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Earlier in the day Farage published a pic of himself on Twitter drinking a pint. This led to claims on Twitter that he shouldn’t have been in the pub at all. He should still be in quarantine following his trip to the US to be part of Trump Tulsa rally.
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Edit. First, like day of pub related infection.
On topic - Farage thrives on publicity - but this story won't get much traction as the front pages are covered in 'Pubs Open' stories.
So are people who waste Police time window twitching against political opponents.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-53271201
Unusually the public reaction has not split on Orange/Green lines but Sinn Fein Vs everyone else.
It all sounds very different to what's been going on in our neck of the woods. I mean, it may have gone from relatively quiet when I was in town this afternoon to the last days of Sodom and Gomorrah tonight for all I know, but it seems unlikely.
Anyway, if all this activity is going to cause any more harm than the mass sunbathing outbreaks, the reopening of the shops and the BLM demos did, then we won't have to wait long to find out. I would've thought that the testing and 111 call data should start to show significant evidence of a resurgence in about a week's time.
Ed Davey, meanwhile, needs to remind voters that the Lib Dems exist, so he'll also be happy, even though the police are extremely unlikely to take action against someone who was only a couple of days from completing quarantine.
So everyone's happy, and the overall level of cynicism in politics ratchets up another notch.
Alcohol has been banned in a London park after "weeks of unacceptably high levels of litter, public urination and defecation and disturbance to local people", a council has said.
Hackney Council said thousands of people had been using London Fields, with DJs "setting up sound systems".
An injunction making the consumption of alcohol and littering a criminal offence was granted on Friday.
It will initially be in place for a week.
The council said the ban would enforced by its officers and the police.
Mayor of Hackney Philip Glanville said: "London Fields is not a festival site - it's a vital green space for everyone.
"We've heard so many stories from local people - many with no outside space of their own - who feel excluded from the park and whose lives are being made a misery because of littering, urinating, defecating and drunken behaviour."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53287150
It will take a while longer for this to sink in. To go back to normal will require sacrifices to be made, unless we are very lucky. There is no chance of that happening right now. Meanwhile enjoy your visits to the pub, those of you who are going, as it will be fun for a while.
OFF Topic - re USA
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SeaShanty I know you are local to it. Is the fact that Biden is past it a factor?
Only when he makes a gaffe, which he's bound to do occasionally cause that's just our Joe, been doing it since Neil Kinnock's day if you recall. Fact that he's also a geezer compounds the issue. But then Trumpsky ain't no spring chicken - and personally when forced to choose will take a malapropist over a sociopath any day.
Think real question will NOT be if Biden will bungle; we already know the answer. Real question, is, will he do it in an especially bad way or very inopportune moment - say a serous mis-statement in a debate (such as Gerald Ford's assertion that Poland was NOT under Soviet domination in 1976). OR standing on a (virtual of course) live stage and blanking out.
However, please note our Joe has a record of rising to the occasion and meeting the challenge. THIS is the biggest challenge of his life, and he will give it everything he's got in him - and then some.
Yes, the strain will be tremendous. But this is a man who won an amazing upset victory to become senator - only to have his wife and daughter die tragically and nearly break him (just like the same thing nearly broke Theodore Roosevelt). Who saw his first attempt for the presidency blow up thanks to his own folly, yet remained a powerful, effective US Senator. Who had another child, a son who was a rising star in politics, died young from illness.
You can judge Joe Biden anyway you like. But weak? Don't bet on it.
After all, a picture IS worth (at least) a thousand words.
Is this a sign for Texas ... ?
https://twitter.com/roseficke/status/1279137994335649793
https://twitter.com/NathanBenaich/status/1279524171710513152?s=20
Not a lot of mask action going on.
I don’t know how many of the vaccines in development will produce an antibody response to this target (the old style inactivated virus ones, probably):
https://twitter.com/ScienceMagazine/status/1279505280833777664
Farage? He's a boy! As we say in Wales.
It is a big mystery
This BBC article muses on masks, obesity, testing, diabetes, previous experience with SARS, but doesn't really find an answer
Perhaps it is just IQ. Average Japanese IQ is noticeably higher than western countries.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-53188847
As with a mechanical engine, 100% efficiency and 0% error is unattainable. Plus there needs to be some slack in the system so it doesn't shake itself apart. AND some way to blow off some excess steam before it explodes the boiler.
May sound like yelling into deaf ears, but education & persuasion - messaging if you like - remains key. "If you catch the Covid, it's your grandmother who may die."
Short, NOT sweet but true as it gets.
Which is why yours truly wears a GOOD mask on my infrequent excursions.
LDs have choice between small minded twat Davey and pansexual domestic violence risk Layla.
Looks like continuing opposition since 1906.
I know the Tulsa rally was a fortnight ago, but when exactly did the eagle land on the sceptered isle again?
There is some advantage in being east Asian. It is not unreasonable to point to IQ, as the average intelligence of East Asians is about 5 points higher than the West, meaning enough people in the East will see good sense and wear a mask, social distance, wash hands, etc
You only need a proportion of the population to do all this and then suddenly R0 drops way down and the virus is beaten
Farage has played the lefty haters like a fiddle - they are tripping over themselves to grass him up for going to the pub, and so he looks like the devil-may-care rebel and they look like stiff Beauracratic killjoys... He couldn’t have scripted it any better
The difference between this and Cummings is that we are all allowed to go to the pub, whereas when Cummings went to Durham, we were all stuck indoors.
Nige will be laughing his socks off, after all this time they still can’t deal with him
So what's so different about what Farage has done, and Cumming case. Except that photos of Farage wetting his whistle way better.
This tiger's got us ALL by the tale. And so the scientific quest resembles blind men comparing notes on the elephant.
https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/1279434238840975360?s=21
Don't forget this is generally a hard left Remoaner website and most posters will not hesitate to attack this government.
Nothing has changed. Except which group is in power.
Now tell us about the poster again.
1. Granny has been long dead.
2. Great - if Granny dies, can I, like, move into her house?
3. We've trashed the economy long enough for her. She can stay self-isolated for ever for all I care. I want my job back.
4. Mine's a Corona - hur hur hur hur.......
Tosspots the lot of them.
Night all.
Cases in East Asia - Japan, Singapore. Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam - are now minimal. They have loosened all lockdowns and are, it seems, doing fine
I have posited obesity as a possible factor (and I am sure it is) and now I posit IQ.
If you want to beat coronavirus you need - for example - a large number of people to grasp the very basic fact that you wear a mask to protect others, not yourself. It is a barrier to transmission not infection.
For this you need a rule-following culture - SE ASia for sure - but also maybe you need a generally smarter culture - it is amazing how many Britons do not intellectually grasp this basic truth: wear a mask to protect OTHERS from your possible aerosols
They are morons. Even if it doesn't work that well. why not just try?
I see this whole virus as a basic IQ failure in the West. Maybe China saw the latest PISA scores, and pounced
Goodnight all too. Fed up with my phone hopefully back to PC posting tomorrow!
Probably a nice little earner for a CoE who could track that down...
The interesting take away from Farage is, had he consumed his pint a few hours later no one would have given two hoots. But Farage is dangerous and edgy, so he can come out of quarantine to generate some publicity for himself. Those who have said earlier he is playing everyone like a cheap fiddle may have a point.
New party launch on Monday?
Obesity may well be a factor (among others) for the severity of the disease, but not the infectiousness, I think.
Fox jr was down our local* though with some old mates. Not too busy once the Leicester game finished, in the beergarden, but social distancing failed as the night went on
* outside the zone
Glad to do it.
Whether or not you think Davey reporting Farage to the Police is a winner among the public, there's absolutely no doubt whatsoever that it'll appeal to Lib Dem members.
Farage fans may think it hilarious but a lot of people will think it's irresponsible after returning from such a covid hot spot as Arizona where others attending the same rally are going down with the disease.
It's got nothing to do with being a killjoy, the man is desperate for publicity and is prepared to court controversy and risk the health of others to get it. If he comes down with the virus after his jolly to kiss Trump's arse I think the smile would soon be wiped off his face.
The anarchists of the wider Chinese world. An island built on piracy, and a Polynesian laid back influence.
The bacchanalian spirit of 1.5 billion distilled into 23 million.
Nice little earner for the businesses that get away with it. But it’s fraud.
I am coming around to thinking Davey, by reporting the matter has merely served to oxygenate Farage's political pheonix from the ashes of his manifoldly failed parliamentary career, once again. An error!
Will they scratch Trumpsky from their dance cards, but vote for other Republicans downballot, or most of them anyway.
OR will they punish Trumpsky AND the GOP by voting for Biden AND for much or all of the rest of the Democratic ticket?
My guess is, some of each - by in what proportions from place to place and race to race?
I am assuming another comeback, and let's be honest he is the comeback king, albeit fleetingly, until he gets bored or his new party gets hijacked by extremists. Or it could be a TV career in the footsteps of Portillo. A "Magic of Europe" travelog perhaps?
https://twitter.com/laurapidcock/status/1279322373586632705?s=21
Could be that ANY publicity good or bad is good for him. Which has been The Donald's credo for his entire professional (if you can call it that) career (if you can call that that).
Old Ben was certainly correct. Without the South, no United State, no independence. This is the moment when the Original Sin of slavery is rooted in the foundation of the new emerging American nation.
On the plus side, it gave (White male property-owning) voters in states with little-or-no slavery a stake and a stay - both to grow rapidly in the next decades - in the expansion and finally the existence of slavery.
Interesting how abolitionist began as left-wing cranks and weirdos, or worse depending on the locale. Risking sanctions that could and did culminate in lynching. Which as time evolved the anti-slavery movement grew, but remaining a minor if sometimes politically significant minority.
Then a series of major shocks - the Fugitive Slave Act, the Kansas-Nebraska Act, the Dread Scott Decision, John Brown's Raid on Harpers Ferry - galvanized activists and moved swing voters, propelled the formation and rise of the (new) Republican Party, and resulted in the election of Abraham Lincoln.
And the rest, as they say, is history,
Crowds pictured mostly unmasked. But being outside is better than inside, and am thinking some of those pictured did NOT go inside, but stayed in outside seating or never actually entered a pub. Plus could be that crowding not quite as bad as it looks in pics, or at least not as crowded as demos.
Positive view admittedly. Humor me - it's July 4th!
What has Farage actually broken, assuming he has broken something - law or advice ("Rules" not being a thing)? Are the 14 days quarantine in the Regulations or the Guidance?
If it's Guidance, then Davey is wasting police time.
Wouldn't expect EJD to make that mistake though; he is a grey man of some thoroughness and some achievement.