I'm about to leave work to pick up some shopping, and I will walk straight past Flight Club. I shall give you a report from the front line if there's anything of interest.
I thought you said Fight Club, and was about to mention the first rule
"Not my side, Mr Max. It is the Tories who are in charge of everything. I don`t think there is any dispute about the incompetent mess they (that is you, IIRC) are making of everything."
So so true. The Tories are an incompetent disgrace. To be honest, a sharp operator like Barnier against a certified moron, David Davis and a sleazy friend of war criminals, Liam Fox was always going to be walkover.
The old adage rings true as ever before - the Conservative Party will put their own party interest ahead of the national interest every single time.
Brexit = a calamity! Brexiteers = Idiots!
It was the British voters who voted for Brexit, the Tory leader at the time backed Remain
murali is another one who thinks democracy is overrated.
Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
I remember predicting that.
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.
Soon there won't be a PBBrexiteer left in the UK, they will all be in California, Spain, the UAE, Australia, Singapore etc.
Sunil may be the only PB Leave voter still sticking it out in Blighty!
Oh I'll still be here. Having lived and worked far too many years outside of England I would never chose to leave. Besides I am thoroughly enjoying the politics.
German industrialists increasingly suspect that Mr Trump is spoiling for a fight and intends to go ahead with 25pc tariffs on European car imports, exploiting a national security loophole under US trade law as he did over duties on steel and aluminium. The EU currently imposes 10pc duties on cars, mostly aimed at curbing a flood of imports from Asia.
This could turn into a double drama for Germany if Brexit talks break down at the same time, leading to trade barriers with Britain. The German car industry might then face a sudden squeeze in its two biggest global markets.
"Not my side, Mr Max. It is the Tories who are in charge of everything. I don`t think there is any dispute about the incompetent mess they (that is you, IIRC) are making of everything."
So so true. The Tories are an incompetent disgrace. To be honest, a sharp operator like Barnier against a certified moron, David Davis and a sleazy friend of war criminals, Liam Fox was always going to be walkover.
The old adage rings true as ever before - the Conservative Party will put their own party interest ahead of the national interest every single time.
Brexit = a calamity! Brexiteers = Idiots!
It was the British voters who voted for Brexit, the Tory leader at the time backed Remain
murali is another one who thinks democracy is overrated.
murali also seems not to understand that 'respecting' a result is not the same as 'supporting' it......but perhaps mural is the sort of leftie who thinks there is only one 'correct' way to think...
Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
I remember predicting that.
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.
Only on here....
In the real world, on the other hand, people have babies, buy houses, are gazumped, go on holiday, lose loved ones, watch movies......invite (must we really?) people to dinner drinks...
Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
I remember predicting that.
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.
Only on here....
In the real world, on the other hand, people have babies, buy houses, are gazumped, go on holiday, lose loved ones, watch movies......invite (must we really?) people to dinner drinks...
Do they serve them pineapple on pizza?
Only to find out what type of person they really are...
German industrialists increasingly suspect that Mr Trump is spoiling for a fight and intends to go ahead with 25pc tariffs on European car imports, exploiting a national security loophole under US trade law as he did over duties on steel and aluminium. The EU currently imposes 10pc duties on cars, mostly aimed at curbing a flood of imports from Asia.
This could turn into a double drama for Germany if Brexit talks break down at the same time, leading to trade barriers with Britain. The German car industry might then face a sudden squeeze in its two biggest global markets.
German industrialists increasingly suspect that Mr Trump is spoiling for a fight and intends to go ahead with 25pc tariffs on European car imports, exploiting a national security loophole under US trade law as he did over duties on steel and aluminium. The EU currently imposes 10pc duties on cars, mostly aimed at curbing a flood of imports from Asia.
This could turn into a double drama for Germany if Brexit talks break down at the same time, leading to trade barriers with Britain. The German car industry might then face a sudden squeeze in its two biggest global markets.
I'm about to leave work to pick up some shopping, and I will walk straight past Flight Club. I shall give you a report from the front line if there's anything of interest.
I thought you said Fight Club, and was about to mention the first rule
They definitely have those up Hanley...and doesn’t cost £15/hr to partake.
German industrialists increasingly suspect that Mr Trump is spoiling for a fight and intends to go ahead with 25pc tariffs on European car imports, exploiting a national security loophole under US trade law as he did over duties on steel and aluminium. The EU currently imposes 10pc duties on cars, mostly aimed at curbing a flood of imports from Asia.
This could turn into a double drama for Germany if Brexit talks break down at the same time, leading to trade barriers with Britain. The German car industry might then face a sudden squeeze in its two biggest global markets.
German industrialists increasingly suspect that Mr Trump is spoiling for a fight and intends to go ahead with 25pc tariffs on European car imports, exploiting a national security loophole under US trade law as he did over duties on steel and aluminium. The EU currently imposes 10pc duties on cars, mostly aimed at curbing a flood of imports from Asia.
This could turn into a double drama for Germany if Brexit talks break down at the same time, leading to trade barriers with Britain. The German car industry might then face a sudden squeeze in its two biggest global markets.
Only a 6 compared to the 8-11 which Tesco have been managing as Sainsbury don't do the myriad range of quality and quantity which Tesco manage.
But the addition of two new counties is very exciting.
There is a definite east / west split developing with only Herefordshire and Somerset as suppliers from western Britain from the four Scottish and twelve English counties.
German industrialists increasingly suspect that Mr Trump is spoiling for a fight and intends to go ahead with 25pc tariffs on European car imports, exploiting a national security loophole under US trade law as he did over duties on steel and aluminium. The EU currently imposes 10pc duties on cars, mostly aimed at curbing a flood of imports from Asia.
This could turn into a double drama for Germany if Brexit talks break down at the same time, leading to trade barriers with Britain. The German car industry might then face a sudden squeeze in its two biggest global markets.
German industrialists increasingly suspect that Mr Trump is spoiling for a fight and intends to go ahead with 25pc tariffs on European car imports, exploiting a national security loophole under US trade law as he did over duties on steel and aluminium. The EU currently imposes 10pc duties on cars, mostly aimed at curbing a flood of imports from Asia.
This could turn into a double drama for Germany if Brexit talks break down at the same time, leading to trade barriers with Britain. The German car industry might then face a sudden squeeze in its two biggest global markets.
Only a 6 compared to the 8-11 which Tesco have been managing as Sainsbury don't do the myriad range of quality and quantity which Tesco manage.
But the addition of two new counties is very exciting.
There is a definite east / west split developing with only Herefordshire and Somerset as suppliers from western Britain from the four Scottish and twelve English counties.
Only a 6 compared to the 8-11 which Tesco have been managing as Sainsbury don't do the myriad range of quality and quantity which Tesco manage.
But the addition of two new counties is very exciting.
There is a definite east / west split developing with only Herefordshire and Somerset as suppliers from western Britain from the four Scottish and twelve English counties.
These updates are one of the charming things about PB. Please continue
I did repeatedly point out to the ra-ra boys that the rise in Sterling during the winter (together with the slowdown in the EuroZone) was not good news.
I suppose a silver lining is that it has shown that the BoE didn't have a clue as to the underlying strength of the economy with its eagerness to raise interest rates.
With the employment data tomorrow one thing I'll be looking out for is to see if the retail apocalypse has had an impact on the number of redunancies.
For the debates tomorrow and on Wednesday, will the amendments be voted en bloc at the very end? Or will each be voted on after it has been debated, so being spread across the 2 days?
For the debates tomorrow and on Wednesday, will the amendments be voted en bloc at the very end? Or will each be voted on after it has been debated, so being spread across the 2 days?
Did we miss Arron Banks’ select committee appearance? When is/was that?
Only a 6 compared to the 8-11 which Tesco have been managing as Sainsbury don't do the myriad range of quality and quantity which Tesco manage.
But the addition of two new counties is very exciting.
There is a definite east / west split developing with only Herefordshire and Somerset as suppliers from western Britain from the four Scottish and twelve English counties.
These updates are one of the charming things about PB. Please continue
PB is great because of the wide range of oddball knowledge and interests represented here.
Only a 6 compared to the 8-11 which Tesco have been managing as Sainsbury don't do the myriad range of quality and quantity which Tesco manage.
But the addition of two new counties is very exciting.
There is a definite east / west split developing with only Herefordshire and Somerset as suppliers from western Britain from the four Scottish and twelve English counties.
I have a perhaps-stupid question: how accurate is the labelling? ISTR there was a little issue recently with labelling of products; with imaginary farms designed to lure customers. By law, how accurate do such labels have to be? For example, if they're labelled 'Fife' and they were actually grown in Norfolk?
Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
I remember predicting that.
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.
Hoist by your own petard.
pedant mode Hoist with your own petar' / pedant mode
I know you're such a stickler for accuracy.....
Petard is quite correct.
Indeed. To be hoist be one's own petard.
Carlotta is referring to Shakespeare’s original wording, which is presumed to be a lavatorial joke by the Bard.
If so, she might have made the effort to get the quote right.
I did. TR got it wrong.
My other pet hate is 'Methinks the lady doth protest too much'....
The quote is “hoist with his own petar’”, so no ... if it's even possible to be pedantic about Shakespearean spelling, given the considerable variation between texts. TR wasn’t quoting - he was using a perfectly acceptable common usage, with the correct spelling of the word petard.
Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
I remember predicting that.
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.
Hoist by your own petard.
pedant mode Hoist with your own petar' / pedant mode
I know you're such a stickler for accuracy.....
Petard is quite correct.
Indeed. To be hoist be one's own petard.
Carlotta is referring to Shakespeare’s original wording, which is presumed to be a lavatorial joke by the Bard.
If so, she might have made the effort to get the quote right.
I did. TR got it wrong.
My other pet hate is 'Methinks the lady doth protest too much'....
The quote is “hoist with his own petar’”, so no ... if it's even possible to be pedantic about Shakespearean spelling, given the considerable variation between texts. TR wasn’t quoting - he was using a perfectly acceptable common usage, with the correct spelling of the word petard.
German industrialists increasingly suspect that Mr Trump is spoiling for a fight and intends to go ahead with 25pc tariffs on European car imports, exploiting a national security loophole under US trade law as he did over duties on steel and aluminium. The EU currently imposes 10pc duties on cars, mostly aimed at curbing a flood of imports from Asia.
This could turn into a double drama for Germany if Brexit talks break down at the same time, leading to trade barriers with Britain. The German car industry might then face a sudden squeeze in its two biggest global markets.
Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
I remember predicting that.
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.
Hoist by your own petard.
pedant mode Hoist with your own petar' / pedant mode
I know you're such a stickler for accuracy.....
Petard is quite correct.
Indeed. To be hoist be one's own petard.
Carlotta is referring to Shakespeare’s original wording, which is presumed to be a lavatorial joke by the Bard.
If so, she might have made the effort to get the quote right.
I did. TR got it wrong.
My other pet hate is 'Methinks the lady doth protest too much'....
The quote is “hoist with his own petar’”, so no ... if it's even possible to be pedantic about Shakespearean spelling, given the considerable variation between texts. TR wasn’t quoting - he was using a perfectly acceptable common usage, with the correct spelling of the word petard.
Absolutely massive American Supreme Court decision with regards to voter registration.
To follow on from the laughably crazy Shelby County decision this latest one will see a mass purge of voter rolls across the country.
Will have big effect on the mid terms. I hadn't even been considering it as I thought it would be done and dusted.
I don't think the decision will have much impact at all. It removes from the rolls those who have failed to vote in two Federal elections and not responded to a confirmation notice or updated their registration status. If they reregister problem solved and if they fail to vote normally the odds are they won't vote in the midterms anyway
Just realised Brexit is likely to dominate British political debate for the next three-to-five years. Maybe ten years.
Oh god.
I remember predicting that.
I might have to emigrate until it is over. It's just so relentless and repetitive.
Hoist by your own petard.
pedant mode Hoist with your own petar' / pedant mode
I know you're such a stickler for accuracy.....
Petard is quite correct.
Indeed. To be hoist be one's own petard.
Carlotta is referring to Shakespeare’s original wording, which is presumed to be a lavatorial joke by the Bard.
If so, she might have made the effort to get the quote right.
I did. TR got it wrong.
My other pet hate is 'Methinks the lady doth protest too much'....
The quote is “hoist with his own petar’”, so no ... if it's even possible to be pedantic about Shakespearean spelling, given the considerable variation between texts. TR wasn’t quoting - he was using a perfectly acceptable common usage, with the correct spelling of the word petard.
Looks like the suburban middle class ie whites with college degrees and Democratic women, namely the Hillary coalition, are most motivated to vote in the midterms and get revenge for November 2016.
Minorities and Trump voters ie whites without college degrees less bothered and Trump voters in particular less likely to turnout for establishment GOP candidates than they were for Trump.
Arron Banks says he briefed the CIA in London about his meetings with the Russian ambassador. Did he tell any other country or is that the end of the list?
Perhaps he reported back to the Russian ambassador on his meeting with the CIA? His business activities make clear that he knows the value of information.
Meanwhile the overgrown undergraduate Cummings is already kooking out, to judge from his blog post today. Will he quote Sun Tzu to the Serjeant at Arms?
Absolutely massive American Supreme Court decision with regards to voter registration.
To follow on from the laughably crazy Shelby County decision this latest one will see a mass purge of voter rolls across the country.
Will have big effect on the mid terms. I hadn't even been considering it as I thought it would be done and dusted.
I don't think the decision will have much impact at all. It removes from the rolls those who have failed to vote in two Federal elections and not responded to a confirmation notice or updated their registration status. If they reregister problem solved and if they fail to vote normally the odds are they won't vote in the midterms anyway
This is a flag to other states to keep pushing their voter purge nonsense.
The UK should respond to that in the terms of Arkell v Pressdram
Such a transfer of sovereignty cannot be compatible with the GFA.
One interesting idea was to have the whole of the UK join the EEA and then the British government pass a statute that only NI was “activated” or subject to its terms.
Only a 6 compared to the 8-11 which Tesco have been managing as Sainsbury don't do the myriad range of quality and quantity which Tesco manage.
But the addition of two new counties is very exciting.
There is a definite east / west split developing with only Herefordshire and Somerset as suppliers from western Britain from the four Scottish and twelve English counties.
I have a perhaps-stupid question: how accurate is the labelling? ISTR there was a little issue recently with labelling of products; with imaginary farms designed to lure customers. By law, how accurate do such labels have to be? For example, if they're labelled 'Fife' and they were actually grown in Norfolk?
I suspect that technology is so advanced now that the labels are pretty accurate but I'd expect a few mistakes. What the tolerance level allowed is I don't know.
I think this was the marketing issue which caused problems over fake farm names:
For the debates tomorrow and on Wednesday, will the amendments be voted en bloc at the very end? Or will each be voted on after it has been debated, so being spread across the 2 days?
Did we miss Arron Banks’ select committee appearance? When is/was that?
The Committee is expected to ask Mr Banks and Mr Wigmore about the relationship between Leave.EU and Cambridge Analytica, as well as the use of data by Leave.EU and other bodies, such as GoSkippy Insurance and Eldon Insurance.
The Committee continues to investigate data sharing and misuse around Facebook, Cambridge Analytica and other connected companies, as part of its wider inquiry into Fake News."
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I guess some people never learn.
German industrialists increasingly suspect that Mr Trump is spoiling for a fight and intends to go ahead with 25pc tariffs on European car imports, exploiting a national security loophole under US trade law as he did over duties on steel and aluminium. The EU currently imposes 10pc duties on cars, mostly aimed at curbing a flood of imports from Asia.
This could turn into a double drama for Germany if Brexit talks break down at the same time, leading to trade barriers with Britain. The German car industry might then face a sudden squeeze in its two biggest global markets.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/06/11/german-car-industry-fears-double-shock-trump-tariffs-brexit/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget
LibDems 1/2
Tories 6/4
The opposite of the figures in the header. The PoliticalBetting effect!
Telegraph
Daily Mail
Sun
Daily Express
Guardian:
https://twitter.com/GdnPolitics/status/1006243143648358400
Canada: US$43.8 billion (up 0.1% from 2013)
Japan: $40.7 billion (up 4.9%)
Mexico: $30.6 billion (up 49.4%)
Germany: $20.8 billion (down -19.8%)
South Korea: $16.1 billion (up 29.1%)
United Kingdom: $8.8 billion (up 71%)
Italy: $5.1 billion (up 221.1%)
Sweden: $2.2 billion (up 203.3%)
Slovakia: $2 billion (up 123.3%)
China: $1.8 billion (up 1,759%)
Hungary: $1.2 billion (up 202.7%)
Finland: $1.2 billion (up 11,883%)
South Africa: $1.1 billion (down -50.4%)
Turkey: $911.8 million (up 666.5%)
Spain: $816.9 million (up 4,572%)
But its nothing like what's on offer at the moment.
And unlike many of those countries the US has a goods surplus with us - how brave is Trump feeling?
Tories are more likely to turnout, the rabble of feuding populists will fight over scraps, and in inner city seats Tories don't do Tactical Voting.
I reckon: Lab 55%, Tories 21%, LD 17%, Others 7%.
For Britain to beat UKIP at 5/2 as well.
Last place: The Radical Party.
Based on my own guesswork in the garden.
I haven't been.
But do not totally despair for here is today's Sainsbury Strawberry score.
Angus
Fife
Perthshire
Yorkshire
Staffordshire
Norfolk
Only a 6 compared to the 8-11 which Tesco have been managing as Sainsbury don't do the myriad range of quality and quantity which Tesco manage.
But the addition of two new counties is very exciting.
There is a definite east / west split developing with only Herefordshire and Somerset as suppliers from western Britain from the four Scottish and twelve English counties.
Does Trump want to start a trade war with a country he has a goods surplus with?
To follow on from the laughably crazy Shelby County decision this latest one will see a mass purge of voter rolls across the country.
Will have big effect on the mid terms. I hadn't even been considering it as I thought it would be done and dusted.
https://twitter.com/CarrieNBCNews/status/1006244228383563776?s=20
Outside of that context, petard is the correct usage.
I did repeatedly point out to the ra-ra boys that the rise in Sterling during the winter (together with the slowdown in the EuroZone) was not good news.
I suppose a silver lining is that it has shown that the BoE didn't have a clue as to the underlying strength of the economy with its eagerness to raise interest rates.
With the employment data tomorrow one thing I'll be looking out for is to see if the retail apocalypse has had an impact on the number of redunancies.
For the debates tomorrow and on Wednesday, will the amendments be voted en bloc at the very end? Or will each be voted on after it has been debated, so being spread across the 2 days?
My other pet hate is 'Methinks the lady doth protest too much'....
PB is great because of the wide range of oddball knowledge and interests represented here.
(I'm not doubting your anecdata.)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/tesco-and-other-supermarkets-using-fake-farm-brands-spark-complaint-from-nfu-a7144551.html
https://twitter.com/adamfleming/status/1006185942179295233
More than 54% of all the votes cast
More Councillors than all other Parties combined.
A forecast that Labour become biggest Party at a GE
Whats not to like
TR wasn’t quoting - he was using a perfectly acceptable common usage, with the correct spelling of the word petard.
If you’re going to be a pedant, try harder.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/husted-v-randolph-institute-is-a-victory-for-trumps-department-of-justice.html
Minorities and Trump voters ie whites without college degrees less bothered and Trump voters in particular less likely to turnout for establishment GOP candidates than they were for Trump.
Perhaps he reported back to the Russian ambassador on his meeting with the CIA? His business activities make clear that he knows the value of information.
Meanwhile the overgrown undergraduate Cummings is already kooking out, to judge from his blog post today. Will he quote Sun Tzu to the Serjeant at Arms?
Just had some very good Herefordshire strawberries from Tescos.
Not without complications, obvs.
NEW THREAD
I suspect that technology is so advanced now that the labels are pretty accurate but I'd expect a few mistakes. What the tolerance level allowed is I don't know.
I think this was the marketing issue which caused problems over fake farm names:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35889282
"Focus of the session
The Committee is expected to ask Mr Banks and Mr Wigmore about the relationship between Leave.EU and Cambridge Analytica, as well as the use of data by Leave.EU and other bodies, such as GoSkippy Insurance and Eldon Insurance.
The Committee continues to investigate data sharing and misuse around Facebook, Cambridge Analytica and other connected companies, as part of its wider inquiry into Fake News."