Just thinking about it more. Taking down a hard brexit Tory party would make Ruth the hero of Scotland and a shoo in as the next first minister. The question must be why she would not do it.
File with other 'cloud cuckoo land' ideas.
It would lead to the break up of the UK and possibly the Tory party.
In descending order of importance?
To me, Yes. The Union is more important than the party.
Surely giving Davidson a 'win' over an existential issue like Brexit would be the best way to frame it for the good of both. Brexiteers climbing down for the sake of the union might seem more palatable than climbing down because Cameron and Osborne had been right and they were wrong.
I don't know either - but it would have enlivened an already mind-boggling thread, had you waited 24 hours. I wonder what tomorrow will bring ?
The biggest difficulty about putting that thread together was editing it down.
On reflection, I think this is good news for his chances. Consider this. UKIP members were always highly culturally conservative. Membership seems to be in freefall as many have drifted back to the Conservative party. The remnants are in all probability the ultras. Being the leading anti-woofter candidate (and reminding the electorate that the two front runners both bat for the other side) looks a handy piece of campaign positioning.
Agree. Being incapable of producing a logical argument won't harm either. "Counseling involving parents should be offered on a one to one basis" shows he has no concept of what counselling is either.
I don't know either - but it would have enlivened an already mind-boggling thread, had you waited 24 hours. I wonder what tomorrow will bring ?
The biggest difficulty about putting that thread together was editing it down.
On reflection, I think this is good news for his chances. Consider this. UKIP members were always highly culturally conservative. Membership seems to be in freefall as many have drifted back to the Conservative party. The remnants are in all probability the ultras. Being the leading anti-woofter candidate (and reminding the electorate that the two front runners both bat for the other side) looks a handy piece of campaign positioning.
Yes, but surely you wouldn't have edited that out ???
'Bat for the other side'.... Have you been working in the UKIP press office ?
Mr Kurten had already expressed concern that the government is to start "pushing gender queer theory on primary schools". He had ringingly declared that: "I will take UKIP in the direction of standing against the militant transgender activism that’s happening at the moment."
Just thinking about it more. Taking down a hard brexit Tory party would make Ruth the hero of Scotland and a shoo in as the next first minister. The question must be why she would not do it.
File with other 'cloud cuckoo land' ideas.
It would lead to the break up of the UK and possibly the Tory party.
In descending order of importance?
To me, Yes. The Union is more important than the party.
Surely giving Davidson a 'win' over an existential issue like Brexit would be the best way to frame it for the good of both. Brexiteers climbing down for the sake of the union might seem more palatable than climbing down because Cameron and Osborne had been right and they were wrong.
Dream on.
There will be no need for climbing down.
We're leaving, and we're going to make a success of it.
Not a fan of the guy hosting the interview, but he has interviewed google employee who has been fired. It is claimed that the original document was significantly edited by the "leaker".
Just thinking about it more. Taking down a hard brexit Tory party would make Ruth the hero of Scotland and a shoo in as the next first minister. The question must be why she would not do it.
File with other 'cloud cuckoo land' ideas.
It would lead to the break up of the UK and possibly the Tory party.
Just thinking about it more. Taking down a hard brexit Tory party would make Ruth the hero of Scotland and a shoo in as the next first minister. The question must be why she would not do it.
File with other 'cloud cuckoo land' ideas.
It would lead to the break up of the UK and possibly the Tory party.
In descending order of importance?
To me, Yes. The Union is more important than the party.
Surely giving Davidson a 'win' over an existential issue like Brexit would be the best way to frame it for the good of both. Brexiteers climbing down for the sake of the union might seem more palatable than climbing down because Cameron and Osborne had been right and they were wrong.
The view in Scotland is that it will be England that takes down the union. The hard Brexiters accept that their views could split the union but are prepared to go ahead anyway. I personally cant see Scotland staying in the union with a hard brexit and I am a passionate unionist.
In such a circumstance Ruth who has the same view would rather take down the party than the union.
Just thinking about it more. Taking down a hard brexit Tory party would make Ruth the hero of Scotland and a shoo in as the next first minister. The question must be why she would not do it.
File with other 'cloud cuckoo land' ideas.
It would lead to the break up of the UK and possibly the Tory party.
off topic of this thread (but on topic on the recent parallel thread):
Yesterday some were criticising Thatcher's "failure" to pre-empt the Argentinians' aggression towards the Falklands by sending a warship to the region (as Wilson had done in 1977), and now there seems to be criticism ofTrump for doing just that.
Wilson retired in April 1976 . The warship was sent by Callaghan in 1977.
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As I said, so much to say, so little space.
There will be no need for climbing down.
We're leaving, and we're going to make a success of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN1vEfqHGro
Makes systems very vulnerable though.
A link for motoring enthusiasts...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/131178/how-the-red-pig-catapulted-amg-to-greatness
Mr. B, must admit, outside F1 (and old new Top Gear), my motoring interest is pretty much zero.
In such a circumstance Ruth who has the same view would rather take down the party than the union.