flowing in their direction?
I just don’t see how things are flowing their way. Letwin Cooper Boles will Gail by more votes than last time, May’s Deal will fail, which means that something else has to happen to prevent No Deal. What will that be when the ERG congenitally disloyal and the Soft Brexiteers are so supine?
Indefinite extension, including contesting the EU Parliament elections, May made clear to day she is prepared to extend forever until the Commons passes her Deal
She needs a reason to extend. What will it be? That said, I accept the EU will be very accommodating in that respect, we now know they are as terrified of No Deal as us, if not more - for us No Deal at least honours the referendum (settling one issue), and clears the deck, and we become a truly independent country.
For them No Deal is nothing but bad bad bad - Ireland in shock, several economies taking a hit (as they head into recession), and the EU permanently reduced and politically shrivelled, and lots of blame being handed around the Berlaymont,
When you paint it like that, No Deal is so damned attractive......
So we are thick, old, racist, stupid and hideously uncultured, kind of like bipedal geriatric monkeys, or something.
And these are the people that Remainers are trying to win to their cause, in a 2nd referendum.
I honestly think the grotesque snobbery, hypocrisy and elitism from Remainers would very likely make me vote Leave all over again. Remainers are just repulsive. They need to be taught a lesson. YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT. YOU NARCISSISTIC C*NTS.
I feel your pain it’s never easy working out the whole Monet/Manet or Pouilly Fume/Fuisse thing is it.
Although, we have no problems sorting the Kants from the.....
Does anyone have email addresses for those eight magnificently gullible Remain ministers? I have some magic beans going cheap I am sure they’ll be interested in buying.
The best strategy for them is to save resignations for the moment, if it arrives, where a no deal decision is about to be made. They'll take a big chunk of their party with them, be able to bring down the government and opt for an alternative course, and have politics students writing essays about them in a hundred years time. Compared with that why walk out just now, when the tide appears to be flowing in their direction?
I just don’t see how things are flowing their way. Letwin Cooper Boles will Gail by more votes than last time, May’s Deal will fail, which means that something else has to happen to prevent No Deal. What will that be when the ERG congenitally disloyal and the Soft Brexiteers are so supine?
Indefinite extension, including contesting the EU Parliament elections, May made clear to day she is prepared to extend forever until the Commons passes her Deal
She needs a reason to extend. What will it be? That said, I accept the EU will be very accommodating in that respect, we now know they are as terrified of No Deal as us, if not more - for us No Deal at least honours the referendum (settling one issue), and clears the deck, and we become a truly independent country.
For them No Deal is nothing but bad bad bad - Ireland in shock, several economies taking a hit (as they head into recession), and the EU permanently reduced and politically shrivelled, and lots of blame being handed around the Berlaymont,
The absolute worst case scenario for the EU is we leave with No Deal, and it turns out to be not very serious. At that point they run the risk of several other dissatisfied countries following suit. That I think is why they should be afraid of it.
I'm not saying a No Deal wouldn't be very serious for us BTW, just that if it isn't a demonstrable irrefutable disaster that would be more damaging to the EU than us leaving with a deal.
I completely agree. I have gone from thinking Remain would walk a 2nd vote to thinking: Jesus, they can't help themselves. Even when they are trying to "reach out" and understand the Leave vote they sound patronising, supercilious and impatient, when they are relaxing and chilled they are brutally snobbish, and openly contemptuous, of their fellow Brits who voted Leave.
All this de haut en bas hatred for the proles would be cruelly exposed in a 2nd campaign. Because Remainers have no clue how they sound to ordinary people.
So yes, I think you're right: Remain might easily lose again, possibly by an even bigger margin.
It isn't hatred just an inability to understand what makes a working class Northerner tick.
For example a few of us were amused that one of Stronger In's focus was that Brexit means the return of mobile roaming charges.
That means bugger all to a Leaver who can't afford to go on an overseas holiday.
I wonder what percentage of the overall Leave vote do not ever go on holidays abroad.
My view is that a second referendum would be pretty tight. The Leave side also has a huge amount of negativity to overcome, especially around those would be fronting it.
Does anyone have email addresses for those eight magnificently gullible Remain ministers? I have some magic beans going cheap I am sure they’ll be interested in buying.
The best strategy for them is to save resignations for the moment, if it arrives, where a no deal decision is about to be made. They'll take a big chunk of their party with them, be able to bring down the government and opt for an alternative course, and have politics students writing essays about them in a hundred years time. Compared with that why walk out just now, when the tide appears to be flowing in their direction?
I just don’t see how things are flowing their way. Letwin Cooper Boles will Gail by more votes than last time, May’s Deal will fail, which means that something else has to happen to prevent No Deal. What will that be when the ERG congenitally disloyal and the Soft Brexiteers are so supine?
Indefinite extension, including contesting the EU Parliament elections, May made clear to day she is prepared to extend forever until the Commons passes her Deal
She needs a reason to extend. What will it be? That said, I accept the EU will be very accommodating in that respect, we now know they are as terrified of No Deal as us, if not more - for us No Deal at least honours the referendum (settling one issue), and clears the deck, and we become a truly independent country.
For them No Deal is nothing but bad bad bad - Ireland in shock, several economies taking a hit (as they head into recession), and the EU permanently reduced and politically shrivelled, and lots of blame being handed around the Berlaymont,
She doesn't really, all the EU have said they need is the UK to contest the EU Parliament elections and some votes to indicate what the Commons will vote for. As you say the EU have no interest in No Deal unless forced, it is a hassle and they know the Commons has voted to rule out No Deal permanently so the EU can just stand us in the corner forever if needed as long as we pay the bills and remain part of the institutions and get on with other things
Does anyone have email addresses for those eight magnificently gullible Remain ministers? I have some magic beans going cheap I am sure they’ll be interested in buying.
The best strategy for them is to save resignations for the moment, if it arrives, where a no deal decision is about to be made. They'll take a big chunk of their party with them, be able to bring down the government and opt for an alternative course, and have politics students writing essays about them in a hundred years time. Compared with that why walk out just now, when the tide appears to be flowing in their direction?
I just don’t see how things are flowing their way. Letwin Cooper Boles will Gail by more votes than last time, May’s Deal will fail, which means that something else has to happen to prevent No Deal. What will that be when the ERG congenitally disloyal and the Soft Brexiteers are so supine?
Indefinite extension, including contesting the EU Parliament elections, May made clear to day she is prepared to extend forever until the Commons passes her Deal
She needs a reason to extend. What will it be? That said, I accept the EU will be very accommodating in that respect, we now know they are as terrified of No Deal as us, if not more - for us No Deal at least honours the referendum (settling one issue), and clears the deck, and we become a truly independent country.
For them No Deal is nothing but bad bad bad - Ireland in shock, several economies taking a hit (as they head into recession), and the EU permanently reduced and politically shrivelled, and lots of blame being handed around the Berlaymont,
When you paint it like that, No Deal is so damned attractive......
Except 44% of our exports go to the EU but only 16% of EU exports to the UK, it will hit us both, which is why the EU want to avoid it if possible but us more than them
Does anyone have email addresses for those eight magnificently gullible Remain ministers? I have some magic beans going cheap I am sure they’ll be interested in buying.
The best strategy for them is to save resignations for the moment, if it arrives, where a no deal decision is about to be made. They'll take a big chunk of their party with them, be able to bring down the government and opt for an alternative course, and have politics students writing essays about them in a hundred years time. Compared with that why walk out just now, when the tide appears to be flowing in their direction?
I just don’t see how things are flowing their way. Letwin Cooper Boles will Gail by more votes than last time, May’s Deal will fail, which means that something else has to happen to prevent No Deal. What will that be when the ERG congenitally disloyal and the Soft Brexiteers are so supine?
Indefinite extension, including contesting the EU Parliament elections, May made clear to day she is prepared to extend forever until the Commons passes her Deal
She needs a reason to extend. What will it be? That said, I accept the EU will be very accommodating in that respect, we now know they are as terrified of No Deal as us, if not more - for us No Deal at least honours the referendum (settling one issue), and clears the deck, and we become a truly independent country.
For them No Deal is nothing but bad bad bad - Ireland in shock, several economies taking a hit (as they head into recession), and the EU permanently reduced and politically shrivelled, and lots of blame being handed around the Berlaymont,
She doesn't really, all the EU have said they need is the UK to contest the EU Parliament elections and some votes to indicate what the Commons will vote for. As you say the EU have no interest in No Deal unless forced, it is a hassle and they know the Commons has voted to rule out No Deal permanently so the EU can just stand us in the corner forever if needed as long as we pay the bills and remain part of the institutions and get on with other things
Agreed, and they must think (as most of us do) that the longer it all drags on the more likely we are never to leave.
I completely agree. I have gone from thinking Remain would walk a 2nd vote to thinking: Jesus, they can't help themselves. Even when they are trying to "reach out" and understand the Leave vote they sound patronising, supercilious and impatient, when they are relaxing and chilled they are brutally snobbish, and openly contemptuous, of their fellow Brits who voted Leave.
All this de haut en bas hatred for the proles would be cruelly exposed in a 2nd campaign. Because Remainers have no clue how they sound to ordinary people.
So yes, I think you're right: Remain might easily lose again, possibly by an even bigger margin.
It isn't hatred just an inability to understand what makes a working class Northerner tick.
For example a few of us were amused that one of Stronger In's focus was that Brexit means the return of mobile roaming charges.
That means bugger all to a Leaver who can't afford to go on an overseas holiday.
It's also absolute bollocks, which doesn't really help.
All four main companies have said they won't reintroduce roaming charges.
Smaller companies like giffgaff might just do it, but there is no incentive for the larger companies, and a massive disincentive, in terms of scaring their customers to alternative providers that don't charge,
The whole thrust of the industry is towards lower and lower roaming charges. I was charged £6 a day by Vodafone to have my entire UK data and calling plan.... in Vietnam, last month.
Vietnam??? That's not in the EU. Just £6? And I was only charged that fee - less than the cost of a sandwich and coffee in Pret - on the days I used it.
Eventually all this stuff will be free everywhere (i.e. you'll pay a domestic bill wherever you go).
Does anyone have email addresses for those eight magnificently gullible Remain ministers? I have some magic beans going cheap I am sure they’ll be interested in buying.
The best strategy for them is to save resignations for the moment, if it arrives, where a no deal decision is about to be made. They'll take a big chunk of their party with them, be able to bring down the government and opt for an alternative course, and have politics students writing essays about them in a hundred years time. Compared with that why walk out just now, when the tide appears to be flowing in their direction?
I just don’t see how things are flowing their way. Letwin Cooper Boles will Gail by more votes than last time, May’s Deal will fail, which means that something else has to happen to prevent No Deal. What will that be when the ERG congenitally disloyal and the Soft Brexiteers are so supine?
Indefinite extension, including contesting the EU Parliament elections, May made clear to day she is prepared to extend forever until the Commons passes her Deal
She needs a reason to extend. What will it be? That said, I accept the EU will be very accommodating in that respect, we now know they are as terrified of No Deal as us, if not more - for us No Deal at least honours the referendum (settling one issue), and clears the deck, and we become a truly independent country.
For them No Deal is nothing but bad bad bad - Ireland in shock, several economies taking a hit (as they head into recession), and the EU permanently reduced and politically shrivelled, and lots of blame being handed around the Berlaymont,
The absolute worst case scenario for the EU is we leave with No Deal, and it turns out to be not very serious. At that point they run the risk of several other dissatisfied countries following suit. That I think is why they should be afraid of it.
I'm not saying a No Deal wouldn't be very serious for us BTW, just that if it isn't a demonstrable irrefutable disaster that would be more damaging to the EU than us leaving with a deal.
I'm sure there are a number of governments absolutely itching to embark on this process.
The Countryside Alliance march? Was that the one when all the bumpkins came to London to thank them for subsidising their lifestyle so heavily?
I went on that march, just for the lolz
What amazed me was the physical beauty of the girls (and boys, to be fair). Posh country English folk have very lovely daughters (with excellent teeth, and lovely honey blonde or russet red hair). It was like a parade of the best of Hitler Youth, only they were obsessed with killing foxes not Jews.
Right wing women are hotter than lefties. It's a universal truth.
Reactionary dilemma, who was hotter, Unity or Jessica Mitford?
Nb neither all that, but at least JM was smart & funny.
I completely agree. I have gone from thinking Remain would walk a 2nd vote to thinking: Jesus, they can't help themselves. Even when they are trying to "reach out" and understand the Leave vote they sound patronising, supercilious and impatient, when they are relaxing and chilled they are brutally snobbish, and openly contemptuous, of their fellow Brits who voted Leave.
All this de haut en bas hatred for the proles would be cruelly exposed in a 2nd campaign. Because Remainers have no clue how they sound to ordinary people.
So yes, I think you're right: Remain might easily lose again, possibly by an even bigger margin.
It isn't hatred just an inability to understand what makes a working class Northerner tick.
For example a few of us were amused that one of Stronger In's focus was that Brexit means the return of mobile roaming charges.
That means bugger all to a Leaver who can't afford to go on an overseas holiday.
It's also absolute bollocks, which doesn't really help.
All four main companies have said they won't reintroduce roaming charges.
Smaller companies like giffgaff might just do it, but there is no incentive for the larger companies, and a massive disincentive, in terms of scaring their customers to alternative providers that don't charge,
The whole thrust of the industry is towards lower and lower roaming charges. I was charged £6 a day by Vodafone to have my entire UK data and calling plan.... in Vietnam, last month.
Vietnam??? That's not in the EU. Just £6? And I was only charged that fee - less than the cost of a sandwich and coffee in Pret - on the days I used it.
Eventually all this stuff will be free everywhere (i.e. you'll pay a domestic bill wherever you go).
Be careful the Daily Mash don't simply cut and paste your latest post for tomorrow's lead article - it's certainly up there with the best.
Still, if that's your general standard of irony I might be tempted to try one of your books.
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Is that the state of play.
What amazed me was the physical beauty of the girls (and boys, to be fair). Posh country English folk have very lovely daughters (with excellent teeth, and lovely honey blonde or russet red hair). It was like a parade of the best of Hitler Youth, only they were obsessed with killing foxes not Jews.
It is a bit like the £350 million per week bus. It may only be half that but talking about the numbers just keeps the focus on the vast numbers that turn out to oppose Brexit. Carry on talking about them and the petition too
https://twitter.com/JANUSZCZAK/status/1109111214817316864
So we are thick, old, racist, stupid and hideously uncultured, kind of like bipedal geriatric monkeys, or something.
And these are the people that Remainers are trying to win to their cause, in a 2nd referendum.
I honestly think the grotesque snobbery, hypocrisy and elitism from Remainers would very likely make me vote Leave all over again. Remainers are just repulsive. They need to be taught a lesson. YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT. YOU NARCISSISTIC C*NTS.
A No Deal exit will happen on 12th April unless the Deal is voted for (unlikely), Article 50 is revoked (also unlikely) or Parliament decides to have a second referendum or a GE.
Debating and voting on other possibilities is pointless flim-flam.
If MPs don’t pick one of the above options, a No Deal exit will happen.
One hopes the penny drops before 12th April. I have my doubts.
I think Remain would make the same mistakes over again.
Much better for us to leave and experience life outside the EU then decide if that's what we really want or to Rejoin.
She only goes against the ERG's preferred course when a Commons vote forces her into it.
And probably committed to psychiatric care due to the mind-blowing frustration involved.
I'm not sure they have a "Just listen to someone smarter than you" setting.
He must be incredibly frustrated he keeps getting so heavily prickteased by the Cabinet.
I got her to read Wild Swans, by Jung Chang, and she's been on a journey ever since
To be fair to her, the journey began before we met. One of the reasons she dropped out of SOAS was because she couldn't stand the crazy identity politics and the fetishising of Islam by lefty feminists.
Noone has learnt anything from this.
https://twitter.com/Andrew_Adonis/status/1109765875433910272
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1109372378344239104
Edit: another comment, ANOTHER goal for England
Fat lot of good it did too.
All this de haut en bas hatred for the proles would be cruelly exposed in a 2nd campaign. Because Remainers have no clue how they sound to ordinary people.
So yes, I think you're right: Remain might easily lose again, possibly by an even bigger margin.
https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/1110282809250402304?s=21
https://twitter.com/ariehkovler/status/1110283498907156487?s=21
There are strong connections between the anti-trans rights people and the Christian Right.
The ERG put me off Brexit - never the ultra Remainers - and listening to the latter can push me to No Deal.
For example a few of us were amused that one of Stronger In's focus was that Brexit means the return of mobile roaming charges.
That means bugger all to a Leaver who can't afford to go on an overseas holiday.
She gives me hope for the future. She says there are others like her. In her generation. Who are beginning to reject the madness.
Inshallah!
Nb neither all that, but at least JM was smart & funny.
For them No Deal is nothing but bad bad bad - Ireland in shock, several economies taking a hit (as they head into recession), and the EU permanently reduced and politically shrivelled, and lots of blame being handed around the Berlaymont,
WE HAVE A TEAM
God, I love Gareth Southgate.
I'm not saying a No Deal wouldn't be very serious for us BTW, just that if it isn't a demonstrable irrefutable disaster that would be more damaging to the EU than us leaving with a deal.
My view is that a second referendum would be pretty tight. The Leave side also has a huge amount of negativity to overcome, especially around those would be fronting it.
All four main companies have said they won't reintroduce roaming charges.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/09/13/brexit_mobile_roaming/
Smaller companies like giffgaff might just do it, but there is no incentive for the larger companies, and a massive disincentive, in terms of scaring their customers to alternative providers that don't charge,
The whole thrust of the industry is towards lower and lower roaming charges. I was charged £6 a day by Vodafone to have my entire UK data and calling plan.... in Vietnam, last month.
Vietnam??? That's not in the EU. Just £6? And I was only charged that fee - less than the cost of a sandwich and coffee in Pret - on the days I used it.
Eventually all this stuff will be free everywhere (i.e. you'll pay a domestic bill wherever you go).
It hasn't aged well.
Araminta
It hasn't aged well.
Still, if that's your general standard of irony I might be tempted to try one of your books.