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Ladbrokes: Chris Williamson is now 33/1 to become the next Labour leader, in from 100/1 last week pic.twitter.com/wp1El4c8vn

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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,860
    edited September 2018
    1st like the #JC9
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,860
    edited September 2018
    2nd like the #JC9 etc etc
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    Hmm. Did consider backing this, but backed a few on the market already. Think I'll sit it out.

    Saw him on the TV the other day. Was very loyal, with his fetching black shirt.
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    Scott_P said:
    So that’s what 72 virgins looks like.
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    How much would have to have gone on for his odds to be cut by 2/3rds? When Mike famously backed Obama in 2005, how soon after were the odds cut?
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    philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704
    edited September 2018
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,926
    edited September 2018
    8th like the JC9
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,836
    Scott_P said:
    What's the point about turning up dressed as a witch.
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    Sean_F said:

    Scott_P said:
    What's the point about turning up dressed as a witch.
    CosPlay.
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    Sean_F said:

    Scott_P said:
    What's the point about turning up dressed as a witch.
    Maybe she's a witch?
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    philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704
    I thought the tendency was for the Party Leader to get a boost locally.

    I didn't think decapitation strategies were often successful.
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    The (oc)cult for Corbyn.....
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    philiph said:

    I thought the tendency was for the Party Leader to get a boost locally.

    I didn't think decapitation strategies were often successful.

    Some do.

    Ted Heath and Theresa May didn’t get a boost.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,967

    How much would have to have gone on for his odds to be cut by 2/3rds? When Mike famously backed Obama in 2005, how soon after were the odds cut?

    Mike bet on Obama in 05? He kept that on the hush-hush :o
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    TrèsDifficileTrèsDifficile Posts: 1,729
    edited September 2018

    Sean_F said:

    Scott_P said:
    What's the point about turning up dressed as a witch.
    Maybe she's a witch?
    Actually, I think it's a thing. They dress up like witches to show it's a witch-hunt. Was done for Marc Wadsworth image
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,926
    philiph said:

    I thought the tendency was for the Party Leader to get a boost locally.

    I didn't think decapitation strategies were often successful.

    How about a 'if you float you're guilty' ducking stool strategy ?
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    Sean_F said:

    Scott_P said:
    What's the point about turning up dressed as a witch.
    Maybe she's a witch?
    Actually, I think it's a thing. They dress up like witches to show it's a witch-hunt. Was done for Marc Wadsworth image
    And Stan Keable image
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,836

    Sean_F said:

    Scott_P said:
    What's the point about turning up dressed as a witch.
    Maybe she's a witch?
    Actually, I think it's a thing. They dress up like witches to show it's a witch-hunt. Was done for Marc Wadsworth image
    It would be more interesting if she really were a witch, working goteic magic against the enemies of Jeremy.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,967

    Sean_F said:

    Scott_P said:
    What's the point about turning up dressed as a witch.
    Maybe she's a witch?
    Actually, I think it's a thing. They dress up like witches to show it's a witch-hunt. Was done for Marc Wadsworth image
    And Stan Keable image
    And I thought PB Tories were a bunch of deranged nutters.....
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    RobD said:

    How much would have to have gone on for his odds to be cut by 2/3rds? When Mike famously backed Obama in 2005, how soon after were the odds cut?

    Mike bet on Obama in 05? He kept that on the hush-hush :o
    Indeed, I only heard in hushed tones about it a year ago
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,115
    edited September 2018
    FPT, for SeanT - as you were saying Lincoln is one of your favourite European cities, have you ever been to the Wren-designed Library in the Cathedral? Has to be seen. Roy Strong said it was the most beautiful room in England. Go and make your own mind up.

    Hint: I haven't found one better......
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,426
    edited September 2018

    RobD said:

    How much would have to have gone on for his odds to be cut by 2/3rds? When Mike famously backed Obama in 2005, how soon after were the odds cut?

    Mike bet on Obama in 05? He kept that on the hush-hush :o
    Indeed, I only heard in hushed tones about it a year ago
    PB thread writers don’t like to brag about our big winners.

    I mean I seldom mention I tipped Amber Rudd as next out of the cabinet and Javid as her successor at 33/1 each.

    We’re humble people with legendary modesty.
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    Mr. Eagles, it's an exceedingly nice feeling when a long shot comes in. Of course, it doesn't happen too often, alas.

    Let's hope Bailey becomes the 2020 London mayor.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    If you are supporting the magic grandpa, how else would you dress?
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,190
    Not sure if it's been mentioned on here, but HS2 has not had a good couple of days:

    https://tinyurl.com/y9p7bkv4

    https://tinyurl.com/y7prynj5
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    Chris Williamson seems to be on manoeuvres, and he's more Corbynistic than Corbyn. Of course, he's a pretty vile dickhead, from whom voters would run a mile, but such old-fashioned considerations aren't very relevant in the extremist cult which has taken over the Labour Party.

    It's a long shot, obv. 100/1 would have been a great bet. I got a few quid on at 66/1, but I wouldn't want to go much lower than that.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,860
    Scott_P said:

    If you are supporting the magic grandpa, how else would you dress?

    In a blue cap like the Britain First bloke in the Pro Israel Demo?
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Never thought I'd see Chris Williamson being discussed as a possible future Labour leader.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,860
    Progress wasted 35.000 votes on MASTERS, Marianna

    Could have got Eddie on easily if they had a brain
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    Mr. P, I'm sure the Committee of Public Safety will reach a perfectly reasonable judgement that will help ensure equality and stability.
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    AndyJS said:

    Never thought I'd see Chris Williamson being discussed as a possible future Labour leader.

    We live in febrile times
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,298

    Progress wasted 35.000 votes on MASTERS, Marianna

    Could have got Eddie on easily if they had a brain

    Doesn't compute - it would dilute the purity of your party given that Eddie is not a racist. And not a racist down to his bones.

    Wouldn't fit in at all in your shithole of a terrorist supporting party.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,115
    Scott_P said:
    They are fighting over the hand-written amendment "These rules shall not apply to anybody called Jeremy"......
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,836

    Chris Williamson seems to be on manoeuvres, and he's more Corbynistic than Corbyn. Of course, he's a pretty vile dickhead, from whom voters would run a mile, but such old-fashioned considerations aren't very relevant in the extremist cult which has taken over the Labour Party.

    It's a long shot, obv. 100/1 would have been a great bet. I got a few quid on at 66/1, but I wouldn't want to go much lower than that.

    I suspect that he is the reason why UKIP did very well in Derby North in this year's local election.
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    Mr. Simon, one imagines the average Venezuelan would disagree.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,586

    philiph said:

    I thought the tendency was for the Party Leader to get a boost locally.

    I didn't think decapitation strategies were often successful.

    Some do.

    Ted Heath and Theresa May didn’t get a boost.
    Fairly successful with Charles I, too.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,115
    Scott_P said:
    Any "compromise" is still woefully short of the 100% acceptance of the unamended IHRA that any sane organisation should take about 14 seconds to think about and say "yup, sign us up".

    Means the likes of Watson have failed to win the day.
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    How does Sadiq Khan explain the use of Met Police to prevent civil war violence within the labour party outside their London HQ while suspected acid attack of three people takes place in Notting Hill
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,860
    edited September 2018
    TOPPING said:

    Progress wasted 35.000 votes on MASTERS, Marianna

    Could have got Eddie on easily if they had a brain

    Doesn't compute - it would dilute the purity of your party given that Eddie is not a racist. And not a racist down to his bones.

    Wouldn't fit in at all in your shithole of a terrorist supporting party.
    Have you frothed all over your keyboard
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,298

    TOPPING said:

    Progress wasted 35.000 votes on MASTERS, Marianna

    Could have got Eddie on easily if they had a brain

    Doesn't compute - it would dilute the purity of your party given that Eddie is not a racist. And not a racist down to his bones.

    Wouldn't fit in at all in your shithole of a terrorist supporting party.
    Have you frothed all over your keyboard
    Nah - just calling it as it is.
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    Sean_F said:

    Chris Williamson seems to be on manoeuvres, and he's more Corbynistic than Corbyn. Of course, he's a pretty vile dickhead, from whom voters would run a mile, but such old-fashioned considerations aren't very relevant in the extremist cult which has taken over the Labour Party.

    It's a long shot, obv. 100/1 would have been a great bet. I got a few quid on at 66/1, but I wouldn't want to go much lower than that.

    I suspect that he is the reason why UKIP did very well in Derby North in this year's local election.
    It's worth pointing out that under the proposed boundary changes, Derby gets reconfigured into a safe Labour Derby West (maj 13k) and a marginal Con Derby East (maj 2.5k). Williamson and Beckett would be going head to head for Derby W but at 75 she may retire anyway.
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    bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 21,860
    Megaphone Man shouting Fascist at CW is a far right activist usually seen in a Mossad Top

    https://twitter.com/kateferguson4/status/1036929939575066625


    Definitely not Topping who would surely be shouting "your shithole of a terrorist supporting party" down the Megaphone
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,926
    edited September 2018
    Corbynites and Leave.EUers don't have the batshit market sewn up just yet !, here's a good one from one of the #FBPE twitter lot...

    https://twitter.com/fightbrexit/status/1036662177070047232

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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,115

    Sean_F said:

    Chris Williamson seems to be on manoeuvres, and he's more Corbynistic than Corbyn. Of course, he's a pretty vile dickhead, from whom voters would run a mile, but such old-fashioned considerations aren't very relevant in the extremist cult which has taken over the Labour Party.

    It's a long shot, obv. 100/1 would have been a great bet. I got a few quid on at 66/1, but I wouldn't want to go much lower than that.

    I suspect that he is the reason why UKIP did very well in Derby North in this year's local election.
    It's worth pointing out that under the proposed boundary changes, Derby gets reconfigured into a safe Labour Derby West (maj 13k) and a marginal Con Derby East (maj 2.5k). Williamson and Beckett would be going head to head for Derby W but at 75 she may retire anyway.
    I think Ma Beckett needs to take every step she can to atone for lumbering Labour with Corbyn. Booting out Williamson would be a start.....
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,115

    Megaphone Man shouting Fascist at CW is a far right activist usually seen in a Mossad Top

    https://twitter.com/kateferguson4/status/1036929939575066625


    Definitely not Topping who would surely be shouting "your shithole of a terrorist supporting party" down the Megaphone

    Williamson saying "people a lot brighter than me" is going to be a gif.....
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    glwglw Posts: 9,549
    Pulpstar said:

    Corbynites and Leave.EUers don't have the batshit market sewn up just yet !, here's a good one from one of the #FBPE twitter lot...

    https://twitter.com/fightbrexit/status/1036662177070047232

    I tell you if there was a moonbat event in the Olympics we could give the Yanks a good run for their money.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,926
    New party leaders elected:

    The pair [Bartley and Berry] easily saw off challenges from rivals, scooping 6,239 of the 8,379 votes cast, against 1,466 for Shahrar Ali and 495 for Leslie Rowe.

    Amelia Womack was re-elected for a third term as deputy leader, taking 3,981 out of 7,369 votes.
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    Pulpstar said:

    New party leaders elected:

    The pair [Bartley and Berry] easily saw off challenges from rivals, scooping 6,239 of the 8,379 votes cast, against 1,466 for Shahrar Ali and 495 for Leslie Rowe.

    Amelia Womack was re-elected for a third term as deputy leader, taking 3,981 out of 7,369 votes.

    The voting numbers are woefully low.

    Is that standard for Green leadership votes?
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    glw said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Corbynites and Leave.EUers don't have the batshit market sewn up just yet !, here's a good one from one of the #FBPE twitter lot...

    https://twitter.com/fightbrexit/status/1036662177070047232

    I tell you if there was a moonbat event in the Olympics we could give the Yanks a good run for their money.
    I think the USA would still get the best haul of gold medals, though we might not be far behind as you suggest. Would the Russians used banned substances to increase their performance though?
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    I know its silly season but.....
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 41,932

    Pulpstar said:

    New party leaders elected:

    The pair [Bartley and Berry] easily saw off challenges from rivals, scooping 6,239 of the 8,379 votes cast, against 1,466 for Shahrar Ali and 495 for Leslie Rowe.

    Amelia Womack was re-elected for a third term as deputy leader, taking 3,981 out of 7,369 votes.

    The voting numbers are woefully low.

    Is that standard for Green leadership votes?
    surprised it is so many
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited September 2018

    glw said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Corbynites and Leave.EUers don't have the batshit market sewn up just yet !, here's a good one from one of the #FBPE twitter lot...

    https://twitter.com/fightbrexit/status/1036662177070047232

    I tell you if there was a moonbat event in the Olympics we could give the Yanks a good run for their money.
    I think the USA would still get the best haul of gold medals, though we might not be far behind as you suggest. Would the Russians used banned substances to increase their performance though?
    The yanks would win it hands down, forget all those nutters who think aliens anally probed them, the moon landings were fake and Elvis is alive and living in idaho, they just need to put up a team of Q believers.
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    malcolmg said:

    Pulpstar said:

    New party leaders elected:

    The pair [Bartley and Berry] easily saw off challenges from rivals, scooping 6,239 of the 8,379 votes cast, against 1,466 for Shahrar Ali and 495 for Leslie Rowe.

    Amelia Womack was re-elected for a third term as deputy leader, taking 3,981 out of 7,369 votes.

    The voting numbers are woefully low.

    Is that standard for Green leadership votes?
    surprised it is so many
    Well the choice was hardly inspiring - but even so, it is a low turnout
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    malcolmg said:

    Pulpstar said:

    New party leaders elected:

    The pair [Bartley and Berry] easily saw off challenges from rivals, scooping 6,239 of the 8,379 votes cast, against 1,466 for Shahrar Ali and 495 for Leslie Rowe.

    Amelia Womack was re-elected for a third term as deputy leader, taking 3,981 out of 7,369 votes.

    The voting numbers are woefully low.

    Is that standard for Green leadership votes?
    surprised it is so many
    I think it was obvious in advance who would win so that may have depressed turnout. Wor lass didn't bother voting, for example.
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,115

    glw said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Corbynites and Leave.EUers don't have the batshit market sewn up just yet !, here's a good one from one of the #FBPE twitter lot...

    https://twitter.com/fightbrexit/status/1036662177070047232

    I tell you if there was a moonbat event in the Olympics we could give the Yanks a good run for their money.
    I think the USA would still get the best haul of gold medals, though we might not be far behind as you suggest. Would the Russians used banned substances to increase their performance though?
    Just vodka.

    Boris Yeltsin would have been guaranteed a podium finish in any event he entered.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 41,932

    malcolmg said:

    Pulpstar said:

    New party leaders elected:

    The pair [Bartley and Berry] easily saw off challenges from rivals, scooping 6,239 of the 8,379 votes cast, against 1,466 for Shahrar Ali and 495 for Leslie Rowe.

    Amelia Womack was re-elected for a third term as deputy leader, taking 3,981 out of 7,369 votes.

    The voting numbers are woefully low.

    Is that standard for Green leadership votes?
    surprised it is so many
    Well the choice was hardly inspiring - but even so, it is a low turnout
    exceedingly dire
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    https://twitter.com/BenKentish/status/1037000278732623875

    If Willsman is being kept outside, the same should apply to others who have expressed inappropriate sentiments. Corbyn, Webbe and more
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    Scott_P said:
    I wonder if they are saying:

    "I do feel, Reg, that any Anti-Imperialist group like ours must reflect such a divergence of interests within its power-base, that is....erm, unless they happen to be Jewish".

    "Here! I-- I've got an idea. Suppose you agree that he can't actually publically say he hates Jews, seeing as he hasn't got a brain, which is nobody's fault, not even the Tories', but that he can have the right to hate Jews."
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 41,932

    malcolmg said:

    Pulpstar said:

    New party leaders elected:

    The pair [Bartley and Berry] easily saw off challenges from rivals, scooping 6,239 of the 8,379 votes cast, against 1,466 for Shahrar Ali and 495 for Leslie Rowe.

    Amelia Womack was re-elected for a third term as deputy leader, taking 3,981 out of 7,369 votes.

    The voting numbers are woefully low.

    Is that standard for Green leadership votes?
    surprised it is so many
    I think it was obvious in advance who would win so that may have depressed turnout. Wor lass didn't bother voting, for example.
    as other post , very dire if that is all they can muster
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    The Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party is facing growing calls to be put under state surveillance over mounting evidence of its links to neo-Nazi groups, following far-right demonstrations in the eastern city of Chemnitz.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/04/chemnitz-riots-spark-calls-for-afd-to-be-put-under-surveillance-neo-nazi

    Germany and state surveillance...that hasnt turned out too well in the past.
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    "Parliament has been living out what the late Nobel Prize winning economist Kenneth Arrow called his "impossibility theorem".

    Essentially, where there is more than a binary choice for a society, it is impossible to infer a decision accurately reflecting the "will of the people" from a binary vote.

    Indeed the big split by the end of the year could well be on how to settle a prolonged impasse.

    Some MPs think a new referendum is the only way to avoid a general election.

    Others anticipate and are planning for a general election to avoid another referendum."

    https://news.sky.com/story/mps-head-back-to-westminster-for-prolonged-panto-season-as-brexit-looms-11489914
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    Mr. Glenn, the backstop agreed covered the whole UK. The backstop Barnier wants is for Northern Ireland only.

    [As an aside, the UK being in the customs union is daft. Having the EU put a custom barrier within the UK is 100% unacceptable. Even the likes of Mogg and Grieve are united on that].
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    Pulpstar said:

    New party leaders elected:

    The pair [Bartley and Berry] easily saw off challenges from rivals, scooping 6,239 of the 8,379 votes cast, against 1,466 for Shahrar Ali and 495 for Leslie Rowe.

    Amelia Womack was re-elected for a third term as deputy leader, taking 3,981 out of 7,369 votes.

    Who
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,926

    Pulpstar said:

    New party leaders elected:

    The pair [Bartley and Berry] easily saw off challenges from rivals, scooping 6,239 of the 8,379 votes cast, against 1,466 for Shahrar Ali and 495 for Leslie Rowe.

    Amelia Womack was re-elected for a third term as deputy leader, taking 3,981 out of 7,369 votes.

    Who
    Greens.
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    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    New party leaders elected:

    The pair [Bartley and Berry] easily saw off challenges from rivals, scooping 6,239 of the 8,379 votes cast, against 1,466 for Shahrar Ali and 495 for Leslie Rowe.

    Amelia Womack was re-elected for a third term as deputy leader, taking 3,981 out of 7,369 votes.

    Who
    Greens.
    Are they still around
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,298

    Megaphone Man shouting Fascist at CW is a far right activist usually seen in a Mossad Top

    https://twitter.com/kateferguson4/status/1036929939575066625


    Definitely not Topping who would surely be shouting "your shithole of a terrorist supporting party" down the Megaphone

    I would try to think of something pithier but it would be the general gist, yes you're right.

    Plus you seem to have been spending quite a lot of time on researching the sartorial habits of various activists.
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,836
    SeanT said:

    FPT, for SeanT - as you were saying Lincoln is one of your favourite European cities, have you ever been to the Wren-designed Library in the Cathedral? Has to be seen. Roy Strong said it was the most beautiful room in England. Go and make your own mind up.

    Hint: I haven't found one better......

    I have not! And now I will.

    Lincoln is gorgeous. Ely is jolly pleasant as well.
    The Annual Pet Blessing at Ely Cathedral is one of those hilariously bonkers things that is so characteristic of this country.
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    Scott_P said:
    I wonder if they are saying:

    "I do feel, Reg, that any Anti-Imperialist group like ours must reflect such a divergence of interests within its power-base, that is....erm, unless they happen to be Jewish".

    "Here! I-- I've got an idea. Suppose you agree that he can't actually publically say he hates Jews, seeing as he hasn't got a brain, which is nobody's fault, not even the Tories', but that he can have the right to hate Jews."
    The IHRA clearly is the bogey man for some of those on the hard left, when it does nothing to stop you making strong criticisms of Israels behaviour....How hard can it be to refrain from going around shouting Zio, calling them nazis or claiming they are behind some secret cabal that runs the world.
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,836
    Pulpstar said:

    Corbynites and Leave.EUers don't have the batshit market sewn up just yet !, here's a good one from one of the #FBPE twitter lot...

    https://twitter.com/fightbrexit/status/1036662177070047232

    He can always go abroad to shop.

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    "Parliament has been living out what the late Nobel Prize winning economist Kenneth Arrow called his "impossibility theorem".

    Essentially, where there is more than a binary choice for a society, it is impossible to infer a decision accurately reflecting the "will of the people" from a binary vote.

    Indeed the big split by the end of the year could well be on how to settle a prolonged impasse.

    Some MPs think a new referendum is the only way to avoid a general election.

    Others anticipate and are planning for a general election to avoid another referendum."

    https://news.sky.com/story/mps-head-back-to-westminster-for-prolonged-panto-season-as-brexit-looms-11489914

    It seems rather optimistic to try to resolve an impasse arising from a binary vote with another binary vote.
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,836

    "Parliament has been living out what the late Nobel Prize winning economist Kenneth Arrow called his "impossibility theorem".

    Essentially, where there is more than a binary choice for a society, it is impossible to infer a decision accurately reflecting the "will of the people" from a binary vote.

    Indeed the big split by the end of the year could well be on how to settle a prolonged impasse.

    Some MPs think a new referendum is the only way to avoid a general election.

    Others anticipate and are planning for a general election to avoid another referendum."

    https://news.sky.com/story/mps-head-back-to-westminster-for-prolonged-panto-season-as-brexit-looms-11489914

    It seems rather optimistic to try to resolve an impasse arising from a binary vote with another binary vote.
    Especially when we don't know what we're voting on.
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    Mr. Glenn, the backstop agreed covered the whole UK. The backstop Barnier wants is for Northern Ireland only.

    No it didn't. That's why paragraph 50 was inserted which gives gives Stormont a veto over any divergence on the part of Great Britain. This refers to regulatory barriers only:

    In the absence of agreed solutions, as set out in the previous paragraph, the United
    Kingdom will ensure that no new regulatory barriers develop between Northern Ireland and the rest of the United Kingdom, unless, consistent with the 1998 Agreement, the Northern Ireland Executive and Assembly agree that distinct arrangements are appropriate for Northern Ireland. In all circumstances, the United Kingdom will continue to ensure the same unfettered access for Northern Ireland's businesses to the whole of the United Kingdom internal market.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited September 2018

    Megaphone Man shouting Fascist at CW is a far right activist usually seen in a Mossad Top

    twitter.com/kateferguson4/status/1036929939575066625

    Sacha baron Cohen gets everywhere these days....that character was really the only good one in his new show.
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    TOPPING said:

    Megaphone Man shouting Fascist at CW is a far right activist usually seen in a Mossad Top

    https://twitter.com/kateferguson4/status/1036929939575066625


    Definitely not Topping who would surely be shouting "your shithole of a terrorist supporting party" down the Megaphone

    I would try to think of something pithier but it would be the general gist, yes you're right.

    Plus you seem to have been spending quite a lot of time on researching the sartorial habits of various activists.
    And Mossad agents all go round wearing t-shirts showing that they work for the Israeli Security Services. That is exactly how agents of such organisations always dress!
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,836

    Mr. Glenn, the backstop agreed covered the whole UK. The backstop Barnier wants is for Northern Ireland only.

    No it didn't. That's why paragraph 50 was inserted which gives gives Stormont a veto over any divergence on the part of Great Britain. This refers to regulatory barriers only:

    In the absence of agreed solutions, as set out in the previous paragraph, the United
    Kingdom will ensure that no new regulatory barriers develop between Northern Ireland and the rest of the United Kingdom, unless, consistent with the 1998 Agreement, the Northern Ireland Executive and Assembly agree that distinct arrangements are appropriate for Northern Ireland. In all circumstances, the United Kingdom will continue to ensure the same unfettered access for Northern Ireland's businesses to the whole of the United Kingdom internal market.
    Does Stormont want such regulatory barriers?
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,115

    TOPPING said:

    Megaphone Man shouting Fascist at CW is a far right activist usually seen in a Mossad Top

    https://twitter.com/kateferguson4/status/1036929939575066625


    Definitely not Topping who would surely be shouting "your shithole of a terrorist supporting party" down the Megaphone

    I would try to think of something pithier but it would be the general gist, yes you're right.

    Plus you seem to have been spending quite a lot of time on researching the sartorial habits of various activists.
    And Mossad agents all go round wearing t-shirts showing that they work for the Israeli Security Services. That is exactly how agents of such organisations always dress!
    Do they wear tank tops?
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,836

    TOPPING said:

    Megaphone Man shouting Fascist at CW is a far right activist usually seen in a Mossad Top

    https://twitter.com/kateferguson4/status/1036929939575066625


    Definitely not Topping who would surely be shouting "your shithole of a terrorist supporting party" down the Megaphone

    I would try to think of something pithier but it would be the general gist, yes you're right.

    Plus you seem to have been spending quite a lot of time on researching the sartorial habits of various activists.
    And Mossad agents all go round wearing t-shirts showing that they work for the Israeli Security Services. That is exactly how agents of such organisations always dress!
    It's a double bluff. We would assume that Mossad agents wouldn't go round wearing Mossad tee shirts, but in fact, they do.
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    I reckon CCHQ will let this one go through:
    https://order-order.com/2018/09/04/steven-woolfe-mep-joins-tories/
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    Former almost UKIP leadership candidate Steven Woolfe MEP has applied to join the Tories.
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    Sean_F said:

    Mr. Glenn, the backstop agreed covered the whole UK. The backstop Barnier wants is for Northern Ireland only.

    No it didn't. That's why paragraph 50 was inserted which gives gives Stormont a veto over any divergence on the part of Great Britain. This refers to regulatory barriers only:

    In the absence of agreed solutions, as set out in the previous paragraph, the United
    Kingdom will ensure that no new regulatory barriers develop between Northern Ireland and the rest of the United Kingdom, unless, consistent with the 1998 Agreement, the Northern Ireland Executive and Assembly agree that distinct arrangements are appropriate for Northern Ireland. In all circumstances, the United Kingdom will continue to ensure the same unfettered access for Northern Ireland's businesses to the whole of the United Kingdom internal market.
    Does Stormont want such regulatory barriers?
    If not, then the UK will just have to implement EU rules to ensure GB remains in alignment with Northern Ireland.

    It's a chain - NI remains in full alignment on both regulation and customs policy. GB remains in alignment with NI on regulation to maintain the UK internal market, but the EU has no obligation to extend any special treatment beyond Northern Ireland.
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    Mr. Glenn, "In all circumstances, the United Kingdom will continue to ensure the same unfettered access for Northern Ireland's businesses to the whole of the United Kingdom internal market."

    How can that access be the 'same unfettered' variety if the EU has annexed Northern Ireland into its customs union, and the rest of the UK is without?

    It's drunken madness. Or the EU's official position, which may explain why so many were not enamoured with it to start with.
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    He was the one that got in a punch up in the European parliament and ended up in a serious condition in hospital wasn't he?
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    SeanT said:

    Well. Time to bet on a Bojo leadership? I don't see how TMay survives this

    https://twitter.com/andrew_lilico/status/1037003631080468481

    Maybe we should just all move to Sweden ;-)
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    He was the one that got in a punch up in the European parliament and ended up in a serious condition in hospital wasn't he?
    Yes, the punch-up was with the appropriately named Mike Hookem.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,926

    He was the one that got in a punch up in the European parliament and ended up in a serious condition in hospital wasn't he?
    Laid out by Mike "Right" Hookem
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    MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 50,115
    SeanT said:

    Well. Time to bet on a Bojo leadership? I don't see how TMay survives this

    https://twitter.com/andrew_lilico/status/1037003631080468481

    It does look terminal for Theresa.
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    Mr. Glenn, "In all circumstances, the United Kingdom will continue to ensure the same unfettered access for Northern Ireland's businesses to the whole of the United Kingdom internal market."

    How can that access be the 'same unfettered' variety if the EU has annexed Northern Ireland into its customs union, and the rest of the UK is without?

    It's drunken madness. Or the EU's official position, which may explain why so many were not enamoured with it to start with.

    It's very specific wording: "unfettered access for Northern Ireland's businesses" means businesses in NI trading with the rest of the UK. It means the UK is making a unilateral commitment to give them full access. It doesn't place any obligations on the wider EU.
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    On topic, would this not be a case of getting out of the lying man and onto the dire?
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited September 2018
    Interesting new article by John Gray on liberalism:
    "The rise of post-truth liberalism
    John Gray"

    https://unherd.com/2018/09/the-rise-of-the-post-truth-liberals
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,942
    SeanT said:

    Well. Time to bet on a Bojo leadership? I don't see how TMay survives this

    https://twitter.com/andrew_lilico/status/1037003631080468481

    Beginning to wonder if DD is the unity candidate.
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Scott_P said:
    How do you compromise with anti-Semitism?

    And, unpleasant though he probably is (I never saw the video) it sticks in the craw to have an elected member of the NEC slung off for events that took place before his election. Either you believe in democracy or you don’t.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited September 2018
    Are the Tories running some secret discount scheme on memberships for ex-kippers this month? The fruitcake special?
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