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    Good lord, she managed to bat it off.

    She has played a blinder today
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    what the hell just happened?

    Someone tried to give Mrs May her p45, from Boris.
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    Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    Cyclefree said:

    On the aviation theme, I recently flew in a 1953 De Havilland Beaver seaplane over the coast of Vancouver Island.

    Absolutely brilliant!

    I have always wanted to fly a seaplane (not fly in one - fly one). As much runway as you need and no crosswind.

    I am glad you enjoyed it :+1:
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    Ah it was Lee Nelson.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,311

    Good lord, she managed to bat it off.

    ???
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    How the feck did CCHQ allow someone that close to the PM?
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    jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,261
    lol the conspiracy people on twitter think her camp organised that stunt so that it would get the people in the audience to back her.
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    Ah it was Lee Nelson.

    How did he get a security pass and so close?
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    Ah it was Lee Nelson.

    Who is that?
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    jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,261

    How the feck did CCHQ allow someone that close to the PM?

    Imagine if that was someone who wanted to do actual harm to the PM...
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    I presume Lee Nelson has a new tour to promote?
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    Ah it was Lee Nelson.

    Who is that?
    A comedian (sic)

    This is one of his past stunts.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pqO6tK8_Wg

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    PongPong Posts: 4,693

    How the feck did CCHQ allow someone that close to the PM?

    Almost certainly someone with an official/media pass, I recon.
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    Oh no, her voice is going.
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    Ah it was Lee Nelson.

    Who is that?
    Comic chav character (real name Simon Brodkin, think Ali G to Sacha Baron Cohen) infamous for pranks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Brodkin
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    The quiet woman is turning up the volume.
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    This is turning into a fucking disaster.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,247
    More water for the stage...
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    I feel sorry for her, this is embarrassing.
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    CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,205

    Cyclefree said:

    On the aviation theme, I recently flew in a 1953 De Havilland Beaver seaplane over the coast of Vancouver Island.

    Absolutely brilliant!

    Harbour Air Seaplanes?
    I think they were the ones. Based in Tofino. The day we went we started with a walk in Long Beach - with sea mist eventually rising to reveal a gloriously sunny day - and then flew in the afternoon. Looking over the coast and inlets with the sun glinting on the water was an unmissable experience.

    I have never before been to that part of Canada but it is an amazingly beautiful country. And one I can’t wait to revisit.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929
    Pong said:

    How the feck did CCHQ allow someone that close to the PM?

    Almost certainly someone with an official/media pass, I recon.
    Can you get those if you're a second rate comedian these days ?
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    PongPong Posts: 4,693
    This is a disaster.
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    Cyclefree said:

    Cyclefree said:

    On the aviation theme, I recently flew in a 1953 De Havilland Beaver seaplane over the coast of Vancouver Island.

    Absolutely brilliant!

    Harbour Air Seaplanes?
    I think they were the ones. Based in Tofino. The day we went we started with a walk in Long Beach - with sea mist eventually rising to reveal a gloriously sunny day - and then flew in the afternoon. Looking over the coast and inlets with the sun glinting on the water was an unmissable experience.

    I have never before been to that part of Canada but it is an amazingly beautiful country. And one I can’t wait to revisit.
    Vancouver Island is one of my favourite places in the world.
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    SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,704
    Oh dear oh dear :(
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    jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,261
    Apparently a lot of colds going around the conference.
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    What an amazing eventful speech - she has won them over completely
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,247
    What a roller coaster this is turning into.

    The cough may give me my 8 min ovation if she makes to the end!!!!
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    Pulpstar said:

    Pong said:

    How the feck did CCHQ allow someone that close to the PM?

    Almost certainly someone with an official/media pass, I recon.
    Can you get those if you're a second rate comedian these days ?
    He has managed to get passes for all sorts of things in the past, from FIFA to right up close to Trump.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,247

    Will she make it to the end of the speech?

    I refer to my previous comment!
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    tpfkartpfkar Posts: 1,546
    What a bizarre few minutes. I imagine it will generate a lot of sympathy for her, but this is anything but strong or stable.
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    What an amazing eventful speech - she has won them over completely

    There are no Iraqi tanks in Baghdad.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,247
    Not sure I have ever seen this happen before to a major pol.
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    MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Hope someone will be timing the standing ovation at the end
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,247
    Hold on - don't do the 8 mins now!!
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    I can't watch...anyone want to summarise?
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    JonathanDJonathanD Posts: 2,400

    Good lord, she managed to bat it off.

    I think that was a joke Cameron used to make about Miliband.
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    That cough and the P45 could derail this. I thought she was doing ok - but it is easy to paint a picture. The crowd is clapping her like the slowest runner in a marathon.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,358
    I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).

    Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?
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    Hope someone will be timing the standing ovation at the end

    I've got my stopwatch ready (well the stopwatch on my phone)
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    I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).

    Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?

    started strongly, got knocked off course, but ploughing on...
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    I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).

    Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?

    It was Cameron/one nation in content, but was derailed by the 'comedian' and her voice going.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,247

    I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).

    Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?

    Started well. Quite personal. A few jokes. Protester arrives with P45. More jokes. Then coughing for England...
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    jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,261
    Maybe I am naive but I think both the P45 stunt and her soldiering on with the bad throat might play well with party members.

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    Blue_rogBlue_rog Posts: 2,019
    I feel really sorry for May. That cough is what will hit the headlines, that and the interloper. She had some good things to say as well.
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    The conference was boring and flat until now
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    PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited October 2017
    STRONG AND STABLE
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    I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).

    Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?

    She started well - an apology and list of various achievements (mostly Camerons). Said "This is what I'm here for" or words to that effect. Some small announcements. Middle part P45, Bob Fleming from Fast Show and pity. Needs to end well.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,247
    jonny83 said:

    Maybe I am naive but I think both the P45 stunt and her soldiering on with the bad throat might play well with party members.

    I am optimistic on the ovation front. It certainly aint gonna be a quick 30 secs.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,247
    Will Boris finish reading the speech?
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,626
    Good lord - you'd think a politician of her experience would have heard of Vocalzones...
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,311
    edited October 2017
    jonny83 said:

    Maybe I am naive but I think both the P45 stunt and her soldiering on with the bad throat might play well with party members.

    Maybe but most people give no quarter. What a shame. It makes me feel sorry for her but it is far from the Iron Lady image people look for.

    The market should be how long she will be in tears for with Mr May after she gets off stage, very very sadly.
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    jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,261
    Some really angry MP's that are not very happy that security didn't stop that P45 stunt.
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    He's actually Simon Brodkin, he's given his real name. Lee Nelson is a stage name.
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    I feel sorry for Mrs May, that's how bad it is.
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    This is the worst speech by a party leader to conference since the debacle of IDS' Turning up the Volume speech. (No, Jeremy Corbyn) - I mean really! The couching doesn't help but I am not going to blame her for that. It really is a poor poor speech. Surely the knives have got to be out after this.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,358

    I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).

    Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?

    Started well. Quite personal. A few jokes. Protester arrives with P45. More jokes. Then coughing for England...
    Thanks. So it will be remembered solely for the protestor now, then.

    Great.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,247
    Bit over the top.

    Could happen to anyone.
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    Some politicians are really lucky, others...not so much.

    If something could go wrong for PM Brown, it is more than likely did. It seems the same for Kim Jong May.
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    TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 41,311
    Pong said:
    haven't looked presumably markets (betting) odds are tanking in favour of Boris?
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    RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 2,977
    ...surely we're looking at the end of Mays career here? Not seen a speech so poor.

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    GideonWiseGideonWise Posts: 1,123
    Get Boris in now. May is not up to it.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,247

    I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).

    Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?

    Started well. Quite personal. A few jokes. Protester arrives with P45. More jokes. Then coughing for England...
    Thanks. So it will be remembered solely for the protestor now, then.

    Great.
    No, he's history. It will be remember for years as the 'coughing fit speech'

    It will strike terror into any front rank politician. What if it happened to me???
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,898
    Nigelb said:


    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Dura_Ace said:



    I did a lot of glider flying at one point and spin practice was mandatory - especially in a Puchacz. Seeing nothing but the ground in front of you and approaching at 100kts was "interesting". It really made you lean back in your seat :)

    The best advice I ever got on spins was from my Hawk instructor: if it's still spinning at 10,000 feet get out of it and take your ground posting like a man,
    In gliders we practice spins from 1,000’ - the spin following a failed winch launch is what kills people. Easily dealt with if well trained though, even if you have a horrible view for a few seconds.
    I refused an 800ft spin entry from an instructor in a glider once. Apparently things got heated enough that they overheard us from the launch point below.

    I was always glad to get above the 300ft - 400ft point on winch launches. I reserved my polebending for the final phases.
    Ha, well done. I’m sure P1 didn’t want to get killed either. 800’ doesn’t give you a lot of time or options, lots of ‘eventualities’ to consider there. Better to look out and watch the ASI during the launch, and react correctly to a failed launch in the first place.

    We’re way, way off topic for a politics blog!
    In what way is spin recovery OT ?
    As a polite way of excusing oneself for an hour to go and earn some money ;)
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    Poor woman. No-one deserves that.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,358

    This is the worst speech by a party leader to conference since the debacle of IDS' Turning up the Volume speech. (No, Jeremy Corbyn) - I mean really! The couching doesn't help but I am not going to blame her for that. It really is a poor poor speech. Surely the knives have got to be out after this.

    Arguably, this is a pointless comment, *but* it will look like nothing is going to happen until (and if) it does, and then it will be happen and all be over very quickly.

    Then, afterwards, it will look like it was an inevitability.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited October 2017
    This is where I am sure Cameron would have come out with an off-script gag...

    https://twitter.com/daily_politics/status/915534771299655680
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,929
    ok So she had a cold and there was a protestor.

    What about the CONTENT though.

    Anything on council housing/tuition fees ?
    Any tax breaks for hard pressed PAYErs :o ?
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,247
    edited October 2017
    TOPPING said:

    Pong said:
    haven't looked presumably markets (betting) odds are tanking in favour of Boris?
    Holding steady on BF at about 6 for Boris
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,626
    Did they think she'd finished back there ?
    Ovation started for a good 30secs & then she ploughed on, coughing.
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    Nigelb said:

    Did they think she'd finished back there ?
    Ovation started for a good 30secs & then she ploughed on, coughing.

    They are giving her big ovations she can recover her voice and drink water.

    Tragic.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,358
    What's the big policy announcement then?

    Please don't tell me it's an energy price cap and council houses.
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    PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited October 2017
    Crap speech with crap delivery made by a crap prime minister from a crap party with crap policies at a crap conference with crap security.

    IT'S ALL CRAP.
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    sladeslade Posts: 1,932

    I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).

    Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?

    Started well. Quite personal. A few jokes. Protester arrives with P45. More jokes. Then coughing for England...
    Thanks. So it will be remembered solely for the protestor now, then.

    Great.
    No, he's history. It will be remember for years as the 'coughing fit speech'

    It will strike terror into any front rank politician. What if it happened to me???
    Remember the Charles Kennedy speech at a Lib Dem conference. It presaged his departure.
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,247
    May is not a lucky General, that's for sure.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,626

    ...surely we're looking at the end of Mays career here? Not seen a speech so poor.

    Depends on which soundbites get the play later on, I suspect.
    If the BBC were to lead with 30 seconds of coughing....
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    OchEyeOchEye Posts: 1,469

    I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).

    Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?

    Poor, cough, waffle, cough. The quiet man with a cough! Uninspiring and unbelievable...
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    Pong said:

    Crap speech with crap delivery made by a crap prime minister from a crap party with crap policies at a crap conference with crap security.

    IT'S ALL CRAP.

    Predictable comment
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    Bit over the top.

    Could happen to anyone.
    Yes - but the speech was POOR regardless of the coughing! She is a poor speaker.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXmQdi9pwDA
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,626

    Nigelb said:

    Did they think she'd finished back there ?
    Ovation started for a good 30secs & then she ploughed on, coughing.

    They are giving her big ovations she can recover her voice and drink water.

    Tragic.
    No, I think they genuinely thought (were hoping) she was done for a moment...
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,358
    OchEye said:

    I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).

    Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?

    Poor, cough, waffle, cough. The quiet man with a cough! Uninspiring and unbelievable...
    Yes, I'm sure that's objective.

    Perhaps I should come back to pb.com after we've all stopped being in spinning mode.
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    slade said:

    I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).

    Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?

    Started well. Quite personal. A few jokes. Protester arrives with P45. More jokes. Then coughing for England...
    Thanks. So it will be remembered solely for the protestor now, then.

    Great.
    No, he's history. It will be remember for years as the 'coughing fit speech'

    It will strike terror into any front rank politician. What if it happened to me???
    Remember the Charles Kennedy speech at a Lib Dem conference. It presaged his departure.
    Didn't that also happen to Sir Ming Campbell?
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    Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,002
    The level of security at the conference bodes well for the new six counties border.
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,288
    Dura_Ace said:

    The level of security at the conference bodes well for the new six counties border.

    P45 for the conference security team.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,071
    Hillary Clinton had some bad coughing fits at election rallies last year but I've never seen this in a big set-piece speech.
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    OchEye said:

    I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).

    Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?

    Poor, cough, waffle, cough. The quiet man with a cough! Uninspiring and unbelievable...
    Yes, I'm sure that's objective.

    Perhaps I should come back to pb.com after we've all stopped being in spinning mode.
    This is the issue.

    https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/915539087997767681
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,945

    Poor woman. No-one deserves that.

    Agreed.
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    She's just socked it to Andrea Leadsom.
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    logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,721

    jonny83 said:

    Maybe I am naive but I think both the P45 stunt and her soldiering on with the bad throat might play well with party members.

    I am optimistic on the ovation front. It certainly aint gonna be a quick 30 secs.
    Sympathy.
    But leadership election now more likely.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,626
    That's the bit where it says 'pause for coughing' ?
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    She's just socked it to Andrea Leadsom.

    I missed that, what happened?
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,620
    "For cough" said BoJo (At least that's what it sounded like).

    Has May whispered her resignation yet?
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    She's just socked it to Andrea Leadsom.

    I missed that, what happened?
    Talked about not having children, made Andrea Leadsom look like a callous person.
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