FWIW - Someone earlier was asking about polls. Tonight's Opinium also gives the Tories a 26% lead with them on 54, Lab 28, LD 6, Green 3. Mirrors yesterday's from NCPolitics.
It would be interesting to know what the stats for Italy is. The anecdotal on the ground reporting doesn't give the indication that it is anywhere near 50%. Seems lot of reports where basically they say that bloke other there is the only one in 2 weeks, all the rest are dead or in exactly the same state.
The report does also seem to suggest that a good proportion of those 50% that have died, the doctors didn't think they would make it when they were admitted.
It seems more they are indicating as the tsunami comes, the really old, the really frail, the really sick, all the evidence says have no chance and there will be triage rather than have them on a ventilator for 3 weeks with no likely improvement.
The other somewhat misleading thing about that newspaper article is that it only includes those who died and those discharged. There's a much bigger number still in intensive care - and probably a much higher proportion of those will survive. Many people who die, die quite quickly after being admitted to intensive care, while many survive after spending a long time in intensive care.
It's similar to why we need to look carefully at stats like "50% of those in intensive care with coronavirus are under 50" or whatever. The oldest people are sadly dying quickly in intensive care, whereas younger patients are sometimes in for weeks.
FWIW - Someone earlier was asking about polls. Tonight's Opinium also gives the Tories a 26% lead with them on 54, Lab 28, LD 6, Green 3. Mirrors yesterday's from NCPolitics.
Since the lockdown I've eaten less but drunk more. Anyone else with the same experience?
I'm afraid to say I have drunk more and eaten more. But on the plus side I have exercised more - I have treated the going out once for daily exercise as a requirement rather than a limit.
Need to curtail the eating and drinking though, having read all these reports of BMI being an indicator of Covid-19 survival!
I’m eating loads and drinking loads, but also walking many miles by the sea, every day, and using an exercise bike, and sauna
I’m more physically active than I was pre-lockdown
Sounds less like a lockdown, more like you are training for a boxing match.
500k is based on doing nothing at all. 20k is based on doing what we are currently doing. 5700 is not from Professor Ferguson.
God that is desperately irresponsible. Career ending. Or should be
As well as the naughty / nice list for businesses, we need the same for journalists....some are showing themselves to not only suffer BDS, but actually as thick as two short planks.
Yeah - make them wear yellow stars. How dare they have free speech.
You still think it's all a fuss about nothing because there's 17 suicides a day? And that discriminating against morons for being morons is no different from discriminating against Jews for being Jews?
Japan apparently only using 15% of its testing capacity of 7k per day.....
Edmund???????
Yes, the testing is shit, especially Tokyo which is run by the Japanese Theresa May, who was doing "nothing has changed" right up to the moment she simultaneously announced "there's no more Olympics, hey let's stop leaving our houses".
And having acted early and got detected cases flat, the government then decided to kind of chill for a bit in the later part of March: Hardly any restrictions on people coming in from Europe, unlike the strict restricitions they had on China and South Korea (!)and they announced that they were reopening schools, right before a 3-day weekend, so people took that to mean, "cool, we can stop worrying about this".
That said, IIUC the testing numbers are a bit less terrible in that if you're not connected to a known cluster they tend to first test you with a CT scan, and only do the PCR test if they see tell-tell signs on the lungs. Apparently this is also part of the much-praised Chinese process. And regular flu cases seem to be well down, while deaths didn't particularly spike, so the early reaction (first two weeks of March) really does seem to have worked until they got over-confident and let it slip - it's not just a testing fail.
Let them go bankrupt, the stadiums will still exist and the demand for football will still be there. The best players will get jobs with the new clubs once normality resumes.
That is the argument some on here are making for the rest of the economy, for the small business owner and the high street shop. So why not football as well.
I make that argument about Virgin Atlantic.
And I make that argument because if you can't ever go bankrupt, because the government will bail you out, then it is an optimal strategy to lever up as much as possible.
The reason why wealth inequality has increased in the last ten years is because of wealthy people being able to engage in a massive carry trade: borrow at 3%, invest at 5%. Free money. Oodles of free money. The more you leverage yourself, the richer you become.
If Virgin Atlantic go bust, it is shit for people who have loads of Virgin miles, like me. It's shit for Richard Branson. It's shit for the CEO, and various other people who own shares.
But it does not affect the productive power of the economy. Someone will come along, and buy Virgin Atlantic out of the administrators or recievers.
And even if they don't, then someone will lease some planes (they already exist) and setup a new route from LA to London. The amount of work done in the economy will be the same.
What we will have done, though, is make it clear to the wealthy that they cannot engage, at the public's expense, in a massive carry trade that does nothing for the real economy.
Bailing out Virgin Atlantic is corporatism. It stunk in the 1970s. And it stinks now. It doesn't save jobs, it merely encourages the uber-wealthy to borrow, borrow, borrow, borrow.
In normal circumstances I'd 100% agree. When its businesses that have failed they should go under - whether that be Monarch or Thomas Cook or FlyBe or however many others.
What we're seeing now is a government-mandated shutdown that goes beyond the realms of what businesses or individuals cater for.
If the government tells a profitable company that it can no longer operate because they're going to build a railway track through the land the company runs on do the shareholders just lose out? No, there has to be a compulsory purchase order with fair market value compensation. This is the same thing but temporary rather than permanent. The businesses haven't failed through any fault or malfeasance, the government has shut them down so the government owes compensation.
The government will reject on the grounds of 'force majeure' just as insurers are rejecting claims
The government should take responsibility for the 'force majeure' since its their decision.
We could have just continued to trade normally, taken the risk, seen plenty of economically inactive elderly folks especially die - many of whom would have died before long anyway - and the collapse of the NHS. If the government wishes to enforce a shutdown then it should take responsibility for its choice.
Words fail me
Why?
I'm saying the right decision was made to put healthcare over the economy - despite all my instincts normally being the opposite. But the government needs to own up to that choice and all it entails.
I really do not see how you can expect HMG to bail out companies because of a pandemic
They already are doing schemes to do so. Waiving NNDR taxes, paying furloughed employees wages, paying self-employed wages, paying grants, paying to support loans. That's a lot they're doing already.
For companies that have been profitable and regularly paying taxes an index-linked loan based upon recent corporation tax contributions to be repaid via future corporation tax (like the student loan system) could be a good idea. Also looking at NNDR etc for other businesses than those who've already seen it waived.
500k is based on doing nothing at all. 20k is based on doing what we are currently doing. 5700 is not from Professor Ferguson.
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Hitchens is a complete fucking idiot.
500k was doing nothing "herd immunity". 250k was for mitigation, which was ditched when the government got those figures. 20k was for suppression.
If the figures change it will be because the data going into the model improves. We should pray that the forecasts do come down, because we surely do not want them to go upwards.
Hitchens is clearly going hard with his theory that Boris is a closet Stalinist autocrat who has seized on discredited science to launch a coup.
Let them go bankrupt, the stadiums will still exist and the demand for football will still be there. The best players will get jobs with the new clubs once normality resumes.
That is the argument some on here are making for the rest of the economy, for the small business owner and the high street shop. So why not football as well.
I make that argument about Virgin Atlantic.
And I make that argument because if you can't ever go bankrupt, because the government will bail you out, then it is an optimal strategy to lever up as much as possible.
The reason why wealth inequality has increased in the last ten years is because of wealthy people being able to engage in a massive carry trade: borrow at 3%, invest at 5%. Free money. Oodles of free money. The more you leverage yourself, the richer you become.
If Virgin Atlantic go bust, it is shit for people who have loads of Virgin miles, like me. It's shit for Richard Branson. It's shit for the CEO, and various other people who own shares.
But it does not affect the productive power of the economy. Someone will come along, and buy Virgin Atlantic out of the administrators or recievers.
And even if they don't, then someone will lease some planes (they already exist) and setup a new route from LA to London. The amount of work done in the economy will be the same.
What we will have done, though, is make it clear to the wealthy that they cannot engage, at the public's expense, in a massive carry trade that does nothing for the real economy.
Bailing out Virgin Atlantic is corporatism. It stunk in the 1970s. And it stinks now. It doesn't save jobs, it merely encourages the uber-wealthy to borrow, borrow, borrow, borrow.
In normal circumstances I'd 100% agree. When its businesses that have failed they should go under - whether that be Monarch or Thomas Cook or FlyBe or however many others.
What we're seeing now is a government-mandated shutdown that goes beyond the realms of what businesses or individuals cater for.
If the government tells a profitable company that it can no longer operate because they're going to build a railway track through the land the company runs on do the shareholders just lose out? No, there has to be a compulsory purchase order with fair market value compensation. This is the same thing but temporary rather than permanent. The businesses haven't failed through any fault or malfeasance, the government has shut them down so the government owes compensation.
Firms can - and should - take out insurance to cover those risks.
Some airlines and football teams took out insurance to cover these risks. Why should their competitors be bailed out.
We infantilise all, when we socialise risk.
If insurance firms are paying out then that is fine by me.
It was my understanding (as someone else also said earlier) that insurance firms were refusing to pay out on grounds of 'force majeure' because of the government's actions. If that's the case then HMG should act like an insurer of last resort for those who've been paying their taxes.
It may be different in the US and the UK, but reinsurers and insurers have warned that they are facing big bills under "business continuity insurance".
500k is based on doing nothing at all. 20k is based on doing what we are currently doing. 5700 is not from Professor Ferguson.
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Hitchens is a complete fucking idiot.
500k was doing nothing "herd immunity". 250k was for mitigation, which was ditched when the government got those figures. 20k was for suppression.
If the figures change it will be because the data going into the model improves. We should pray that the forecasts do come down, because we surely do not want them to go upwards.
Hitchens is clearly going hard with his theory that Boris is a closet Stalinist autocrat who had seized on discredited science to launch a coup.
As conspiracy theories go, I think David Icke's lizard people running the world is more believable.
Since the lockdown I've eaten less but drunk more. Anyone else with the same experience?
I'm afraid to say I have drunk more and eaten more. But on the plus side I have exercised more - I have treated the going out once for daily exercise as a requirement rather than a limit.
Need to curtail the eating and drinking though, having read all these reports of BMI being an indicator of Covid-19 survival!
I’m eating loads and drinking loads, but also walking many miles by the sea, every day, and using an exercise bike, and sauna
I’m more physically active than I was pre-lockdown
If that's the case then HMG should act like an insurer of last resort for those who've been paying their taxes.
This is PRECISELY what it is doing with business and particularly the self employed.
Exactly and I support that. They should continue to look at what else (if anything) needs doing along the lines of what they are already doing. If the government is putting a profitable tax-paying business out of business then something has gone wrong.
Are we allowed to lambaste him, like the media have Boris, in that clearly if he has, he hasn't been practising proper social distancing etc?
In the same way that the Prime Minister rightly has priority for a test for Covid-19, more is rightly expected of the Prime Minister when following government rules on social distancing.
I hope both Boris Johnson and Jon Stone get well soon.
Didn’t take long for the lockdown to be turned into a festival of virtue signalling and shaming of others less pious in their lockdown.
The ultimate temperance movement.
Being thinner, with healthy liver and full to the brim with vitamins are a Darwinian survival mechanism, more immediately applicable today than many years.
500k is based on doing nothing at all. 20k is based on doing what we are currently doing. 5700 is not from Professor Ferguson.
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Hitchens is a complete fucking idiot.
500k was doing nothing "herd immunity". 250k was for mitigation, which was ditched when the government got those figures. 20k was for suppression.
If the figures change it will be because the data going into the model improves. We should pray that the forecasts do come down, because we surely do not want them to go upwards.
Hitchens is clearly going hard with his theory that Boris is a closet Stalinist autocrat who has seized on discredited science to launch a coup.
Hitchens is a hack who will consistently go against whatever Boris does. As he did with Cameron.
If Boris had gone down the "keep business open, whoever dies dies, we'll quickly get herd immunity" route then Hitchens would be screaming at Boris like Piers Morgan.
The Range is open? Had no idea... If they're allowed to be open, they sell paint and lamps. If paint and lamps shouldn't be bought perhaps the government should instruct them to close.
Didn’t take long for the lockdown to be turned into a festival of virtue signalling and shaming of others less pious in their lockdown.
The ultimate temperance movement.
Being thinner, with healthy liver and full to the brim with vitamins are a Darwinian survival mechanism, more immediately applicable today than many years.
Is there any medicinal benefit to multivitamins? If you're having a restricted diet to try and get thinner then can they fill the void of any missed nutrition or does it not work that way?
Since the lockdown I've eaten less but drunk more. Anyone else with the same experience?
I'm afraid to say I have drunk more and eaten more. But on the plus side I have exercised more - I have treated the going out once for daily exercise as a requirement rather than a limit.
Need to curtail the eating and drinking though, having read all these reports of BMI being an indicator of Covid-19 survival!
I’m eating loads and drinking loads, but also walking many miles by the sea, every day, and using an exercise bike, and sauna
I’m more physically active than I was pre-lockdown
By June if 22 lads and a referee who have all tested that they have had the virus or don’t have the virus want to have a game filmed for tv - why the hell not ?
If people were rational, perhaps, but no doubt many would use it as an excuse for a piss-up.
They could have a piss up now with a recording of a match.
Not quite the same, is it?
No - but neither is closed doors footballl.
But we need to take some risks to get back to normality and sport on the tv would help.
Before the NHS takes command of the country like Skynet or whatever.
Lock up the boomers and let the rest of us get on with it.
A really drastic solution might be to offer to deliberately infect everyone under the age of 60 who volunteers to be infected. You go to the clinic, a doctor ensures you are not high risk/vulnerable/no pre-existing conditions, you get infected, you wait it out for two weeks (potentially in a secure facility - plenty of empty hotels knocking about), you go back to normal.
The Range is open? Had no idea... If they're allowed to be open, they sell paint and lamps. If paint and lamps shouldn't be bought perhaps the government should instruct them to close.
I imagine it could make sense to have DIY stores open as it gives people something to do while at home. Get some paint etc and start a DIY project that could keep you busy and occupied (and not going to the beach etc) for the coming weeks.
Since I'm stuck at home I've started some DIY projects but got my bits and pieces from Amazon.
Let them go bankrupt, the stadiums will still exist and the demand for football will still be there. The best players will get jobs with the new clubs once normality resumes.
That is the argument some on here are making for the rest of the economy, for the small business owner and the high street shop. So why not football as well.
I make that argument about Virgin Atlantic.
And I make that argument because if you can't ever go bankrupt, because the government will bail you out, then it is an optimal strategy to lever up as much as possible.
The reason why wealth inequality has increased in the last ten years is because of wealthy people being able to engage in a massive carry trade: borrow at 3%, invest at 5%. Free money. Oodles of free money. The more you leverage yourself, the richer you become.
If Virgin Atlantic go bust, it is shit for people who have loads of Virgin miles, like me. It's shit for Richard Branson. It's shit for the CEO, and various other people who own shares.
But it does not affect the productive power of the economy. Someone will come along, and buy Virgin Atlantic out of the administrators or recievers.
And even if they don't, then someone will lease some planes (they already exist) and setup a new route from LA to London. The amount of work done in the economy will be the same.
What we will have done, though, is make it clear to the wealthy that they cannot engage, at the public's expense, in a massive carry trade that does nothing for the real economy.
Bailing out Virgin Atlantic is corporatism. It stunk in the 1970s. And it stinks now. It doesn't save jobs, it merely encourages the uber-wealthy to borrow, borrow, borrow, borrow.
In normal circumstances I'd 100% agree. When its businesses that have failed they should go under - whether that be Monarch or Thomas Cook or FlyBe or however many others.
What we're seeing now is a government-mandated shutdown that goes beyond the realms of what businesses or individuals cater for.
If the government tells a profitable company that it can no longer operate because they're going to build a railway track through the land the company runs on do the shareholders just lose out? No, there has to be a compulsory purchase order with fair market value compensation. This is the same thing but temporary rather than permanent. The businesses haven't failed through any fault or malfeasance, the government has shut them down so the government owes compensation.
Firms can - and should - take out insurance to cover those risks.
Some airlines and football teams took out insurance to cover these risks. Why should their competitors be bailed out.
We infantilise all, when we socialise risk.
If insurance firms are paying out then that is fine by me.
It was my understanding (as someone else also said earlier) that insurance firms were refusing to pay out on grounds of 'force majeure' because of the government's actions. If that's the case then HMG should act like an insurer of last resort for those who've been paying their taxes.
It may be different in the US and the UK, but reinsurers and insurers have warned that they are facing big bills under "business continuity insurance".
I doubt it is a national thing, more that different policy wordings cover different things. You can get policies which cover loss of business because of government curfew, and doubtless other loss of business policies which exclude curfews as "force majeure". You get the coverage you pay for.
Drove into town earlier to collect takeaway. Hardly any vehicles on the road, no pedestrians. Very very spooky. Takeaway run off their feet with orders...
Didn’t take long for the lockdown to be turned into a festival of virtue signalling and shaming of others less pious in their lockdown.
The ultimate temperance movement.
Being thinner, with healthy liver and full to the brim with vitamins are a Darwinian survival mechanism, more immediately applicable today than many years.
Is there any medicinal benefit to multivitamins? If you're having a restricted diet to try and get thinner then can they fill the void of any missed nutrition or does it not work that way?
I’ve taken large doses of Vitamin B as a hangover preventative for years
500k is based on doing nothing at all. 20k is based on doing what we are currently doing. 5700 is not from Professor Ferguson.
God that is desperately irresponsible. Career ending. Or should be
As well as the naughty / nice list for businesses, we need the same for journalists....some are showing themselves to not only suffer BDS, but actually as thick as two short planks.
Yeah - make them wear yellow stars. How dare they have free speech.
No one is saying they shouldn't be allowed to speak their infantile little minds. All people are saying is that when they vomit out such ill informed garbage they should be called out on it and we should make sure that later on they are not allowed to just walk away and pretend they never said these things.
Free speech applies both ways. If he wants to behave like a tosser then we should be free to point out that he is a tosser. Often.
Are we allowed to lambaste him, like the media have Boris, in that clearly if he has, he hasn't been practising proper social distancing etc?
In the same way that the Prime Minister rightly has priority for a test for Covid-19, more is rightly expected of the Prime Minister when following government rules on social distancing.
I hope both Boris Johnson and Jon Stone get well soon.
I'd suggest less leeway is given to the PM when it comes to social distancing.
Remember the press conference recently when the PM said that future press conferences could have to be done via video - and the press were outraged and angry how could they ask questions then? As if they're not interviewing people by video all the time at the minute.
Didn’t take long for the lockdown to be turned into a festival of virtue signalling and shaming of others less pious in their lockdown.
The ultimate temperance movement.
Being thinner, with healthy liver and full to the brim with vitamins are a Darwinian survival mechanism, more immediately applicable today than many years.
Is there any medicinal benefit to multivitamins? If you're having a restricted diet to try and get thinner then can they fill the void of any missed nutrition or does it not work that way?
I would certainly recommend zinc, but fish oils are good too. After that it is less clear.
Didn’t take long for the lockdown to be turned into a festival of virtue signalling and shaming of others less pious in their lockdown.
The ultimate temperance movement.
Being thinner, with healthy liver and full to the brim with vitamins are a Darwinian survival mechanism, more immediately applicable today than many years.
Is there any medicinal benefit to multivitamins? If you're having a restricted diet to try and get thinner then can they fill the void of any missed nutrition or does it not work that way?
I’ve taken large doses of Vitamin B as a hangover preventative for years
I've never really suffered from hangovers. Don't know why.
If I drink to excess (and I often did as a student) then I get memory blackouts. I don't get hangovers though. I don't drink to excess often anymore.
By June if 22 lads and a referee who have all tested that they have had the virus or don’t have the virus want to have a game filmed for tv - why the hell not ?
If people were rational, perhaps, but no doubt many would use it as an excuse for a piss-up.
They could have a piss up now with a recording of a match.
Not quite the same, is it?
No - but neither is closed doors footballl.
But we need to take some risks to get back to normality and sport on the tv would help.
Before the NHS takes command of the country like Skynet or whatever.
Lock up the boomers and let the rest of us get on with it.
A really drastic solution might be to offer to deliberately infect everyone under the age of 60 who volunteers to be infected. You go to the clinic, a doctor ensures you are not high risk/vulnerable/no pre-existing conditions, you get infected, you wait it out for two weeks (potentially in a secure facility - plenty of empty hotels knocking about), you go back to normal.
A: The big mistake in the U.S. and Europe, in my opinion, is that people aren’t wearing masks. This virus is transmitted by droplets and close contact. Droplets play a very important role—you’ve got to wear a mask, because when you speak, there are always droplets coming out of your mouth. Many people have asymptomatic or presymptomatic infections. If they are wearing face masks, it can prevent droplets that carry the virus from escaping and infecting others.
We currently have even fewer cases per head than South Korea where they wear plenty of masks but the restaurants and bars are still open, keeping 2 metres from others and only going out for exercise or to buy food to take home is probably more important.
The testing the South Koreans did early and often is probably more important
I think number of deaths is a more robust figure for comparison. UK has 5 times as many deaths per capita as South Korea.
Maybe but that is irrelevant in terms of masks, which only stop the spread of coronavirus a bit, they do not affect the death rate from it once you have it. The number of ventilators you have in your health service and the rate of smoking amongst the population is more relevant to the death rate
You misunderstand me. I'm not claiming wearing a mask is a cure! I'm saying the death rate is a better estimate of the number of infections (where epidemics started at the same time, and if anything, it seems likely there were lots of infections in s Korea before the UK, their first confirmed case was 11 days earlier) than the number of positive tests. In other words it is very likely the UK has many more actual infections per capita than s Korea, rather than fewer as you are claiming.
For my mind Band of Brothers is perhaps the best TV series ever made.
The Pacific I think really did fail to live up to its Band of Brothers predecessor. Perhaps because rather than just concentrating on one identifiable unit so you grew to know and empathise with the men, it instead tried to cover all the many different parts of the Pacific war and amalgamated stories and people so you lost the immediacy and the personal touch that was so obvious in BoB.
500k is based on doing nothing at all. 20k is based on doing what we are currently doing. 5700 is not from Professor Ferguson.
God that is desperately irresponsible. Career ending. Or should be
As well as the naughty / nice list for businesses, we need the same for journalists....some are showing themselves to not only suffer BDS, but actually as thick as two short planks.
Yeah - make them wear yellow stars. How dare they have free speech.
No one is saying they shouldn't be allowed to speak their infantile little minds. All people are saying is that when they vomit out such ill informed garbage they should be called out on it and we should make sure that later on they are not allowed to just walk away and pretend they never said these things.
Free speech applies both ways. If he wants to behave like a tosser then we should be free to point out that he is a tosser. Often.
Didn’t take long for the lockdown to be turned into a festival of virtue signalling and shaming of others less pious in their lockdown.
The ultimate temperance movement.
Being thinner, with healthy liver and full to the brim with vitamins are a Darwinian survival mechanism, more immediately applicable today than many years.
Is there any medicinal benefit to multivitamins? If you're having a restricted diet to try and get thinner then can they fill the void of any missed nutrition or does it not work that way?
I’ve taken large doses of Vitamin B as a hangover preventative for years
I've never really suffered from hangovers. Don't know why.
If I drink to excess (and I often did as a student) then I get memory blackouts. I don't get hangovers though. I don't drink to excess often anymore.
Might depend on what you drink. I haven't had a really bad hangover since I stopped drinking real ale.
The Range is open? Had no idea... If they're allowed to be open, they sell paint and lamps. If paint and lamps shouldn't be bought perhaps the government should instruct them to close.
I imagine it could make sense to have DIY stores open as it gives people something to do while at home. Get some paint etc and start a DIY project that could keep you busy and occupied (and not going to the beach etc) for the coming weeks.
Since I'm stuck at home I've started some DIY projects but got my bits and pieces from Amazon.
Went to B&Q last weekend. Have various projects underway or materials bought for. You take my point though. People shopping. At a store allowed to be open by the government. Is not some opportunity to shame people doing what they are allowed to do.
Didn’t take long for the lockdown to be turned into a festival of virtue signalling and shaming of others less pious in their lockdown.
The ultimate temperance movement.
There's a feeling that, for instance, Derbyshire Police have gone over the top in doing things like dyeing a lake black to stop people from visiting it.
Drove into town earlier to collect takeaway. Hardly any vehicles on the road, no pedestrians. Very very spooky. Takeaway run off their feet with orders...
Walked past a takeaway place earlier and saw six or seven drivers on mopeds waiting and chatting with zero social distancing, that just confirmed it as another thing off my list for the duration.
Recommended: I watched the movie CONTAGION last night
It’s a poor movie, as a movie: unfleshed out characters, weak sub plots, listless dialogue in places.
But as a piece of clairvoyant science-based docudrama it is amazing. Really prescient.
As I said last night, it is fascinating to hear terms used that we have now become so familiar with - like social distancing. Something that passed me by completely when I originally watched the film.
For my mind Band of Brothers is perhaps the best TV series ever made.
The Pacific I think really did fail to live up to its Band of Brothers predecessor. Perhaps because rather than just concentrating on one identifiable unit so you grew to know and empathise with the men, it instead tried to cover all the many different parts of the Pacific war and amalgamated stories and people so you lost the immediacy and the personal touch that was so obvious in BoB.
Didn’t take long for the lockdown to be turned into a festival of virtue signalling and shaming of others less pious in their lockdown.
The ultimate temperance movement.
Being thinner, with healthy liver and full to the brim with vitamins are a Darwinian survival mechanism, more immediately applicable today than many years.
Is there any medicinal benefit to multivitamins? If you're having a restricted diet to try and get thinner then can they fill the void of any missed nutrition or does it not work that way?
I’ve taken large doses of Vitamin B as a hangover preventative for years
I've never really suffered from hangovers. Don't know why.
If I drink to excess (and I often did as a student) then I get memory blackouts. I don't get hangovers though. I don't drink to excess often anymore.
Might depend on what you drink. I haven't had a really bad hangover since I stopped drinking real ale.
That was my problem I never got hangovers so just kept going
Recommended: I watched the movie CONTAGION last night
It’s a poor movie, as a movie: unfleshed out characters, weak sub plots, listless dialogue in places.
But as a piece of clairvoyant science-based docudrama it is amazing. Really prescient.
I've just watched Die Hard 2 for the first time tonight.
It is definitely a Christmas movie.
1. It is set at Christmas time 2. Christmas is an essential plot devise - crowded airport, lots of snow, parcels 3. The last words are "It's Christmas" followed by Big Crosby singing Let It Snow 4. It is a comedy.
Recommended: I watched the movie CONTAGION last night
It’s a poor movie, as a movie: unfleshed out characters, weak sub plots, listless dialogue in places.
But as a piece of clairvoyant science-based docudrama it is amazing. Really prescient.
I've just watched Die Hard 2 for the first time tonight.
It is definitely a Christmas movie.
1. It is set at Christmas time 2. Christmas is an essential plot devise - crowded airport, lots of snow, parcels 3. The last words are "It's Christmas" followed by Big Crosby singing Let It Snow 4. It is a comedy.
Recommended: I watched the movie CONTAGION last night
It’s a poor movie, as a movie: unfleshed out characters, weak sub plots, listless dialogue in places.
But as a piece of clairvoyant science-based docudrama it is amazing. Really prescient.
I've just watched Die Hard 2 for the first time tonight.
It is definitely a Christmas movie.
1. It is set at Christmas time 2. Christmas is an essential plot devise - crowded airport, lots of snow, parcels 3. The last words are "It's Christmas" followed by Big Crosby singing Let It Snow 4. It is a comedy.
Recommended: I watched the movie CONTAGION last night
It’s a poor movie, as a movie: unfleshed out characters, weak sub plots, listless dialogue in places.
But as a piece of clairvoyant science-based docudrama it is amazing. Really prescient.
I've just watched Die Hard 2 for the first time tonight.
It is definitely a Christmas movie.
1. It is set at Christmas time 2. Christmas is an essential plot devise - crowded airport, lots of snow, parcels 3. The last words are "It's Christmas" followed by Big Crosby singing Let It Snow 4. It is a comedy.
If we can't guarantee next season can take place uninterrupted then it'd be absurd to void this season. Just continue this season next season. Better one two-year season than no seasons for two years.
Other sports face similar problems - rugby union, horse racing as well.
The PL and Championship have nine rounds of matches outstanding which wouldn't be too bad - four weeks of two games a week plus one final round so achievable.
The problem is you also have three rounds of FA Cup and European matches to complete.
We're looking at six weeks of 2-3 games per week for some teams and 1-2 for others so start mid June end late July and start the new season without a break. It might be achievable, it might not.
Matches played behind closed doors under tight security to begin with perhaps with relaxation later on.
For horse racing the flat season will need to be re-considered. The Guineas looks doubtful (early May) but the Derby and Ascot (which are as much social as sporting occasions and therefore staging them without spectators seems impractical) are June.
Oddly enough, the large events in each sport look more vulnerable than the day-to-day. Horse racing re-commencing at smaller fixtures behind closed doors in early May looks feasible subject to medical cover so a midweek Lingfield card would be a better option than Chester or the Dante meeting at York?
If you play behind locked doors groups of people will inevitably go down the off license and gather to watch on TV. Shouldn' t heath and controlling the virus be the overwhelming priority rather than trying to complete what is, after all said and done, a game?
Didn’t take long for the lockdown to be turned into a festival of virtue signalling and shaming of others less pious in their lockdown.
The ultimate temperance movement.
Being thinner, with healthy liver and full to the brim with vitamins are a Darwinian survival mechanism, more immediately applicable today than many years.
Is there any medicinal benefit to multivitamins? If you're having a restricted diet to try and get thinner then can they fill the void of any missed nutrition or does it not work that way?
I’ve taken large doses of Vitamin B as a hangover preventative for years
I've never really suffered from hangovers. Don't know why.
If I drink to excess (and I often did as a student) then I get memory blackouts. I don't get hangovers though. I don't drink to excess often anymore.
Me neither. My theory is that like native Americans I lack the enzyme which metabolises alcohol so when I get drunk I just stay drunk. This is a problem and is why I haven't had a drink since 2005.
Didn’t take long for the lockdown to be turned into a festival of virtue signalling and shaming of others less pious in their lockdown.
The ultimate temperance movement.
There's a feeling that, for instance, Derbyshire Police have gone over the top in doing things like dyeing a lake black to stop people from visiting it.
Which might actually make them more likely to visit to take pictures....
Since the lockdown I've eaten less but drunk more. Anyone else with the same experience?
I'm afraid to say I have drunk more and eaten more. But on the plus side I have exercised more - I have treated the going out once for daily exercise as a requirement rather than a limit.
Need to curtail the eating and drinking though, having read all these reports of BMI being an indicator of Covid-19 survival!
I’m eating loads and drinking loads, but also walking many miles by the sea, every day, and using an exercise bike, and sauna
I’m more physically active than I was pre-lockdown
The Royal Mint is to manufacture up to 4,000 medical visors per day to help protect NHS staff from the coronavirus.
Engineers developed a successful prototype in 48 hours and the first visors are already in use at a hospital in Wales. Since news of the visor production emerged, the Royal Mint has received requests to supply hospitals across the UK.
Production is now moving to 24 hours a day, seven days a week at the Royal Mint's site in Llantrisant, south Wales. A total of 750 visors were made on Saturday and the team is aiming to increase this to 4,000 per day from Tuesday.
By June if 22 lads and a referee who have all tested that they have had the virus or don’t have the virus want to have a game filmed for tv - why the hell not ?
If people were rational, perhaps, but no doubt many would use it as an excuse for a piss-up.
They could have a piss up now with a recording of a match.
Not quite the same, is it?
No - but neither is closed doors footballl.
But we need to take some risks to get back to normality and sport on the tv would help.
Before the NHS takes command of the country like Skynet or whatever.
Lock up the boomers and let the rest of us get on with it.
A really drastic solution might be to offer to deliberately infect everyone under the age of 60 who volunteers to be infected. You go to the clinic, a doctor ensures you are not high risk/vulnerable/no pre-existing conditions, you get infected, you wait it out for two weeks (potentially in a secure facility - plenty of empty hotels knocking about), you go back to normal.
I'd volunteer.
Have you signed up for the vaccine trial yet ?
Went and looked it up. I'm not in the trial region, otherwise I'd do it - though not if it interefered with my work (as far as I am aware, they are just vaccinating people then letting them get on with their daily lives, so it wouldn't?)
At the moment my employer considers me critical to the business, so my main task is helping to keep things afloat so that our furloughed workers have a job to come back to, when this is all over. It's not much, but I'm aware that many jobs will depend on me working my socks off over the next few weeks and months.
The Royal Mint is to manufacture up to 4,000 medical visors per day to help protect NHS staff from the coronavirus.
Engineers developed a successful prototype in 48 hours and the first visors are already in use at a hospital in Wales. Since news of the visor production emerged, the Royal Mint has received requests to supply hospitals across the UK.
Production is now moving to 24 hours a day, seven days a week at the Royal Mint's site in Llantrisant, south Wales. A total of 750 visors were made on Saturday and the team is aiming to increase this to 4,000 per day from Tuesday.
Will they be limited to one per post code? (Sorrycouldnt resist that) well done to them
Didn’t take long for the lockdown to be turned into a festival of virtue signalling and shaming of others less pious in their lockdown.
The ultimate temperance movement.
There's a feeling that, for instance, Derbyshire Police have gone over the top in doing things like dyeing a lake black to stop people from visiting it.
Which might actually make them more likely to visit to take pictures....
And the sort of action police would prosecute others for doing.
The Royal Mint is to manufacture up to 4,000 medical visors per day to help protect NHS staff from the coronavirus.
Engineers developed a successful prototype in 48 hours and the first visors are already in use at a hospital in Wales. Since news of the visor production emerged, the Royal Mint has received requests to supply hospitals across the UK.
Production is now moving to 24 hours a day, seven days a week at the Royal Mint's site in Llantrisant, south Wales. A total of 750 visors were made on Saturday and the team is aiming to increase this to 4,000 per day from Tuesday.
Hopefully there are other firms that can also use this design and knock out copies.
FPT for @MattW So you should have a support at each end of a row of canes and maybe one in the middle depending on how long the row is.
The wire should be tied to the supports horizontally - at 3 levels near the bottom, middle and top. The raspberry plants you then train laterally along these wires.
Some time in late spring you should thin out your raspberry canes (in the case of summer fruiting ones) so that you have about 6, no more than 8 per plant and these as they grow will be tied to the wires.
For autumn fruiting raspberries cut the canes down to the ground in February and as they grow do the same.
Essentially you are creating a sort of supporting grid for the canes allowing the plants to grow from the new wood and horizontally - because the flowers and fruit will come from the horizontal stems - and making sure that the plants are not too congested, particularly at the base, so as to allow light and air in.
US deaths (currently 2,008) are doubling every 3 days.
If that continues, by Easter they'll be at 64,000 deaths.
You only have to look at the scale that NY are preparing for to see how bad it is going to get. We are having the Excel centre, they have 9 of those field hospitals being setup. They say they need 30,000 ventilators and 150,000 beds and the Mayor still basically saying not enough.
The Royal Mint is to manufacture up to 4,000 medical visors per day to help protect NHS staff from the coronavirus.
Engineers developed a successful prototype in 48 hours and the first visors are already in use at a hospital in Wales. Since news of the visor production emerged, the Royal Mint has received requests to supply hospitals across the UK.
Production is now moving to 24 hours a day, seven days a week at the Royal Mint's site in Llantrisant, south Wales. A total of 750 visors were made on Saturday and the team is aiming to increase this to 4,000 per day from Tuesday.
Hopefully there are other firms that can also use this design and knock out copies.
As long as they don't start doing the same with other Royal Mint products.
The Royal Mint is to manufacture up to 4,000 medical visors per day to help protect NHS staff from the coronavirus.
Engineers developed a successful prototype in 48 hours and the first visors are already in use at a hospital in Wales. Since news of the visor production emerged, the Royal Mint has received requests to supply hospitals across the UK.
Production is now moving to 24 hours a day, seven days a week at the Royal Mint's site in Llantrisant, south Wales. A total of 750 visors were made on Saturday and the team is aiming to increase this to 4,000 per day from Tuesday.
Hopefully there are other firms that can also use this design and knock out copies.
As long as they don't start doing the same with other Royal Mint products.
Given the scale of helicopter money being released by the government, I think they will probably need all hands to the pumps for that too.
The Range is open? Had no idea... If they're allowed to be open, they sell paint and lamps. If paint and lamps shouldn't be bought perhaps the government should instruct them to close.
I imagine it could make sense to have DIY stores open as it gives people something to do while at home. Get some paint etc and start a DIY project that could keep you busy and occupied (and not going to the beach etc) for the coming weeks.
Since I'm stuck at home I've started some DIY projects but got my bits and pieces from Amazon.
Went to B&Q last weekend. Have various projects underway or materials bought for. You take my point though. People shopping. At a store allowed to be open by the government. Is not some opportunity to shame people doing what they are allowed to do.
My wife went around the corner a week ago to pick up a prescription. Today several neighbours are saying "we saw you on the local news!". Apparently there was an item about people ignoring the lock down which used week-old footage of people walking down the street. Some of the coverage is pretty silly, surely they can find some real examples of people actually behaving irresponsibly?
It seems this was briefed by Downing Street. Normally you would spin something like this to deflect attention, but as far as I know the government is basking in positives at the moment.
By June if 22 lads and a referee who have all tested that they have had the virus or don’t have the virus want to have a game filmed for tv - why the hell not ?
If the rest of us are still being told we must socially distance and congregate in groups of no more than 2 then the message it would send out would be diastrous. Those of little brain would argue that if it's OK for footballers to do it then it's OK for them. Not to mention that they would all be round someone's house watching it. As I said earlier why is getting back to playing a game of football such a priority?
By June if 22 lads and a referee who have all tested that they have had the virus or don’t have the virus want to have a game filmed for tv - why the hell not ?
If the rest of us are still being told we must socially distance and congregate in groups of no more than 2 then the message it would send out would be diastrous. Those of little brain would argue that if it's OK for footballers to do it then it's OK for them. Not to mention that they would all be round someone's house watching it. As I said earlier why is getting back to playing a game of football such a priority?
The rest of us are being told we can go to work if working from home is not an option.
If people can work at construction sites, why shouldn't footballers go to work?
Recommended: I watched the movie CONTAGION last night
It’s a poor movie, as a movie: unfleshed out characters, weak sub plots, listless dialogue in places.
But as a piece of clairvoyant science-based docudrama it is amazing. Really prescient.
I've just watched Die Hard 2 for the first time tonight.
It is definitely a Christmas movie.
1. It is set at Christmas time 2. Christmas is an essential plot devise - crowded airport, lots of snow, parcels 3. The last words are "It's Christmas" followed by Big Crosby singing Let It Snow 4. It is a comedy.
FPT for @MattW So you should have a support at each end of a row of canes and maybe one in the middle depending on how long the row is.
The wire should be tied to the supports horizontally - at 3 levels near the bottom, middle and top. The raspberry plants you then train laterally along these wires.
Some time in late spring you should thin out your raspberry canes (in the case of summer fruiting ones) so that you have about 6, no more than 8 per plant and these as they grow will be tied to the wires.
For autumn fruiting raspberries cut the canes down to the ground in February and as they grow do the same.
Essentially you are creating a sort of supporting grid for the canes allowing the plants to grow from the new wood and horizontally - because the flowers and fruit will come from the horizontal stems - and making sure that the plants are not too congested, particularly at the base, so as to allow light and air in.
Didn’t take long for the lockdown to be turned into a festival of virtue signalling and shaming of others less pious in their lockdown.
The ultimate temperance movement.
There's a feeling that, for instance, Derbyshire Police have gone over the top in doing things like dyeing a lake black to stop people from visiting it.
Which might actually make them more likely to visit to take pictures....
Didn’t take long for the lockdown to be turned into a festival of virtue signalling and shaming of others less pious in their lockdown.
The ultimate temperance movement.
There's a feeling that, for instance, Derbyshire Police have gone over the top in doing things like dyeing a lake black to stop people from visiting it.
Which might actually make them more likely to visit to take pictures....
Can you link (the current version of) this story, @TGOHF666 ?
Let's bury this. Anybody with that "feeling" is a fool.
It is not a "lake"; it is water in the bottom of a disused quarry near Buxton that - due to the minerals and the left over toxic waste - has a pH of 11.3, the same as Sodium Hydroxide.
The Council has been dyeing it black since 2013 to save idiots that swim in it from their own stupidity. That seems to me more important than pandering to a few happy snappers. The current initiative is the police working with the Council.
The Derbyshire Police, and especially the Notts Police, are sometimes foolish - this is not such an occasion. As someone who lived in Derbyshire for decades I have no problem with this.
A question which I hope is not morbid but is driven by a genuine interest.
Are the deaths amongst the older generation in places like Italy and Spain going to have a noticeable impact on demographics in those countries? Or are the numbers of deaths - terrible as they are at a personal level - simply not enough to really change the ratios between the various ages in any way that will impact on the official figures?
Those PBers looking for some good TV should try Babylon Berlin, starting with series 1. Sensational atmospheric TV and bound to be of interest to politicos.
FPT for @MattW So you should have a support at each end of a row of canes and maybe one in the middle depending on how long the row is.
The wire should be tied to the supports horizontally - at 3 levels near the bottom, middle and top. The raspberry plants you then train laterally along these wires.
Some time in late spring you should thin out your raspberry canes (in the case of summer fruiting ones) so that you have about 6, no more than 8 per plant and these as they grow will be tied to the wires.
For autumn fruiting raspberries cut the canes down to the ground in February and as they grow do the same.
Essentially you are creating a sort of supporting grid for the canes allowing the plants to grow from the new wood and horizontally - because the flowers and fruit will come from the horizontal stems - and making sure that the plants are not too congested, particularly at the base, so as to allow light and air in.
Hope this helps!
Thanks.
So I can put that in the diary for a few weeks'm time. Good.
A question which I hope is not morbid but is driven by a genuine interest.
Are the deaths amongst the older generation in places like Italy and Spain going to have a noticeable impact on demographics in those countries? Or are the numbers of deaths - terrible as they are at a personal level - simply not enough to really change the ratios between the various ages in any way that will impact on the official figures?
So far they're not noteworthy on a grand scheme of things basis. Worth remembering that in Italy 17,000 Italians die from influenza annually - without affecting the demographics in any meaningful way, that's their baseline.
So far 10,000 coronavirus patients have died - and there's likely to be some overlap between those and those who would have died within the 17,000.
If we get to the hundreds of thousand some people quote then it could be meaningful demographically but that seems unlikely even in Italy.
US deaths (currently 2,008) are doubling every 3 days.
If that continues, by Easter they'll be at 64,000 deaths.
At which point big-brain Don Trump wants to rescind the limited measures the US is applying to mitigate the speard of the coronavirus. We are long past the point at which they should install one of Trump's body doubles as the President and let the pros run this.
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It's similar to why we need to look carefully at stats like "50% of those in intensive care with coronavirus are under 50" or whatever. The oldest people are sadly dying quickly in intensive care, whereas younger patients are sometimes in for weeks.
And having acted early and got detected cases flat, the government then decided to kind of chill for a bit in the later part of March: Hardly any restrictions on people coming in from Europe, unlike the strict restricitions they had on China and South Korea (!)and they announced that they were reopening schools, right before a 3-day weekend, so people took that to mean, "cool, we can stop worrying about this".
That said, IIUC the testing numbers are a bit less terrible in that if you're not connected to a known cluster they tend to first test you with a CT scan, and only do the PCR test if they see tell-tell signs on the lungs. Apparently this is also part of the much-praised Chinese process. And regular flu cases seem to be well down, while deaths didn't particularly spike, so the early reaction (first two weeks of March) really does seem to have worked until they got over-confident and let it slip - it's not just a testing fail.
The ultimate temperance movement.
For companies that have been profitable and regularly paying taxes an index-linked loan based upon recent corporation tax contributions to be repaid via future corporation tax (like the student loan system) could be a good idea. Also looking at NNDR etc for other businesses than those who've already seen it waived.
https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/1244009617761370116?s=20
My cousin is in dire trouble. Apparently he was drinking ouzo last night and is eyeing martini bianco tonight.
I hope both Boris Johnson and Jon Stone get well soon.
Band Of Brothers
The Pacific
Das Boot
The Sopranos
Breaking Bad
Narcos/ Narcos Mexico
(£)
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/foreign-language-tv-is-without-the-political-correctness-spoiling-english-drama
If Boris had gone down the "keep business open, whoever dies dies, we'll quickly get herd immunity" route then Hitchens would be screaming at Boris like Piers Morgan.
I'd volunteer.
Since I'm stuck at home I've started some DIY projects but got my bits and pieces from Amazon.
Free speech applies both ways. If he wants to behave like a tosser then we should be free to point out that he is a tosser. Often.
Remember the press conference recently when the PM said that future press conferences could have to be done via video - and the press were outraged and angry how could they ask questions then? As if they're not interviewing people by video all the time at the minute.
If I drink to excess (and I often did as a student) then I get memory blackouts. I don't get hangovers though. I don't drink to excess often anymore.
I'm saying the death rate is a better estimate of the number of infections (where epidemics started at the same time, and if anything, it seems likely there were lots of infections in s Korea before the UK, their first confirmed case was 11 days earlier) than the number of positive tests.
In other words it is very likely the UK has many more actual infections per capita than s Korea, rather than fewer as you are claiming.
The Pacific I think really did fail to live up to its Band of Brothers predecessor. Perhaps because rather than just concentrating on one identifiable unit so you grew to know and empathise with the men, it instead tried to cover all the many different parts of the Pacific war and amalgamated stories and people so you lost the immediacy and the personal touch that was so obvious in BoB.
Trump calls Boris and ..
It is definitely a Christmas movie.
1. It is set at Christmas time
2. Christmas is an essential plot devise - crowded airport, lots of snow, parcels
3. The last words are "It's Christmas" followed by Big Crosby singing Let It Snow
4. It is a comedy.
No question - it is a Christmas movie.
Hmm. Animal rights record? Do I detect the hand of the PM's girlfriend?
Engineers developed a successful prototype in 48 hours and the first visors are already in use at a hospital in Wales. Since news of the visor production emerged, the Royal Mint has received requests to supply hospitals across the UK.
Production is now moving to 24 hours a day, seven days a week at the Royal Mint's site in Llantrisant, south Wales. A total of 750 visors were made on Saturday and the team is aiming to increase this to 4,000 per day from Tuesday.
At the moment my employer considers me critical to the business, so my main task is helping to keep things afloat so that our furloughed workers have a job to come back to, when this is all over. It's not much, but I'm aware that many jobs will depend on me working my socks off over the next few weeks and months.
Clearly Dyson think that ventilators could be a new avenue for them.
If that continues, by Easter they'll be at 64,000 deaths.
FPT for @MattW So you should have a support at each end of a row of canes and maybe one in the middle depending on how long the row is.
The wire should be tied to the supports horizontally - at 3 levels near the bottom, middle and top. The raspberry plants you then train laterally along these wires.
Some time in late spring you should thin out your raspberry canes (in the case of summer fruiting ones) so that you have about 6, no more than 8 per plant and these as they grow will be tied to the wires.
For autumn fruiting raspberries cut the canes down to the ground in February and as they grow do the same.
Essentially you are creating a sort of supporting grid for the canes allowing the plants to grow from the new wood and horizontally - because the flowers and fruit will come from the horizontal stems - and making sure that the plants are not too congested, particularly at the base, so as to allow light and air in.
Hope this helps!
If people can work at construction sites, why shouldn't footballers go to work?
Paul Leivers, 48, admitted two counts of assault on an emergency worker after being arrested in Mansfield on Thursday."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8163401/Man-48-spat-police-officers-claiming-coronavirus-symptoms-jailed-year.html
And looking at your photo you have some pretty good supports there already so concentrate on the lateral wires.
Let's bury this. Anybody with that "feeling" is a fool.
It is not a "lake"; it is water in the bottom of a disused quarry near Buxton that - due to the minerals and the left over toxic waste - has a pH of 11.3, the same as Sodium Hydroxide.
The Council has been dyeing it black since 2013 to save idiots that swim in it from their own stupidity. That seems to me more important than pandering to a few happy snappers. The current initiative is the police working with the Council.
It seems to work - a good example of nudge theory.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/blue-lagoon-of-buxton
The Derbyshire Police, and especially the Notts Police, are sometimes foolish - this is not such an occasion. As someone who lived in Derbyshire for decades I have no problem with this.
Are the deaths amongst the older generation in places like Italy and Spain going to have a noticeable impact on demographics in those countries? Or are the numbers of deaths - terrible as they are at a personal level - simply not enough to really change the ratios between the various ages in any way that will impact on the official figures?
So I can put that in the diary for a few weeks'm time. Good.
So far 10,000 coronavirus patients have died - and there's likely to be some overlap between those and those who would have died within the 17,000.
If we get to the hundreds of thousand some people quote then it could be meaningful demographically but that seems unlikely even in Italy.