Tories have a major problem (well several, but here's one). Boris can reach out and drag Farage voters back. Rory can reach out a bring floating Lab/Lib/Tory voters.
Who is more likely to bring enough votes in and beat Corbyn?
I'm not so sure the answer is actually Boris.
According to Yougov it is Boris as he cuts the Brexit Party back from over 20% to 13% and gets the Tories to 29% while with most other leadership contenders the Brexit Party remain over 20% and the Tories trail the LDs or Labour with the exception of Raab who still fails to cut them back as much as Boris.
Whichever leadership contender wins it makes little difference to Labour or LD support both of which stay in the 20 to 22% range regardless
Tories have a major problem (well several, but here's one). Boris can reach out and drag Farage voters back. Rory can reach out a bring floating Lab/Lib/Tory voters.
Who is more likely to bring enough votes in and beat Corbyn?
I'm not so sure the answer is actually Boris.
It needs repeating time and time and time again. You win power in this country when you win the centre.
Tories have a major problem (well several, but here's one). Boris can reach out and drag Farage voters back. Rory can reach out a bring floating Lab/Lib/Tory voters.
Who is more likely to bring enough votes in and beat Corbyn?
I'm not so sure the answer is actually Boris.
It needs repeating time and time and time again. You win power in this country when you win the centre.
Tories have a major problem (well several, but here's one). Boris can reach out and drag Farage voters back. Rory can reach out a bring floating Lab/Lib/Tory voters.
Who is more likely to bring enough votes in and beat Corbyn?
I'm not so sure the answer is actually Boris.
It needs repeating time and time and time again. You win power in this country when you win the centre.
Steve Baker calls for the abolition of the monarchy and the installation of Mr and Mrs Peter Bone as "Dear Leader and Leaderene"
To be fair they only asked a question and nodded, they did not comment for or against Brexit just asked about its implications.
That said while the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh are almost certainly Leavers and the Queen Mother was reportedly very anti EU, William and Kate are almost certainly Remainers as is Prince Charles. The age divide runs even amongst the Royals
Extraordinary insights! The evidence being what, precisely?
The Queen asking what the EU has ever done for us at a banquet, the Queen Mother saw the EU as a German plot, the Cambridges are basically young metropolitan liberals, Prince Charles is a climate change obsessive and basically a LD
Very flimsy evidence combined with pure invention. Many of the older generation are motivated by the 'never again' reaction to WWII, and support European unity for that reason. Charles is an eccentric fogey with a number of niche obsessions. This does not make him a LibDem. The Cambridges have been a model of political neutrality, more county set than metroplitan liberals.
Tories have a major problem (well several, but here's one). Boris can reach out and drag Farage voters back. Rory can reach out a bring floating Lab/Lib/Tory voters.
Who is more likely to bring enough votes in and beat Corbyn?
I'm not so sure the answer is actually Boris.
According to Yougov it is Boris as he cuts the Brexit Party back from over 20% to 13% and gets the Tories to 29% while with most other leadership contenders the Brexit Party remain over 20% and the Tories trail the LDs or Labour with the exception of Raab who still fails to cut them back as much as Boris.
Whichever leadership contender wins it makes little difference to Labour or LD support both of which stay in the 20 to 22% range regardless
I don't buy that. YouGov polling now does not take account of the voters having no idea who Rory is. Imagine him in a series of TV debates against Jezza and his wild ideas about worldwide conspiracies of jews and american imperialists.
Tory remainers may as well rally around Rory Stewart rather than Jeremy Hunt. Both have no chance of winning but Stewart would at least give them a fresh starting point and vision to campaign for in the near future.
Rory still doesn't have a plan unfortunately. I wanted the deal to pass, but he's just got the same proven incorrect theory that various MPs will come behind the deal now, and they will blame the Brexiteers for not leaving. Ok, he has his citizen assembly idea, but I don't see how that works. I'm told it has worked on issues in some other places, but I think you just get another body which would become deadlocked between extremists.
Tory remainers may as well rally around Rory Stewart rather than Jeremy Hunt. Both have no chance of winning but Stewart would at least give them a fresh starting point and vision to campaign for in the near future.
That's the ERG vote gone then as Rory blames them for no leaving in March
I don't think Rory was ever depending on the support of Mr Rees Mogg.
Ooh, look. I just called him Rory. That is a sign.
"Rory" needs to get to the final two, replacing the lacklustre Hunt as the One Nation, Soft Brexit candidate, versus Boris. He then needs Boris to self-destruct.
Tory remainers may as well rally around Rory Stewart rather than Jeremy Hunt. Both have no chance of winning but Stewart would at least give them a fresh starting point and vision to campaign for in the near future.
Tories have a major problem (well several, but here's one). Boris can reach out and drag Farage voters back. Rory can reach out a bring floating Lab/Lib/Tory voters.
Who is more likely to bring enough votes in and beat Corbyn?
I'm not so sure the answer is actually Boris.
According to Yougov it is Boris as he cuts the Brexit Party back from over 20% to 13% and gets the Tories to 29% while with most other leadership contenders the Brexit Party remain over 20% and the Tories trail the LDs or Labour with the exception of Raab who still fails to cut them back as much as Boris.
Whichever leadership contender wins it makes little difference to Labour or LD support both of which stay in the 20 to 22% range regardless
I don't buy that. YouGov polling now does not take account of the voters having no idea who Rory is. Imagine him in a series of TV debates against Jezza and his wild ideas about worldwide conspiracies of jews and american imperialists.
To be fair to Rory it only included Boris, Raab, Javid, Gove and Hunt
"He pledges to walk through every county in the country if he becomes prime minister, "listening and walking, listening and walking" to ordinary people."
I cannot help but feel Boris' biggest trump card is his name recognition. It gives him a huge boost in some polling, which spooks or encourages MPs, which adds to his sense as the frontrunner, and then the members go in knowing he is favourite, and that the person (whoever it is) standing against him, is not as firm on Brexit, and that is all they need to know.
Radiohead have scuppered a blackmail attempt by releasing 18 hours of music recorded during the making of their classic album OK Computer.
Tapes from the sessions were allegedly stolen last week, with hackers demanding $150,000 for their return.
Instead, the band released the tapes in full, with profits going to climate crisis activists Extinction Rebellion.
"For £18 you can find out if we should have paid that ransom," said guitarist Jonny Greenwood in a statement.
Released in 1997, OK Computer is often called Radiohead's masterpiece - marking a huge sonic leap forward from its equally-beloved predecessor The Bends.
If Boris is politically clever (is he? I really wonder) then he will be magnanimous to Rory S, who is clearly a rising star on the left of the party, which needs to be mollified.
Boris should be generous, and admiring, and say he would put Stewart in a significant Cabinet position.
It should mean that. Although given they are essentially between leaders and thus, in the unlikely event he wins the contest, his policy approach would be seen as correct, perhaps they will try to justify not doing so as an exceptional circumstance.
The shocking thing is that Rory is just making obvious, mainstream, Conservative points, clearly and without equivocation. That is shocking because we have become so inured to fudge, fantasy and extremism that the moderate, sensible voices have been cowed into silence, as indeed they have in Labour.
If Boris is politically clever (is he? I really wonder) then he will be magnanimous to Rory S, who is clearly a rising star on the left of the party, which needs to be mollified.
Boris should be generous, and admiring, and say he would put Stewart in a significant Cabinet position.
If it is true as stated below that Rory has said he would not serve under Boris, then all the more reason for Boris to say he will offer a significant position to him, as it would be Rory snubbing him not the other way around.
The shocking thing is that Rory is just making obvious, mainstream, Conservative points, clearly and without equivocation. That is shocking because we have become so inured to fudge, fantasy and extremism that the moderate, sensible voices have been cowed into silence, as indeed they have in Labour.
Conservatism is Brexit, nothing more, nothing less. That is what the massive surge to BXP has taught us.
The shocking thing is that Rory is just making obvious, mainstream, Conservative points, clearly and without equivocation. That is shocking because we have become so inured to fudge, fantasy and extremism that the moderate, sensible voices have been cowed into silence, as indeed they have in Labour.
Conservatism is Brexit, nothing more, nothing less. That is what the massive surge to BXP has taught us.
Re. Brexit, he has said he'll support the cross party strategy to block No Deal (good man) and he talked at the end of the main speech about courage being not chasing the unicorns, the fantasies but facing reality.
I'd read that to going for something close to May's-EU deal but I could be wrong.
He's streets ahead of the other candidates and would toast Corbyn. But he won't be chosen by the lunatics who have taken over the asylum.
The shocking thing is that Rory is just making obvious, mainstream, Conservative points, clearly and without equivocation. That is shocking because we have become so inured to fudge, fantasy and extremism that the moderate, sensible voices have been cowed into silence, as indeed they have in Labour.
Conservatism is Brexit, nothing more, nothing less. That is what the massive surge to BXP has taught us.
In that case we need a new party to take over the great Conservative traditions of pragmatism, sound finances, opportunity, and respect for ourselves, for others and for our history. The Big Tent Party, anyone?
I have no doubt that Rory is the single most impressive politician in British politics right now by a country mile. And yet. If he can't win over his fellow MPs, and then his Party members, within mere days, he will end up a big failure.
I don't buy this nonsense of running this time to prepare for the next contest. The time when he can make a difference is now. The country needs him to win.
Of course he's refusing to talk about it, that's the whole point of an NDA. The judge's summing up on his court action against Associated Newspapers made the point that party [E] wished the matter to remain private also. Why is Buzzfeed trying to drag [E] to a place she does not want to go ?????
In all seriousness, it was a good event, but the simple fact of saying he would vote for Corbyn's motion surely means while he might squeak past the first round he will get no further. Tory MPs might well agree with a lot of what he says, but most of them could not stomach even talking to Corbyn to deliver Brexit, let alone to stop the only likely Brexit on offer.
In less seriousness, I hope Boris rides a motorbike into an arena to open his event.
Re. Brexit, he has said he'll support the cross party strategy to block No Deal (good man) and he talked at the end of the main speech about courage being not chasing the unicorns, the fantasies but facing reality.
I'd read that to going for something close to May's-EU deal but I could be wrong.
He's streets ahead of the other candidates and would toast Corbyn. But he won't be chosen by the lunatics who have taken over the asylum.
Well, the event at which I was due to speak was cancelled as it turned out it was at the building on which the helicopter crash landed yesterday. What are the odds, eh!
So have a day in NY to bum around. Have just watched Rory Stewart’s speech and his Q&A. Very impressive. The standout candidate.
If the Tories reject him they are fools. They will, I fear. They are fools.
But I hope Rory will hang on in there for the next time. There is something about him which has been lacking in far too many politicians and which we need in this country.
I have no doubt that Rory is the single most impressive politician in British politics right now by a country mile. And yet. If he can't win over his fellow MPs, and then his Party members, within mere days, he will end up a big failure.
I don't buy this nonsense of running this time to prepare for the next contest. The time when he can make a difference is now. The country needs him to win.
It's too much. Jesus Christ could not win the contest if he adopted the 'wrong' policies. Despite being in the Cabinet he was a virtual unknown, now he is a little bit more known. Doing so for the next contest or not, that will have to be enough.
The shocking thing is that Rory is just making obvious, mainstream, Conservative points, clearly and without equivocation. That is shocking because we have become so inured to fudge, fantasy and extremism that the moderate, sensible voices have been cowed into silence, as indeed they have in Labour.
Conservatism is Brexit, nothing more, nothing less. That is what the massive surge to BXP has taught us.
In that case we need a new party to take over the great Conservative traditions of pragmatism, sound finances, opportunity, and respect for ourselves, for others and for our history. The Big Tent Party, anyone?
In theory, but pretending their tent was big enough for Grievers and Bakers is part of why the Tories are so messed up. An open event is all well and good, but some standards need to be applied.
I have no doubt that Rory is the single most impressive politician in British politics right now by a country mile. And yet. If he can't win over his fellow MPs, and then his Party members, within mere days, he will end up a big failure.
I don't buy this nonsense of running this time to prepare for the next contest. The time when he can make a difference is now. The country needs him to win.
Nope - this mess can't be solved. Rory is better off picking up the pieces after Boris has really screwed things up...
Equally I wouldn't be surprised if Rory was leader of the Tories by this time next year...
It should mean that. Although given they are essentially between leaders and thus, in the unlikely event he wins the contest, his policy approach would be seen as correct, perhaps they will try to justify not doing so as an exceptional circumstance.
Maybe it forces May to accept the Opposition motion rather than oppose it.
I have no doubt that Rory is the single most impressive politician in British politics right now by a country mile. And yet. If he can't win over his fellow MPs, and then his Party members, within mere days, he will end up a big failure.
I don't buy this nonsense of running this time to prepare for the next contest. The time when he can make a difference is now. The country needs him to win.
It's too much. Jesus Christ could not win the contest if he adopted the 'wrong' policies. Despite being in the Cabinet he was a virtual unknown, now he is a little bit more known. Doing so for the next contest or not, that will have to be enough.
The shocking thing is that Rory is just making obvious, mainstream, Conservative points, clearly and without equivocation. That is shocking because we have become so inured to fudge, fantasy and extremism that the moderate, sensible voices have been cowed into silence, as indeed they have in Labour.
Conservatism is Brexit, nothing more, nothing less. That is what the massive surge to BXP has taught us.
In that case we need a new party to take over the great Conservative traditions of pragmatism, sound finances, opportunity, and respect for ourselves, for others and for our history. The Big Tent Party, anyone?
In theory, but pretending their tent was big enough for Grievers and Bakers is part of why the Tories are so messed up. An open event is all well and good, but some standards need to be applied.
That could equally be said of McVey, Baker and Rees Mogg and I'm far more likely to vote for a Rory led party than one led by Boris, Rabb or McVey
"He pledges to walk through every county in the country if he becomes prime minister, "listening and walking, listening and walking" to ordinary people."
I'll go with him if he does the county tops.
Rory is the only politician I'm interested in meeting. Ever.
Re. Brexit, he has said he'll support the cross party strategy to block No Deal (good man) and he talked at the end of the main speech about courage being not chasing the unicorns, the fantasies but facing reality.
I'd read that to going for something close to May's-EU deal but I could be wrong.
He's streets ahead of the other candidates and would toast Corbyn. But he won't be chosen by the lunatics who have taken over the asylum.
Well, the event at which I was due to speak was cancelled as it turned out it was at the building on which the helicopter crash landed yesterday. What are the odds, eh!
So have a day in NY to bum around. Have just watched Rory Stewart’s speech and his Q&A. Very impressive. The standout candidate.
If the Tories reject him they are fools. They will, I fear. They are fools.
But I hope Rory will hang on in there for the next time. There is something about him which has been lacking in far too many politicians and which we need in this country.
So you turn up in NY and a helicopter just happens to crash into the building next door, and you say this is just coincidence, Cyclefree?
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And now backing Corbyn's plan. Backing Corbyn is non-starter, but in fairness so is his whole campaign, so that's fine.
And close your eyes in holy dread
For he on honeydew have fed
And found a Brexit compromise
Whichever leadership contender wins it makes little difference to Labour or LD support both of which stay in the 20 to 22% range regardless
How many go forward to the TV debates?
I've put some money on him just now but there's not a prayer.
We're not dealing with the public. We're dealing with Tory members.
Stewart has done well. Boris will be nervous of him.....
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/feb/16/prince-william-appears-to-signal-support-for-remaining-in-eu
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48547524
Ooh, look. I just called him Rory. That is a sign.
"Rory" needs to get to the final two, replacing the lacklustre Hunt as the One Nation, Soft Brexit candidate, versus Boris. He then needs Boris to self-destruct.
Not impossible.
I vote swapped, mine was a Lib/Lab marginal, and my vote swap helped the Tories gain NE Derbyshire from Labour.
https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1138496575041429504
"He pledges to walk through every county in the country if he becomes prime minister, "listening and walking, listening and walking" to ordinary people."
I'll go with him if he does the county tops.
I do think the Labour wheeze will really knock BoZo off the air tomorrow
Radiohead have scuppered a blackmail attempt by releasing 18 hours of music recorded during the making of their classic album OK Computer.
Tapes from the sessions were allegedly stolen last week, with hackers demanding $150,000 for their return.
Instead, the band released the tapes in full, with profits going to climate crisis activists Extinction Rebellion.
"For £18 you can find out if we should have paid that ransom," said guitarist Jonny Greenwood in a statement.
Released in 1997, OK Computer is often called Radiohead's masterpiece - marking a huge sonic leap forward from its equally-beloved predecessor The Bends.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48597096
Boris should be generous, and admiring, and say he would put Stewart in a significant Cabinet position.
https://twitter.com/AlbertoNardelli/status/1138499104445804545
2017 Tory voters back proroguing Parliament to enforce Brexit by 43% to 36%
To make people face reality.
Or some MP mentions it during PMQs?
I'd read that to going for something close to May's-EU deal but I could be wrong.
He's streets ahead of the other candidates and would toast Corbyn. But he won't be chosen by the lunatics who have taken over the asylum.
I don't buy this nonsense of running this time to prepare for the next contest. The time when he can make a difference is now. The country needs him to win.
Why is Buzzfeed trying to drag [E] to a place she does not want to go ?????
In less seriousness, I hope Boris rides a motorbike into an arena to open his event.
So have a day in NY to bum around. Have just watched Rory Stewart’s speech and his Q&A. Very impressive. The standout candidate.
If the Tories reject him they are fools. They will, I fear. They are fools.
But I hope Rory will hang on in there for the next time. There is something about him which has been lacking in far too many politicians and which we need in this country.
Equally I wouldn't be surprised if Rory was leader of the Tories by this time next year...
The Conservatives are in serious danger of a mauling. Is this the right time for Rory?
The Jews turned to the Zealots, and that did not end well.
Each week Rory used to tell a story and was introduced with a song which had the following lyrics.
‘Rory Rory tell us a story. Rory Rory tell it like it is’!!
https://youtu.be/8Y414KH0-fg
https://nostalgiacentral.com/television/tv-by-decade/tv-shows-1970s/animal-kwackers/
He hasn’t done anything like enough to defend Conservatism and draw Remainers and other floating voters to his banner and vision.
Had he squared that he’d have a strong chance of making the final two.
I'd get a good lawyer if I were you.... ;-)